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Title: Retro profile cranks
Post by: clonerz on December 24, 2008, 06:24 PM
I just recieved these cranks today, anyone else got a set of these box crank reproductions yet? I am  wondering what you think of yours, i'll not post comments just yet, but will wait to see what you lot thought of them. Im pretty sure a few of you on here ordered them. Comments please!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: harris on December 24, 2008, 06:27 PM
 afew negative reports so far i believe in the chrome mainly and general finish ,not upto par.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: snav69 on December 24, 2008, 06:31 PM
Aint ordered any myself but saw the ones Alan has on display at the shop and they looked amazing , the chrome was outstanding  8) nothing like the ones i have seen posted on here and in the states  :police:

 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on December 26, 2008, 02:27 AM
Apparently mine left the USPS Florida depot on 23rd December.  No doubt I will have to phone Parcelforce to see where the cranks are.  The last item I had delivered by USPS recently (a  5-stud NOS Mongoose helmet peak, which ended up costing £100!!!) was a feckin nightmare. The USPS website said they had tried delivering it 3 weeks previous, which was total crap. Parcelforce still had it awaiting payment of import tax and nobody had notified me.  Wonder what I'll get stung for in import taxes for these  >:(  I haven't ridden oldschool since MK08 cos I've been waiting for these bloody cranks!!  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: torkertony on December 26, 2008, 09:11 AM
Mine are spot on mate, took ages to arrive but the chrome is great - no complaints.  No import tax either!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 27, 2008, 10:18 AM
I just fitted a set for someone and I have to say they look they were welded by a 5 year old, polished prior to chroming by a chimp and then chromed by someone still pissed from a night out, fookin dire. I will add that the bike they were fitted to sits next to 2 bikes wearing the origonal box cranks and they bear little resembelence. very, very fookin shabby.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: hunterdubber on December 27, 2008, 10:30 AM
I just fitted a set for someone and I have to say they look they were welded by a 5 year old, polished prior to chroming by a chimp and then chromed by someone still pissed from a night out, fookin dire. I will add that the bike they were fitted to sits next to 2 bikes wearing the origonal box cranks and they bear little resembelence. very, very fookin shabby.


Is that 3 thumbs up then since you're from Keighley  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: jT Racing on December 27, 2008, 11:38 AM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/DSC05924.jpg)

the welding on this pic looks dire.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 27, 2008, 02:09 PM
That pic shows the welding quite well, I dont think profile made em personally, if they did, then they have no quality control whatsoever anymore, something I would not have said previously. The spider that comes with em is good, but the rest takes the piss, in a very large way.


Very shite
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: ron burgundy on December 27, 2008, 04:15 PM
How does the the quality stand up when they are side by side with the standard Profile racing cranks?.. are now shite as well?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: WARDY on December 27, 2008, 04:24 PM
when I saw the first piccy of em before they went on sale thought the welds looked shocking , peeps were worried that these re issues ed take it away from the old originals , well its safe to say they aint , dont come no where near em imo
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: sweetbeats on December 27, 2008, 04:42 PM
Seen loads of shocking pics of the profile repops,I would just search out some proper ones least you know what your getting i.e good old skool workmanship and a tried and tested product that has stood the test of time..alternatively pay through the nose and get some badly chromed..slaver welded cranks.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 27, 2008, 05:24 PM
How does the the quality stand up when they are side by side with the standard Profile racing cranks?.. are now shite as well?
Normal "new school" profiles seem ok, that said I haven't seen any very recently produced ones. If I compare my 3 sets of profiles they aint that different, the quality is good, a million miles from the quality of the replops, which is what makes me think they farmed them out.....
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: hunterdubber on December 28, 2008, 11:59 AM
Well come on Clonerz you've got some feedback  as requested  ::)


What are yours like good batch or could've been better batch  ???


