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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: teamsano on February 08, 2009, 08:00 PM
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just back from the park where i saw something we were talking about the other day. i do have pics, but is it ok to put em up? :LolLolLolLol:
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Pics is better than rumour mate, get em up :daumenhoch:
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i would rather see that vid of you lot on a certain oldschool bike the one that didnt survive in one piece.
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:LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :10_2_12:
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if there's tricks on old school bikes let's see em!
even if the bike dies, i'm gonna try peg grinding my TA and everyone tells me it'll die...if so, so be it. :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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that'll be the one grant ;D
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y202/teamsano/DSC01102.jpg)
there we are. now, this is NOT the same bike that i had seen cracked a few weeks ago, altho its the same make/model.
this belongs to a dude who cracked it 3 days ago and was still riding it, although it was actually his second one after his first frame failed in the same spot. the frame has lasted 2 months according to this rider.
so- now i've seen two of these bikes cracked and i can get pics of the other when my friend gets back from his hols on tuesday.
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what is it?
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if there's tricks on old school bikes let's see em!
even if the bike dies, i'm gonna try peg grinding my TA and everyone tells me it'll die...if so, so be it. :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
I tried a framestand on this earlier >:D
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/hh280/macky573021/n623642515_2101746_3253.jpg)
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So if Gogo has seen 2 cracked ones, and one of those was a replacment, then there are still 997 left that are fine.
Thats not bad is it?
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Best BMX video I've seen in AGES! :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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So if Gogo has seen 2 cracked ones, and one of those was a replacment, then there are still 997 left that are fine.
Thats not bad is it?
there's more gone than that alex!
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I sent 3 seperate "tiagra" shifters back to shimano in 1 week recently. needless to say I thought nothing of it and neither did the customers.
well, to be fair one did say that "shit happens"... they calmed down eventually and with councelling I am confident they will be ok.
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Ooops... :10_2_12:
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you are a Mark -ed man :LolLolLolLol:
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FFS
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I sent 3 seperate "tiagra" shifters back to shimano in 1 week recently. needless to say I thought nothing of it and neither did the customers.
well, to be fair one did say that "shit happens"... they calmed down eventually and with councelling I am confident they will be ok.
Do Shimano pretend that shit does not happen though? Another one in the Channel Islands cracked today too!
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for those of you that are so obviously dyeing to say 'i told you so' have a day off and get over yourselves, that last thread was sad enough. You seem completely hell bent on these frames being unfit for use simply because 'you know better'. ALL FRAMES CRACK. If you keep cracking them, maybe a beefier frame would suit your riding? It's not rocket science. I reckon other bike company's will follow suit with similar or lighter frames.
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for those of you that are so obviously dyeing to say 'i told you so' have a day off and get over yourselves, that last thread was sad enough. You seem completely hell bent on these frames being unfit for use simply because 'you know better'. ALL FRAMES CRACK. If you keep cracking them, maybe a beefier frame would suit your riding? It's not rocket science. I reckon other bike company's will follow suit with similar or lighter frames.
I disagree with every part of you post.
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for those of you that are so obviously dyeing to say 'i told you so' have a day off and get over yourselves, that last thread was sad enough. You seem completely hell bent on these frames being unfit for use simply because 'you know better'. ALL FRAMES CRACK. If you keep cracking them, maybe a beefier frame would suit your riding? It's not rocket science. I reckon other bike company's will follow suit with similar or lighter frames.
All frames are capable of cracking if ridden beyond their limit, but not all frames crack.
You're right about other companies following suit on the lightweight thing though. When S&M, Standard and FBM all got their cro-moly race frames down to the 4.2/4.5lb marks, I had to get my race frames down to a similar weight as well, which meant using much stronger air hardened cro-moly (Reynolds 853) tubes which meant I could go down in wall thickness, outside diameters and lose gussets, etc.
I think when using a top quality tube like 83, Supertherm or OX, then >4/<5lb is a respectable and durable weight for a frame. When using regular 4130, then 5/<5.5.lb is a sensible weight.
Don't really care what special heat treating processes are used or the type of tubing. When frames start coming in at 3.5/4lb, common sense should tell people that they will not be as durable as a frame with an extra pound or two of metal in em.
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I disagree with every part of you post.
wonderfull. FYI, i have looked on quite a few other bmx forums, there seems to be a very very small number of blokes, 3-5 maybe a couple more, who seem to be on a hate campaign against these frames being right. Many of the comments on hearing about one or two cracked frames is 'see, told you it's not safe' and 'told you that shit wouldn't work' etc.. Nobody gives a toss about cracked ltf's, but they have the same stupid comments, '4.2lbs i wouldn't trust it' and 'if i was a teenager maybe' etc, seems all the older, more uptight riders are out for blood at any chance they get with any subject.
