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Title: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 08:29 AM
Ok,  If i want to go racing again,  can I use an old school bike ?  Would it pass the scrutineering,  whats the deal with clips ? are caliper brakes ok,   what do I need to know ????

Any advice needed.


+ How long does it take to get round a track thses days, need to check I can pedal flat out for long enough ?  LOL

Let me know,  I think i am ready to return.  I am even considering getting one of my JMCs out of the  show room, if its ok to ride an old school ride in a non old school race ?

I know full face helmets are advisable,  but if i want to go for a pracitice would i be alowed on with the dirt jumping helmet i own.  I dont want to buy a full face, do one lap and decide its not for me ?

I thopught I would do a practice lap on the day of the race, and if i felt up for it buy a full fac e on the day, if there are places at the meetings selling stuff like their used to be ????
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: kusam on January 31, 2006, 08:36 AM
Yay!  Go for it Jon0.  Have given this some serous thought myself over the last few months but again would be confused what to race. 

As for how long round a track....get down to your nearest one and try it  ;D  I have only been round my old local track which is hardly new school, but also been to Coppull and legs are ready for giving up halfway round and by the end I need oxygen but...we all know it gets easier the more you do it!

As for helmets.....don't quote me but am sure you don't need a full face, although advisable.  Not sure if they still do scrutineering....I heard you can race on whatever.  ???
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Mattdub on January 31, 2006, 08:51 AM
Jon ,

The bike is fine , tracks are more aggresive now with bigger jumps etc .

You might have a problem with practising on a Race day with a Pisspot , a normal practise day (dependant on the club) would probably be ok .

Don't use one of your valuable builds because the tracks are more aggressive therefore a greater chance of a broken bike .

A newschool bike need not cost a fortune , I've got a Staats Pro XXL frame you could have for £100 . Get stuff like GT Profiles etc .

Matt
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 09:53 AM
Sam,  take the plunge, and have a go, I think i am going to, It all depends if the personi have been speaking with goes for it as he is going to drive,  That will be all the motivation i need !

Thanks Matt, I have a JMC Shadow that I would be happy to race on, It is probably my least valuable bike as the intergrated seatpost clamp must have broken at some point and it had the seatmast shortened to accomodate a normal seat clamp.

It has late 80;s GT profiles on already, Uni seat has now gone, it has a kashimax and a JMC post, and JMC bars, but I recon with the 1.5 araya's and sunshine sealed hubs, could be great for racing on?

Not to worried about the big jumps,  If I aint up to them, Ill ride them to start with, its been 20+ years after all !!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v661/JON016847/Shadow11.jpg)
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jT Racing on January 31, 2006, 10:17 AM
if i was you jon, i would get one of them plates with the u-brake mounts and use a u-brake. And put some 10 quid modern tioga comp tyres on it. Oh and a standard chain. remember it's going to get worn/recked like it or not! even if you don't go base over apex somebody usually falls off in your path. Well they always did BITD.
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Mattdub on January 31, 2006, 10:33 AM
Jon ,

That looks nice just put NS pedals & tyres (as townshend) on it .

Matt
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 10:48 AM
I have some old comp three copies I can put on,  what pedals do i need?   are there regulations about the pedal types or is it just advice based on not spoiling the os pedals ??

I am not bothered about the brakes  :LolLolLolLol:, I intend to be in the lead with no trouble infront of me, and no reaosn to slow down,  surely it will be just like this again on my first go - LOL    :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v661/JON016847/bmx7.jpg)

Thanks guys -  Jon W
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Jazzchimp on January 31, 2006, 10:59 AM
Just make sure you guys are at the next rad meet with your OS bike (think it might be Sheffield again) Grab a helmet, gloves and expect a really great time. See ya there!!!

Ok riders... set em up...
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: kusam on January 31, 2006, 11:00 AM
jon...you going sheffield?
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 11:04 AM
Not sure, when is Shefield ???

I am hoping to go to the winter regional in Mansfied on the 12th Feb !!!

Not sure if I should go in the 17+   or 30+   hmmmmmmmmmmm

Considering I have not been on a track for 21 years, I think i must be mad !!!!

Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Jazzchimp on January 31, 2006, 11:23 AM
Don't matter Jon either way you'll be knackered by the first turn!!

I hadn't been on a track for 20 years either but it soon comes back to you
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 11:28 AM
Don't matter Jon either way you'll be knackered by the first turn!!

I hadn't been on a track for 20 years either but it soon comes back to you


I did 30 seconds flat out on the exercise bike in the gym yesterday,  nearly had a heart attack.   (How long does a race last on average these days?)

Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Jazzchimp on January 31, 2006, 11:33 AM
I don't think I've ever got to the end so far. Sometimes it's easier to get off at berm 2 and get a coffee
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 11:39 AM
LOL-   I'll meet you at corner one for a coffee and an ambulance - LOL
Title: Re: Seriouosly thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Mattdub on January 31, 2006, 11:44 AM
I'll join you 2 at the corner , mines a capuccino with 2 sugars (and oxygen !)  :2funny:

Jon , new DX's are ok as are DMR V12's as NS pedals go.
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: oldmankev on January 31, 2006, 01:42 PM
Do it jon you wont regret it, i tried masters for a bit ( thats the 30+ 20" name) but felt
at my age the 24" was the way to go its also alot more competative, made some
great new mates as well, but remember when the gate drops the Bulls**t stops.
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: glov on January 31, 2006, 07:02 PM
jon best of luck you gotta beat me first LOL

good luck jamie :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: billstup on January 31, 2006, 07:20 PM
Best thing you could do Jon is get some of this :

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v472/billstup/Pads.jpg)

You will fall off at some time, so its best to be prepared  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on January 31, 2006, 07:21 PM
Recon I could do with that gear,  surly after 20 years, it will be just like riding a bike !!  LOL

I feel pain ahead !!
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 31, 2006, 08:17 PM
Jon, if yyou go to Sheffield you have to watch out for Jazzchimp rolling around on the floor in the first turn,I nearly ran over him, silly fecker :LolLolLolLol:
seriously tho, give it a go, where abouts are you? we can point you in the direction of the nearest track so you can have a play in private first
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: silentpartner on January 31, 2006, 08:40 PM
jono, you'll like mansfeild' the start hill's so steep you wont have to pedal the first bit  ;D ;D ;D. there should be a few rad boys there all being well. regards helmets, full face is now the norm, but helmet and chin strap as BITD are allowed. listen to bill about pads, it pays to protect. practise your speed jumps, cause these big jumps can put alot of stress on ya bike, unless ya super smooth. practise will start around 10 onwards, registration closes around twelve, so you'll have a couple of hours to practise. i'll try and remember to bring a full face helmet, for ya to borrow if you want. hope to see ya there, make sure to wear a red carnation so i know who you are.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: birdieman on January 31, 2006, 08:59 PM
Yeh that Jazzchimp, always sandbagging on the track
 He's like the little old lady with the trolley in the supermarket, you just can't get passed her
 :2funny:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 31, 2006, 09:01 PM
Jon, I have my pass stamped so I will be at Mansfield too,
I will have my PK20 and GT cruiser with me if you wanna have a blast on em?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jonpaul11 on January 31, 2006, 09:43 PM
what's the age groups now for a 20" ride?

I'm 35 next birthday, and to be honest would love to get around a track again...
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Dingobmxer on January 31, 2006, 09:49 PM
Masters is 30+ I think?
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on February 01, 2006, 08:49 AM
Hay thanks all for your advice,   !  I am really up for this,    not vey fit but it should be a great laugh.

Silantpartner, if you do have a spare full face helmet for me to borrow that would be cool,   much appreciated, !!   - I will contact you before the event if I am not able to purchase on in time, and arrange to meet you there !!


 As for practicing, this will be the first oppotunity to get to a track b4 the event so my practice will probably determine if i actually race, I may feel more practice is in order b4 i take  part in  a race, but I hope that is not then case.   