Either way they ain't cheap for repro  ,should be about  £50 dearer than twin pinch flights at the most IMO
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on December 28, 2008, 11:04 PM
I know that Profile are making these and not farming them out.  I fitted a set for a mate the other day and I would say that looked OK and fitted fine.  They are a repop of the real old style ones though and probably not the ones many of us had in the mid eighties.

Chroming was not bad, welding was not bad.  However if i was Profile I would have had their top welder do them and spend a bit more on the chroming to make them supermint which they aint.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on December 29, 2008, 09:39 AM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/cranks001.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/cranks002.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/p70/simonjturner/cranks004.jpg)

Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: WARDY on December 29, 2008, 09:48 AM
that first piccy the welds aint looking to clever , has anyone sent theirs back saying they aint happy with em ???
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: thecrooch on December 29, 2008, 10:20 AM
Who the hell fitted the Seat tube decals on that TA Repop???  very shoddy! (IMHO)

Ive got a set and I like em alot.  The chrome is good, although I have seen better (bullseye cranks) the welding on mine is perfect, overall Id give em two thumbs up.  Heres a pic of mine:
Please note I had greasy fingers here and hadnt wiped them clean yet after installing, the chrome is better than the pics show.  Pics arnt too good I know..

Pics here during the various installation stages:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05919.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05920.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05921.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05922.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05923.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05924.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/?action=view&current=DSC05925.jpg

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/skyway/DSC05975.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v512/cython3/bikes/skyway/DSC05996.jpg)

Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: dialledbikes on December 29, 2008, 02:03 PM
The official Profile response:

http://profileracing.com/news_full.php?id=792
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: WARDY on December 29, 2008, 02:11 PM
The official Profile response:

http://profileracing.com/news_full.php?id=792


don't think , as they say , a microscope to find faults , wish i'd have kept me nos gen 2 s :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: MartyC on December 30, 2008, 04:30 AM
The official Profile response:

http://profileracing.com/news_full.php?id=792

That's a bull response; there's no quality control evident in one of the production runs and frankly they should be ashamed of the product they sent out to pre-paid customers.  If I were Profile I'd be saying to send them back for a replacement set or a refund.  They may not be making money out of them (I doubt that though) but they are not winning new customers with them either.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: jT Racing on December 30, 2008, 11:15 AM
that weld on digglers pic is not how it should be done. that weld is only 'run in' and no rod has been added. this means that the welder has just used heat to fuse the 2 parts together and not actually welded the crank. When you tig weld corner to corner on up to 3mm thick stainless sheet steel(the most usual use of rodless tig welding) running in is a common process as it makes an even and neat joint that is strong enough to hold the structure. When welding studs, tubing and other structural joints this running in method is not suitable. The weld draws material from both the crank arm and the splined tube making them both weaker. On a weld like this the welder should have used a cro-mo steel rod to add material to make the bond. Very very shoddy and unsafe-ish/weak and should never have left the factory at profile done like this. they know it. As for the uneveness on the back of the arms. A good polisher(this is the name for a bloke in engineering firms who smoothes welds, grains stainless and re-finishes more or less all product) can easily make a joint look invisible. This kind of work is my trade so i know what i'm on about. They got the money first, and it shows. There may be some very good ones done by their better employees, but from the looks of things there is some polish part timer worker specials being made :-\
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: dialledbikes on December 30, 2008, 01:53 PM
I wonder what Profile had in mind when they re-issued these cranks?  That they'd be put on show bikes or would be ridden?

Have people who've bought them done so to ride or just for show bikes?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on December 30, 2008, 04:56 PM
there excusses sounds like they are saying  'like it or lump it'.... 'they aint gettin any better'....
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 03, 2009, 08:26 PM
Profiles BITD were never the best made cranks, welding nowhere near as neat as flights.  The ones that I fitted the other day were pretty sweet and certainly no worse than ones made in the eighties.

I think we are all obsessive on perfection now and forget how shite some of the stuff was that we rode.....The first ever S&M in the UK had a completely missing weld on one of the dropouts.....welder just forget! Still got ridden hard though (Glen Leyburn, Belfast, Jive5).
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 03, 2009, 08:59 PM
Mine have been with customs for a couple of days now - hoefully they'll get here Monday.

