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Title: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 10:17 AM
i'm looking into this as i have to find work anyway  :)

can anyone give me an idea of what steps to take?

say a massive warehoise in harlow is the venue.what next?
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 10:18 AM
me and my mate craig(maximus) willl be looking at it
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: JT71 on December 04, 2008, 10:20 AM
see the thread about "owning your own ramp"

twobobrob is the man.

are you getting bills ramp? cos I might have a location for it.

Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: evamedia on December 04, 2008, 10:21 AM
insurance if it's gonna be public, I hope not, but that's probably where it will end as well
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 10:22 AM
been chatting to twobob.
i'm talking about a corby sized place,public etc....
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 10:23 AM
as i am involved in a mtb park(although private) i have experience with insurance.will look to get sponsers/set up as a charity
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: billstup on December 04, 2008, 10:43 AM
Contact the lottery Tony, thats where Corby gets a lot of it`s money from  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jstring on December 04, 2008, 12:36 PM
You might be able to get funding from the landfill tax credits scheme.  I work for big waste management firm (Biffa) and Biffaward (our charity bit) fund quite a lot of BMX and skate facilities, including the new skatepark in Saffron Walden (Nothing to do with me   ;) )  You can apply to Biffaward for up to £50,000 (for set up capital - not running costs) if you are within 10 miles of a Biffa landfill, which Harlow probably is (Westmill landfill in Ware).  Even if you are not near a Biffa landfill the chances are that you will near one run by someone and most the big companies run similar schemes (Veolia, WRG, Shanks).  The Biffaward website has lots of extra info on it.  The site address is: http://www.biffaward.org/about/coverview
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: maximus on December 04, 2008, 12:52 PM
Cheers mate this is what we are after.
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 01:17 PM
lottery funding is a good idea.
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: HARORIDER on December 04, 2008, 03:45 PM
hasn't harlow just got a concrete park?
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 03:51 PM
yeah
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: JT71 on December 04, 2008, 03:54 PM
but indoor wood is nicer right? got both me batteries for me drill on charge Tony...when do we start?

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 03:56 PM
im talking about a masssive indoor park/training facility ressie ramps etc...indoor track
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: diesel on December 04, 2008, 04:03 PM
any plans on some shore in there?
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 04:05 PM
maybe or just keep herts seperate  :)
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: Bushwacked on December 04, 2008, 04:26 PM
As I think twobobrob said a few days ago most skateparks don't make money these days as a standalone...

I'd been thinking about this as I've always wanted to do something which benefits the community..

Looking at the american skateparks - lot of them offer so much more than just a skate park. Even here we are seeing skateparks evolving... in fact any type of leisure facility evolving - look at Xscape in Castleford - all sorts of stuff there...

As its the parents / older generation who have the cash - get these guys in and you're laughing.

You could include...

Skatepark
4x track (I know there are some indoor ones in the UK)
Creche facilities
Climbing wall
Jungle gym / soft play centre
Internet
riding lessons / tuition
Cafe / bar / restuarant - (how much have me and my mates wanted to go somewhere half decent, let the kids go mental and have a chin wag and perhaps a beer / ride)
Even a beauty salon for the wives... !

Sort of a high adrenaline sports / recreation centre.


I know corby has some mentally big plans but don't see why this couldn't work elsewhere (nearer Cheltenham)

Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 04:31 PM
lifestyle coffee/bar etc...fact
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: JT71 on December 04, 2008, 04:32 PM
shop/repairs

big screen videos

air con

gaybar
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 04:34 PM
porn playing on big screens everywhere!
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: JT71 on December 04, 2008, 04:35 PM
indian restaurant next door?

cobra on tap?

Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 04:36 PM
curry house in-house!
and bangla on ice 24/7(free to the owners)
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: maximus on December 04, 2008, 06:35 PM
when do we open!
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: jedi on December 04, 2008, 10:03 PM
i just got back from testing the curry and bangla......it does rock!
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: Gary72 on December 04, 2008, 10:24 PM
The vans skatepark in Florida, has a retail outlet attached, or could be the otherway round, the park is attached to the retail outlet, hire of equipment. Has an overhead walkway with tables for grown-up adults to have lattes and read the paper. Can you build it at Lakeside, the old Courts building has been empty for ages. Isn't Unit23 or some other park in Scotland in a shopping mall?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0403-2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0402-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0401-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0400-1.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0399-2.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/m219/cazbo71/PICT0398-1.jpg)
Some pics of VANS from the walkway, there is also a small outdoor section, you can see the sunshine to the left of the bowl. Never got to ride the place though.

Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: sweetbeats on December 04, 2008, 10:46 PM
I thought that was adam01's living room on the farm in staffs :idiot2:
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: maximus on December 04, 2008, 10:47 PM
i think the rent at lakeside would be a little expensive for us!
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: Bushwacked on December 04, 2008, 11:13 PM
Pure genius putting it in a shopping centre!!!!


Drop the kids off (and their dads) while the mothers go shopping for the day!!!!


Now I can see that would take off!!!


 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: TwoBobRob on December 04, 2008, 11:35 PM
For a park on this scale, you must employ a professional fundraiser.  You're looking at hundreds of thousands of pounds.

And a bloody big building......  ;)
 
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: Bettyswallocks on December 05, 2008, 07:04 AM
Isn't Unit23 or some other park in Scotland in a shopping mall?


That'll be transgression in Edinburgh...

http://www.transgressionpark.co.uk/
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: JT71 on December 05, 2008, 08:22 AM
For a park on this scale, you must employ a professional fundraiser.  You're looking at hundreds of thousands of pounds.

And a bloody big building......  ;)
 

and a professional ramp builder.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: rosscoe on December 06, 2008, 06:53 PM
it sounds defeatest, but you may just be throwing money away. Derby storm cost iro £30k per year to insure alone.

If you run it as a charity or community facility you will get more support. Try it as a business and you may struggle

good luck matey
Title: Re: starting an indoor skatepark
Post by: Nana on December 06, 2008, 07:04 PM
Isn't Unit23 or some other park in Scotland in a shopping mall?


That'll be transgression in Edinburgh...

http://www.transgressionpark.co.uk/


The guy that owns unit23 owns these units paid for by a haulage business he owns :)

I looked into this a few years ago and your looking at a large factory unit that the rent and rates will kill you on  :)

You have a mountain to climb and even if you get the premises its gonna take a lot of business savy to get enough revenue to keep it going.

Sorry to sound negative but i did seriously go about visiting premises extra years ago looking into this as glasgows only indoor is in dumbarton which aint exactly easily acessible its miles away lol and at the time they never had their bowl and ramps were a bit kack etc

but on a positive note ! during this resession there is gonna be a lot of premises going cheap.
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