As for practicing speed jumps I probably wont be that fast for it to matter - LOL

Hope to see all you rad'ers there  - Dingo, thanks for the offer of the go on your bikes,  always happy to try out what the competition have to offer.  - I am in Birmingham  btw


Jon W
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: Jazzchimp on February 01, 2006, 09:30 AM
Do you lot think I can't hear you?? :knuppel2: :knuppel2:

Billstup, love the hardwear!! :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: frdavid on February 01, 2006, 07:16 PM
heyyyy Jon!!

i'm happy to read that you will race again  :)

you know when i decided to ride again after 18 years retired, first i took my laser lite, i changed the seat tube for a short straight, used ame round grips, old dx pedals, and new tyres, but kept all the other parts, but after few hours of practise it was definitly a bad solution.  I think the os bikes are too high and difficult to control on the new tracks, i tried a 2005 ripper and understood that in one second lol..
and finally i bought a 24", because better for my old body, now i train 1 afternoon per week, not easy because  everything has changed , you will see that you won't take the same risks than before lol....
everyday i go to the training center to improve my muscles and use the training bike for the heart,

i think if you didn't ride for a long time you need to take it seriously..

and i bought all the pads i could find, i feel really better with that.  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on February 01, 2006, 07:33 PM
I hear you bro,  My first outing will be very tame and more to find out what the track islike, if i think its too much after practice I am not race on day one, but i hope to, I was very technical bitd,  I had to be to make up for the fact i was quite small in amy age, I am sure come of those skills will come back sooner rather than later, I always wished the tracks had more to offer bitd, now maybe my wish has come tru,. just 20 years too late !!

I'll keep you posted on how i get on

Jon W
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: frdavid on February 01, 2006, 08:45 PM
eh eh i hope the best for you Jon, and maybe in future i will come on an english race or you in France  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: sam hudson on February 01, 2006, 11:11 PM
Matey,i'm with FRDAVID.
I've been getting back into my bmx on my local cack track and it nearly kills me.I am training a bit now before i even consider racing...unless you are super fit ,it will feel like your heart is trying to 'ALIEN' out of your chest.Also i love OS rides but im a new schooler if im on those evil new tracks...i would cry like a girl if i fell off or broke my os rides.
I dont seriously think i could go full pelt around a new track,they are about twice as long as i remember the os tracks being..and the new ones have SERIOUS jumps.
Go for a good practise before you commit...i'm not going anywhere near a race until i can make a respectable lap.(ie actually finish the race :o)
Good luck mate
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: FIL S on February 02, 2006, 01:37 AM
Hey Sam,

             When are you up for a visit to Coppull?  After going to Bones last week its got my confidence up and i feel like i can tackle a few of the smaller jumps at the track. I'm hoping to make it to Coppll this coming Saturday afternoon, weather permitting.


                                                    Phil.
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on February 02, 2006, 08:15 AM
eh eh i hope the best for you Jon, and maybe in future i will come on an english race or you in France  :daumenhoch:

That would be cool !!   I think i need to see how race one goes beofre going international LOL -

Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: AJWD on February 02, 2006, 09:39 AM
Which bike will you use though Jonny Boy?
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: jon016847 on February 02, 2006, 09:58 AM
I am thinking of using my RED JMC shadow frame and forks,  with the following bits

Late 80's GT Profile cranks
Redline 43 chainwheel
Elina UL intergrated seat / post - set low in frame
Powerlite powerbend bars
Araya 1.5 aeros - sunshine hubs
etc

But not 100 % sure yet !

Maybe the old Ammaco,  Maybe the old Patterson ?


Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: sam hudson on February 03, 2006, 12:02 AM
Quote
When are you up for a visit to Coppull?

You've got mail matey

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Seriously thinking of racing again - Advice needed
Post by: mcam on February 04, 2006, 10:38 AM
>I don't think I've ever got to the end so far. Sometimes it's easier to get off at berm 2 and get a coffee

I've just been reading this thread, and you guys crack me up. Damn funny!

Really interesting, as I have been considering the same thing (a return to racing). But I have told no-one close to me. I need to lose weight, and get into shape, and get myself a newschool ride. I couldn't bring myself to take either one of my GT cruisers out on the track. I've set myself a goal, that if I can lose the weight, and get into shape, I will reward myself with a newschool ride, and go racing.

Its weird, there is something still inside burning to get on that gate again. Or maybe thats just heartburn :)

Let us know how you get on Jono.... I'm reading this thread with interest :)
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