Been waiting bloddy long enough! I had the email with tracking details about 3 weeks ago!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on January 03, 2009, 09:38 PM
Mine have been with customs for a couple of days now - hoefully they'll get here Monday.

Been waiting bloddy long enough! I had the email with tracking details about 3 weeks ago!

Same here.  The message on the Parcelforce website says "Awaiting Customs Charges" Fookin deep joy  >:(  At least there's light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Mattdub on January 03, 2009, 10:45 PM
Why did Clonerz start this thread , anyone know ? .

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: jT Racing on January 03, 2009, 10:46 PM
lol. i'd still have a set though :-[
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: ColoredTuffs.com on January 05, 2009, 01:49 PM
Quote
Hope you dudes dont get stung by cun(t)stoms, I was lukcy enough to have mine delivered by the normal postie.  Although I did ask Ed to mark as low value.
I did declare them as "gifts" with a "value" of just less than 100 US dollars.  That should help.

 While I'm not happy with the overall quality control that Profile has, I think that most of all of the cranks that I have seen look great.  My biggest complaint that I have is that I expected a "show chrome" finish, which is a nickle /brass / chrome job which fills in all of the grinding marks on the steel, and does fill in some of the small pits that are left sometimes on the weld bead that is ground down on the back plate of the crank arms.  Profile, stating that they no longer use a triple-plating process due to EPA regulations here in the States, used a different method of chroming.  That method does not "fill in" the imperfections such as grind marks and such.

 Some of the cranks that I have seen have some "pin holes" on the backside edge of the crank arm.  I asked Profile about this, and this is how they explained it to me-
 The crank arms are made using 2 sheets of steel plate.  The first plate is bent into a "C" shape, and then the second flat plate is welded on the backside of the arm.  That weld bead is ground down, sometimes leaving little pin holes that are inside a weld bead.  Once that weld bead is ground down, it exposes that hole.  More grinding cannot be done to try to remove that hole as at that point, the weld would more than likely be grinded completely off.  Being every set is made by hand, you get slightly different results from arm to arm. 

 Profile made all of these in-house.  The same guy that welded these back in the day welded these as well (Profile states that fact, at least)

 In addition- to anybody that is still waiting on a set- hang in there.  it's on the way.  I just finished packing the last of the orders for these last night.
-Ed

Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 05, 2009, 03:40 PM
It'll be interesting to see what they're gonna charge me then; it's deffo waiting for a payment....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/customs.jpg't=1231172202)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 05, 2009, 03:43 PM
Mine have been with customs for a couple of days now - hoefully they'll get here Monday.

Been waiting bloddy long enough! I had the email with tracking details about 3 weeks ago!

Same here.  The message on the Parcelforce website says "Awaiting Customs Charges" Fookin deep joy  >:(  At least there's light at the end of the tunnel.

mine too Kenny  >:(

another £21 !!!  ::)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 03:51 PM
so whats the tatal price you have paid then, as alan said they were going to be 'about' £300... are they really £200 better than twin pinch flites?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: ColoredTuffs.com on January 05, 2009, 04:48 PM
When you go to parcel Force, tell them it's a Christmas present from a friend in the US.  It is marked off as a "gift".
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: moley on January 05, 2009, 04:58 PM
When you go to parcel Force, tell them it's a Christmas present from a friend in the US.  It is marked off as a "gift".

Trouble with that is.......................you have to pay to get them first and then try and get a refund afterwards!!  :(
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 05:12 PM
if anybody is not happy with theres, would you like to deal for these cranks?....



(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii194/quattro2008/oliverandspike216.jpg)


 ;)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: moley on January 05, 2009, 05:20 PM
What bike is that?  ???