Mike, just because your not building these frames that doesn't make them wrong. You may be in danger of getting left behind in the coming years if you leave yourself closed to new or alternative methods. Steel and alloy technology moves forward all the time. He's taken the bull by the horns and gone for it with a product he believes in and one or two or even ten out of a thousand on an innovative brand new product seems good numbers from a business perspective. What you say is true about common sense though, if you seem to land most tricks two foot away from your bike, are 14 stone plus or even as rough as hell all the time, then why would you even consider a revoloution/evoloution or ltf.
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It`s the Scottish mafia that seem to have a problem with these frames, could that be because the frames carry a Union Jack on them ?
If you don`t think a frame is going to be strong enough for you then don`t buy one, but don`t then start slagging them off, just get on with riding your own bike :daumenhoch:
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Mike, just because your not building these frames that doesn't make them wrong. You may be in danger of getting left behind in the coming years if you leave yourself closed to new or alternative methods. Steel and alloy technology moves forward all the time. He's taken the bull by the horns and gone for it with a product he believes in and one or two or even ten out of a thousand on an innovative brand new product seems good numbers from a business perspective. What you say is true about common sense though, if you seem to land most tricks two foot away from your bike, are 14 stone plus or even as rough as hell all the time, then why would you even consider a revoloution/evoloution or ltf.
If my post came across as "because I'm not making these frames they're wrong" then that wasn't the intention. Fair play to UK Bike Co for securing the rights to this new "technology" and going with it. From my perspective, I think it's still very early days to say one way or the other whether this "technology" actually works or not. If none of the frames had broken I would think "it's working", but as a number of frames have shown to have cracked within a few months' of purchase the jury is still out for me. I'm trying to speak objectively here as a fellow bike designer/company owner, not as a hater/rival to Dibly. When all the handbags are put away, this issue of frame weights and longevity is actually a very interesting subject.
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When all the handbags are put away, this issue of frame weights and longevity is actually a very interesting subject.
It certainly is!!
Trying to decrease weight has been tried before but didn't succeed.
Its alway going to be a contentious subject!! ???
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i think as someone said before......have a good dump before you ride and make sure you empty your p*ss bag at regular intervals :daumenhoch:
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When all the handbags are put away, this issue of frame weights and longevity is actually a very interesting subject.
It certainly is!!
Trying to decrease weight has been tried before but didn't succeed.
Its alway going to be a contentious subject!! ???
I was selling sub 4lb frames more than 4 years ago ;)
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mike, u doing a park bmx frame yet?
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mike, u doing a park bmx frame yet?
No mate. Just got the new BMX race frames due to land. Next BMX frame after that will probably be a trails frame (similar to original MX20 frame but with 990 mounts and a few tweaks here and there.
Dunno when I will get round to doing a park frame. Maybe protos in 2010, test for a year, then production in 2011.
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coolio mike!
let me know nearer the time eh?
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I'm going to ask what may be a dumb ass question....
What benefit is there to a lighter bike?
Surely you get used to what you ride and only notice the difference when you swap bikes, i.e. your body adapts to riding / sprinting / doing tricks on a specific bike over time.
In fact surely a slightly heavier park bike will give you more momentum. ???
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skinny jeans wearing ,pants hanging out the top kids cant lift heavier bikes :)
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It`s the Scottish mafia that seem to have a problem with these frames, could that be because the frames carry a Union Jack on them ?
If you don`t think a frame is going to be strong enough for you then don`t buy one, but don`t then start slagging them off, just get on with riding your own bike :daumenhoch:
union jack, what you on about?
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So the heavier the bike you have the more you're a man then???
Right I'm putting those agricultural forks back on!!!
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So the heavier the bike you have the more you're a man then???
Right I'm putting those agricultural forks back on!!!
:LolLolLolLol:
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pmsl :) :)
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I'm going to ask what may be a dumb ass question....
What benefit is there to a lighter bike?
Surely you get used to what you ride and only notice the difference when you swap bikes, i.e. your body adapts to riding / sprinting / doing tricks on a specific bike over time.
In fact surely a slightly heavier park bike will give you more momentum. ???
It's not a dumb question Barnaby!
I made the decision to go for a lighter setup so that I could ride for longer as I was finding I was fooked after a couple of hours riding (hucking) on my last bike. I've spent a considerable amount of money to save about 5lb's in weight:
Fly Campillo frame = 4.2(ish)lb
Victim Ti/mag pedals
BSD Ti crank spindle
Ti wheel nuts & Macneil seat bolt
KHE tyres
new wheels
etc etc
fact is I'm still fooked after 2 hours riding!!!! :LolLolLolLol: Ah well I do still like me bike tho :smitten:
With regards to Dibly & UKbikes, I remain squarely on the fence & I'm sure time will tell if he got it right or not but I will say good luck to him :daumenhoch:
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It`s the Scottish mafia that seem to have a problem with these frames, could that be because the frames carry a Union Jack on them ?
