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Title: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Peter J on January 26, 2009, 09:24 PM
Anyone know of any way to remove the Hard Ano off them. Apart from taking then to a plater to remove it.

I've tried:

Media Blasting. Will work but just worried its a bit harsh

Oven Pride.........pointless

 ???
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: bobafett on January 26, 2009, 09:29 PM
Anyone know of any way to remove the Hard Ano off them.

 :shocked: :shocked:
Why d'ya wanna do that mate ? Must be proper fooked to do that to e'm !
Can't you shine side them with some wet n dry and leave the inside of the rim hard ano ?  ???
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 26, 2009, 09:34 PM
Yep anno is flaking, and some goon has started to remove the anno and given up so they look a complete pig.....at the moment
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Daletsunami on January 26, 2009, 09:36 PM
Oven pride worked fine with mine, came off easy and have now polished up great  :smitten:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 26, 2009, 09:45 PM
How long did you leave it in the bag for ?
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Daletsunami on January 26, 2009, 09:49 PM
Was about 10 mins each rim, but constantly kept them turning in the thick of the oven pride and using my thumbs to rub it in.
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 26, 2009, 09:49 PM
Ok I'll give that another bash.....  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 26, 2009, 10:05 PM
Just tried the oven pride again and no joy................think they might be chrome plated  :-\

TBH its hard to tell..................think I'll take it to a plater to find out  ???
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: steve Beech TA on January 26, 2009, 10:45 PM


Try some gasket remover, spray it on and give them a little scrub with a tooth brush, i used my wife's :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: sawzall on January 27, 2009, 05:55 PM
i used caustic soda,they took about half an hour but keep checking every couple of mins,i also used a scotch brite pad to help remove it,the hard anno is a real bitch to remove >:(
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: login_user on January 27, 2009, 08:18 PM
i used oven pride on my hard annod rims but tou have to scrub them with a brillo pad like sawzall said  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: neiljonarcus on January 27, 2009, 08:30 PM
caustic  soda  thats  what i use  for  anadizzzzzzed stuff  it  works  a treat 
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: hunterdubber on January 27, 2009, 08:34 PM
I had a real bad time with my Pro cass 3's

Oven brite in the bag

kept going back to them every 10 mins for about 40 mins , nothing happening hardly

so left them for about another 40 mins , patchy as hell still ano on in parts and just started to pit  away at the rims
,,, gutted to say the least as these rims only had minimal brake rub on the rear only and front was like NOS  :crazy2:


I'd advise you to agitate it as much as possible  wih a brillo or equivelant
rather than let any type of acid do the work as the coating really is unbelievably hard  on the Pro class 3 's  :-\
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: hunterdubber on January 27, 2009, 08:35 PM
Normal anno comes off in upto 15 mins

this stuff doesn't  :(
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 28, 2009, 02:22 PM
Ok chaps...........I'll give it another bash............oven pride bag here I come !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: bobafett on January 28, 2009, 02:50 PM
Get some pics up mate - you know we're all voyeurs on here  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims (Now with Pictures)
Post by: Peter J on January 28, 2009, 03:18 PM
I'll get my fat fingers on the case tonight  :daumenhoch:

I'll put some special pictures on tonight  :D
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims
Post by: Peter J on January 28, 2009, 08:46 PM
So I've tried the Oven Pride trick again..left em for 20 min.......scotch brite rub down. in total they had 4 x rub downs and 120 mins in the bag.........didnt touch them.........

Any Idea's

I've not touched this one yet....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/P1010013.jpg)

This one's had the oven pride on it........

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/P1010010.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/a253/the1carper/P1010010.jpg)

The Matt looking bits in the middle are where its flaked off..........oven pride did................foooooooooook all  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: bobafett on January 28, 2009, 09:15 PM
Blast 'em  :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: etriedes on January 29, 2009, 04:14 PM
have you tried caustic soda #?
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Mattdub on January 29, 2009, 05:24 PM
I would try caustic , keep an eye on them though ! .
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: jT Racing on January 29, 2009, 05:39 PM
I would try caustic , keep an eye on them though ! .
:LolLolLolLol:
120 minuted in the costic and the y will be proclass superlite 1 1/8 sideless. be carefull with the stuff and do it outdoors. 5 mintues tops or they will get melted. works every time though.
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Peter J on January 29, 2009, 06:30 PM
No not tried the Caustic approach  :shocked:

I'll give it a bash at the weekend...

I took them into work today and started media blasting.......................bugger that it will take forever !!!
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Glynnyboy on January 30, 2009, 07:40 PM
If your not totally sure i would have a word with paul or mark at cca. It seems they were withdrawing there services just before christmas. They may have reconsidered from what i gather now.
I went over to take some stuff a few month ago and paul showd us the whole set up. We got talking about possibilites. Hard anno in particular, he said hard anno is a lot more resistant to wear than normal which is why your haveing trouble. Seems it actually strengthens the item which is probably why they started using it on the proclass :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Peter J on January 30, 2009, 08:21 PM
No joy with the caustic......  :'(

Looks like a trip to the platers
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: motomagII on January 30, 2009, 08:27 PM
that looks like chrome to me not anno
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Peter J on January 30, 2009, 08:29 PM
Did they chrome alloy pro class ??
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: jT Racing on January 30, 2009, 08:53 PM
if caustic did't touch it, either you didn't make it strong enough or it's not anno.
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: Glynnyboy on January 30, 2009, 09:43 PM
I think you may need to try kryptonite because it sounds like these feckers use to belong to superman.  :P :)
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: snav69 on January 31, 2009, 08:14 AM
The problem i can see with caustic soda now is that you have already started removing the anno in places so when you immerse it in the caustic soda solution it'll start eating away at the alloy where the anno isn't present i think  :-\
I would be very cautious and keep checking it all the time or they will have more holes in them than they do now  :shocked:

I have never used caustic soda before but have seen what it did to fishface's 7C's  :shocked:  :shocked:

If i'm talking b*ll*x i'm sure someone will correct me  :daumenhoch:

Paul  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Pro Class 3 Rims NOW WITH PHOTO'S
Post by: barge on January 31, 2009, 05:54 PM
Caustic soda will eat away the bare aluminium, leaving pits.
There's nothing that will eat the anodising and not the ally - anodising is a surface protection put on because it's more haard wearing than the bare metal.
Chromic acid should do it without removing the base metal but it is a very nasty substance and not so easy to get.

Anything abrasive will remove the bare metal quicker than the anodised metal, so again you'll see pitting.

tough job with no easy path. I'd suggest speaking to restoration specialists - classic car places, etc. Or maybe find an anodiser locally that might be able to help out?
Si
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