I can't see it behind those big ass cranks!!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 05:25 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:

i know!!!  but they actually look allright in the flesh, its just that i want to make it look more retro, and i think these let down the side a bit...

thanks for the ramp off your twin bro'.... ;D
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: moley on January 05, 2009, 05:33 PM
...............thanks for the ramp off your twin bro'.... ;D

You cheeky feck!!

If you weren't built like a brick shithouse, I'd..................  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 05:38 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:

i nearly called him moley!!! ;D
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 05:43 PM
whay! yeh! alans has them in at £269, are they worth that?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 05, 2009, 05:46 PM
if anybody is not happy with theres, would you like to deal for these cranks?....



(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii194/quattro2008/oliverandspike216.jpg)


 ;)

What price would you sell em for out of curiosoty ???
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 05:55 PM
they are the for sale now!!!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: moley on January 05, 2009, 06:03 PM
i nearly called him moley!!! ;D

At least we know my mum wasn't seeing the milkman behind his back!!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: meticulous on January 05, 2009, 06:24 PM
i nearly called him moley!!! ;D

At least we know my mum wasn't seeing the milkman behind his back!!  :LolLolLolLol:

defo'... ;D
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 05, 2009, 07:15 PM
USPS Website says this:

Attempted Delivery Abroad, January 05, 2009, 7:21 am, GREAT BRITAIN
Out of Foreign Customs, January 03, 2009, 8:19 am, GREAT BRITAIN
Into Foreign Customs, January 01, 2009, 5:15 pm, GREAT BRITAIN
Arrived Abroad, December 22, 2008, 3:03 pm, GREAT BRITAIN
International Dispatch, December 18, 2008, 6:27 pm, ISC MIAMI FL (USPS)
Electronic Shipping Info Received, December 16, 2008

When I called Parcelforce they said there was a customs charge though ???
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 05, 2009, 07:17 PM
USPS Website says this:

Attempted Delivery Abroad, January 05, 2009, 7:21 am, GREAT BRITAIN
Out of Foreign Customs, January 03, 2009, 8:19 am, GREAT BRITAIN
Into Foreign Customs, January 01, 2009, 5:15 pm, GREAT BRITAIN
Arrived Abroad, December 22, 2008, 3:03 pm, GREAT BRITAIN
International Dispatch, December 18, 2008, 6:27 pm, ISC MIAMI FL (USPS)
Electronic Shipping Info Received, December 16, 2008

When I called Parcelforce they said there was a customs charge though ???

PARCELFORCE website tracking says this though:

Status: Held
   
Parcel tracks
   
Date Time Location Tracking Event
 
05-01-2009  07:21  North Essex Depot Awaiting payment of charges
04-01-2009  18:38  National Hub Sorted in hub
03-01-2009  08:19  International Hub En route to delivery depot
03-01-2009  07:25  International Hub RELEASED WITH CHARGES
01-01-2009  17:15  International Hub AWAITING CUSTOMS CHARGING
01-01-2009  17:15  International Hub AWAITING CUSTOMS CHARGES
22-12-2008  15:03  International Hub Arrived in destination country
18-12-2008  18:27  Delivery Agent - MIAMI Left origin country  
 
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 05, 2009, 07:19 PM
so whats the tatal price you have paid then, as alan said they were going to be 'about' £300... are they really £200 better than twin pinch flites?

mine work out at about £200, inc. delivery and £20 customs charge, i paid for them when the $ was 2:1 though  :angel:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 05, 2009, 07:51 PM
So now Alans would be cheaper than buying them from the USA even with full VAT and import duty charges?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: ColoredTuffs.com on January 05, 2009, 09:12 PM
269.00 GBP = 395.445 USD
United Kingdom Pounds    United States Dollars 
1 GBP = 1.47006 USD   1 USD = 0.680246 GBP


By my calculations, it's still cheaper getting them from my site at the moment.  I only have 180mm American and Euro BB's in stock now.

$284.99, plus $39.99 shipping is $324.98

324.98 USD = 221.159 GBP
United States Dollars    United Kingdom Pounds
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: thecrooch on January 05, 2009, 09:26 PM
at least you arent like paypal - gave me 1.41 this afternoon cheeky fookers...
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 05, 2009, 09:46 PM
And don't forget the import duty!!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 06, 2009, 03:38 PM
Thieving barstewards!

Got the following by email:


Thank you for your enquiry.

I am sorry that we have not delivered your parcel to you and I can appreciate how disappointing it can be when a parcel does not arrive as expected.  In this instance, we have not delivered your parcel because a Customs charges payment is required of £21.31 before it can be released for delivery.


Most annoying thing its supposed to be 48 hour delivery, but I don't even have the reference number to be able to pay it. By the time I get the letter it'll have been in the UK a week! Then they'll bloody deliver it in another 48 hrs. (If I'm lucky!)


Grrrrrr
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: moley on January 06, 2009, 03:44 PM
Rooonga!!  was that a ParcelForce email?

Parcel force always send a letter asking for the customs payment!!

They used to just turn up at your door and ask for money but not these days!!

If you then pay on-line then it gets delivered next day (I think)!!

But I bet it adds a few days waiting for the letter to get processed and delivered!!  :(



I forgot to add!!

If your customs charge is £21 then your be charged more than that!!

You'll get a handling charge on top if its Parcel Force!!  :(

£21 is still pretty cheap on something worth more than 200 dabs though!!  :)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 06, 2009, 05:45 PM
269.00 GBP = 395.445 USD
United Kingdom Pounds    United States Dollars 
1 GBP = 1.47006 USD   1 USD = 0.680246 GBP


By my calculations, it's still cheaper getting them from my site at the moment.  I only have 180mm American and Euro BB's in stock now.

$284.99, plus $39.99 shipping is $324.98

324.98 USD = 221.159 GBP
United States Dollars    United Kingdom Pounds


Plus import duty and VAT makes them £266 and if you get hit with the post office admin fee than they could be even more expensive than the UK SRP of £269.

Of course Ed, if you want to ship stuff without declaring the correct value then that is your perogative but it is against UK laws for the recipient not to pay duty and VAT on the true value, and that is thier risk.

I am a bicycle retailer (but I don't sell BMX stuff) and even though I respect the fact that you are just trying to make a living like the rest of us, shipping stuff with a lower value or as a gift to avoid or lower the duties isn't really fair against the retailers here in the UK who at the moment can probably be very competitive with US retailers because of the exchange rates.

However these cranks will also be subject to availability issues and you will no doubt have better inventory levels than UK retailers so I'm sure you'll do very well selling them to UK customers Ed as you have been involved with the project.

I don't want to open a whole can of worms here Ed, I know you are a well respected retailer but please also consider the Profile distributor here who has invested heavily in supporting the product with warranty and spares backup here, he has to make a margin to stay in business too.

It would also be nice to choose your cranks as a buyer, if i went into alans and was offered a set with the shockingly bad chrome, i'd ask to see or for him to get another set.

Just my 2p....
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on January 07, 2009, 01:17 AM
I paid my customs charge (£21.31) over the phone today (Tuesday) so I should get them on Wednesday.  I was probably one of the first from the UK to put a deposit down on these, so I think I paid under £160 including postage and customs charges.  A lot cheaper than they would cost now.  In saying that, I could have got twin pinch Redlines for half the price but as it's for a replica it had to be the Profiles.  Ah well, nearly there.  I will post pics as soon as I have them fitted to the 'Goose.  I hope they're good ones.  I'm really looking forward to getting back on the 'Goose again  :smitten:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: diesel on January 07, 2009, 08:14 AM
Don't forget that unless you pay the import duty for these within 7 working days they 'often' (not always) send them back to the original sender.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 08, 2009, 09:25 AM

just got my Profile Crankset...

must say - i am NOT impressed !!  >:(

finish is not good, with some pitting under the chrome on both arms, chrome is grainy and no where as good quality as I expected.

not sure what to do as it'll be a lot of hassle to return them ?

PROFILE !! get to the back of the class !!  :tickedoff:  :uglystupid2:

also, I thought they were quality checked at Colored tuffs also ? If they were, then the expected standard for this stuff has really dropped !  :buck2:



Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 08, 2009, 09:48 AM
Just got mine this minute - to be honest I'm not happy either.

The arms have several pits on the underside and you can see dents where they've been over polished in a few spots - prob caused by careless welding that they've had to cover up.

Under the chrome I can see lines as if they were polished with sandpaper inmstead of a proper polishing wheel.

Really dunno what the plan will be from here on. I might contact profile Europe and see what they say about it.

Guess it depends on what Ed says.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Swivel on January 08, 2009, 10:06 AM
Go through Ed I would, then get them suckers to pay for a re-chrome and polish over here and get it done properly. Be a hassle sending them back etc... really sorry to hear that you guys have had problems with such a top name like Profile  :-[
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 08, 2009, 11:26 AM
Click the pics for a better quality version.

A few pics to show how mine are, and to see what you all think...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/th_DSCF2151.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rooonga/?action=view&current=DSCF2151.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/th_DSCF2152.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rooonga/?action=view&current=DSCF2152.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/th_DSCF2153.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rooonga/?action=view&current=DSCF2153.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/th_DSCF2154.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rooonga/?action=view&current=DSCF2154.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v216/Rooonga/th_DSCF2155.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Rooonga/?action=view&current=DSCF2155.jpg)
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Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: diesel on January 08, 2009, 11:39 AM
oooooooooooo  ???

They should be called 'Wrigley Cranks'
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 08, 2009, 04:55 PM
by the looks of things, Same as the ones I fitted.......

As I said earlier, I run profiles on all my bikes, I love em.  I have bought properly used sets off Lazychubs and Mcnulty, both sets were refurbed are still in use and are great quality. these fooking things are awful, I take on board the point they make about using the original process's and that is great on paper. I still say that these have been made in a rushed fashion as they had peoples money and needed to turn em round quickly and with little thought for the customer, cos it seems more are unhappy than happy, which means they got it wrong, no debate.

As for putting faith in them and riding....er no, not with those welds.

If these had 2 sets of QC then its even worse than I thought

rant over.

Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 08, 2009, 08:17 PM
Alright, most people seem to be unhappy so just get them rechromed?  I get cranks done at the place that used to do Rickman and MRD and they don't charge a lot.

I compared my rechromed OS profiles with the new old ones and the difference really is incredible.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 08, 2009, 08:49 PM
Yeh I was chatting with Matt earlier, and said about getting a re-chrome, but why should we have to when they are brand spanking new?

I recon if they did a half decent job of the polishing before sending them off for chroming they'd be almost perfect and I wouldn't have been bothered about the odd dimple here and there. But it really does look like they've been polished with sandpaper!
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 08, 2009, 09:14 PM
Yeh I was chatting with Matt earlier, and said about getting a re-chrome, but why should we have to when they are brand spanking new?

I recon if they did a half decent job of the polishing before sending them off for chroming they'd be almost perfect and I wouldn't have been bothered about the odd dimple here and there. But it really does look like they've been polished with sandpaper!

exactly !

you wouldn't buy a  new car and get it resprayed (at you're own cost! even if it was cheap) cos the paint job was crap, eh !
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 09, 2009, 08:16 AM
Yeh I was chatting with Matt earlier, and said about getting a re-chrome, but why should we have to when they are brand spanking new?

I recon if they did a half decent job of the polishing before sending them off for chroming they'd be almost perfect and I wouldn't have been bothered about the odd dimple here and there. But it really does look like they've been polished with sandpaper!

exactly !

you wouldn't buy a  new car and get it resprayed (at you're own cost! even if it was cheap) cos the paint job was crap, eh !

Oh I agree completely but it's less than £20 to get a cracking chrome job here so as most of you imported them from the usa cheap, you've saved money anyway so if you aint happy, get them chromed and you're still quids in...
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: munners on January 09, 2009, 08:24 AM
Is there anyway that you could make these look like the real Gen2 profiles or are they completely different? I know they are date stamped. I need some original Gen 2's. :'(
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 09, 2009, 08:37 AM
Is there anyway that you could make these look like the real Gen2 profiles or are they completely different? I know they are date stamped. I need some original Gen 2's. :'(

Quite a different shape mate, wait for the right ones,i had to and haven't regretted it.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: munners on January 09, 2009, 08:38 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 09, 2009, 08:49 AM
Quite a different shape mate, wait for the right ones,i had to and haven't regretted it.

Are they?

Bloody hell - they said they used all the same jigs, tools, parts and everything.

Thought the only difference was the serial number on the back.

Can someone show this idiot (me) what the differences are please?
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 09, 2009, 09:57 AM
Quite a different shape mate, wait for the right ones,i had to and haven't regretted it.

Are they?

Bloody hell - they said they used all the same jis, tools, parts and everything.

Thought the only difference was the serial number on the back.

Can someone show this idiot (me) what the differences are please?

look like Gen 2's to me......? can't see the difference, apart from the serial no. as Paul says....,
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 09, 2009, 10:04 AM
LOL - I just had a look through and cant tell the difference.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: dialledbikes on January 09, 2009, 10:07 AM
I might contact profile Europe and see what they say about it.

Unfortunately Paul, as great as the guys at Profile Europe are, it's nowt to do with them as they didn't import/sell the cranks.  It's between you, Colored Tuffs and Profile Racing.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Rooonga on January 09, 2009, 10:15 AM
Cheers Mike,

Profile Europe are looking into it on my behalf already - same company and all that...

(Also they are a TOP bunch of blokes!)

Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: dialledbikes on January 09, 2009, 02:27 PM
Cheers Mike,

Profile Europe are looking into it on my behalf already - same company and all that...

(Also they are a TOP bunch of blokes!)



It's good that Steve/Sam are doing that.  They aren't obliged to.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on January 09, 2009, 04:44 PM
I got mine a couple of days ago.  I'm happy enough with them.  I'm sure they could have been better though, but at what price?  I agree that more prep work could/should have been done prior to chroming.  As mine are for a rider I don't really have any issues with them.  If Gossa can get some decent chroming done at a good price I will probably ride them as they are and, when they start to look a bit scruffy, get them rechromed then.

I wonder if the problem here has been that Profile had already set the price and were then forced to make the cranks to that budget.  If they'd made the cranks first, and made them to a quality rather than price, we might have had lots of happy people.  I hope this issue doesn't put companies off producing re-issue products, but there are some learning points here which other companies would do well to take heed of.

Here's some pics of mine anyway....

The mess on this arm is due to me just having wiped them with a manky cloth!  ::)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g260/kennyhunter4130/arms2.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g260/kennyhunter4130/arms1.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g260/kennyhunter4130/arms3.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g260/kennyhunter4130/goose1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 09, 2009, 06:36 PM
Kenny, yours were clearly welded by a welder, unlike some of the others
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: jT Racing on January 09, 2009, 06:41 PM
that's what i was thinking, he got lucky. that weld round the spindle bos looks fairly normal.
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: brass monkey! on January 09, 2009, 07:20 PM
nice Kenny !  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: thecrooch on January 09, 2009, 08:51 PM
Sets that off lovely Kenny
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: gossa on January 09, 2009, 09:12 PM
Gossa, Where can you get chroming done for £20?

South Coast Chrome, ask for Andy, tell him Clive from bikelab sent ya....
Title: Re: Retro profile cranks
Post by: kennyhunter6061 on January 09, 2009, 09:18 PM
Sets that off lovely Kenny

Cheers mate, Weather permitting I'll be putting the first scratches on the cranks tomorrow  ::)  Only thing is....It really needs some Crupi Rounds now.  Ah well, yet more spending!  They're never really finished are they.
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