If you don`t think a frame is going to be strong enough for you then don`t buy one, but don`t then start slagging them off, just get on with riding your own bike :daumenhoch:
i don't have a problem with this frame, i can make my own judgements on bike parts perfectly thanks very much.
i thought it would be useful for folk to see proof that 'one' frame has cracked, as no-one seemed to believe it was possible.
the other thread was getting out of hand and turning into a slagging match full of rumour and innuendo, however here is the second piece of photographic proof on here that a frame is capable of breaking. a lot of folk on here didn't seem to think this was possible for some reason, perhaps they were afraid of upsetting the guy who runs the company because he's a forum member? don't believe everything you read on the internet kids!
i'm sure mr dibbly would rather sell 500 frames and have no problems, than to sell 1000 that all break.
anyhow, i wish mr dibbly all the best (again) and hope all his future frames lead long and fruitful lives!
oh, and heres a bit more info on the 'union flag' for you bill, as you can see, it incorporates the St. Andrews cross of Scotland-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_flag
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if you read bg another went crack with photo proof but I aint saying jack
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whats bg?
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bg = bikeguide
enter at your own risk,
and watch your ego,
its not a loved-up bummers club like RAD :LolLolLolLol:
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i go on with shinneys ,elbow pads and a full face.. ;)
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i go on with shinneys ,elbow pads and a full face.. ;)
i go on with a pot of vaseline :smitten:
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its not a loved-up bummers club like RAD :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
think i'll ch ch ch check it out. :daumenhoch:
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seriously though,
as with here 99% of the members are just good guys and bmxers,
some of them genuinely know there stuff aswell,
g-sport george uses the forum a fair bit and tbh he never ceases to amaze me with the responses and explanaitions he posts,
theres a few "professors" of bmx out there and he defo one of them,
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Well remember that iconic bike back in the day ! I think they called it a Ripper !
That had a few issues but became the best selling bike known to BMX mankind eh ;)
On a positive note - I love my unkown evo - and so do the other lads I know who's got them :daumenhoch:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g243/gashead69/P1020142_small.jpg)
At least three lads have them in our little town and rate them highly :daumenhoch:
Dibly - great bike mate :daumenhoch:
Ok things break - never mind move on - My marrage broke once so I got a new one ;)
My opinion :angel:
Nick
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oh, and heres a bit more info on the 'union flag' for you bill, as you can see, it incorporates the St. Andrews cross of Scotland-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_flag
Glasgow Celtic seem to run with the Irish tricolour :-X and don`t the Scots treat Maradonna like a hero ?
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THE DON
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/russabbot0709_228x411.jpg)
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Well remember that iconic bike back in the day ! I think they called it a Ripper !
That had a few issues but became the best selling bike known to BMX mankind eh ;)
Nick you are sex on legs and if it wasn't against God's will i would make you my wife but these bikes are in no way iconic!!
I'm not jumping on the anti UK bandwagon and good luck to the fella but 'innovative' and 'iconic' are not words i would use.
....and because the Ripper is an icon it still doesn't mean it was a good bike! (it wasn't)
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roll on the summer ,so i can get away from my laptop and just ride.
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Laz if ya wanna marry me just ask honey :-*
You iconic love monster :-*
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Rippers are so small!!!!
Bllody lovely though.
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Laz isn't so small
but bloody lovely. :-*
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yeah exactly, laz has a great big crack but we wouldn't change him for the world, warranty or not. :yahoo_silent:
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Glasgow Celtic seem to run with the Irish tricolour :-X
i believe its a football team who's founders were irish settlers in scotland...
and don`t the Scots treat Maradonna like a hero ?
don't you, like?
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Glasgow Celtic seem to run with the Irish tricolour :-X
i believe its a football team who's founders were irish settlers in scotland...
and don`t the Scots treat Maradonna like a hero ?
don't you, like?
So when in Glasgow which team would you follow, if you were in to football, Rangers or Celtic ?
And as far as I`m concerned Maradonna is a drug taking cheat, although I`m not bitter about it :LolLolLolLol:
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So when in Glasgow which team would you follow, if you were in to football, Rangers or Celtic ?
and this has what to do with bmx exactly?
i have absolutely no interest in football whatsoever. if someone asked you that question in a glasgow pub, the answer could reward you with a glass in the face or worse.
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Hey guys,
just a quick message to say that, the frame in the picture is mine.
as you can tell from the photo the paint has been removed at the gusset.
I removed the paint myself in order to keep track of any crack that may occur.
The reason for me removing the paint in this particular area is due to other forums 'advising' that this is the
most likely place for the frame to crack.
4/5 days ago i thought there may be a crack forming: Teamsano and BSDforever had no idea that i removed the paint from the frame for the purpose of
checking for cracks.
The reason for me not relaying this information to them and 'allowing' my bike to be photographed was to weed out persons wanting to taint
the name of UkBikeCo and owner Darren Block...
For those of you who want to know, My frame is NOT cracked and I am confident that I can trust this frame a LOT more than I can trust other people.
Thank you for an amazing frame Darren, I hope you ignore these negative posts and continue to produce amazing parts.
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Hey guys,
just a quick message to say that, the frame in the picture is mine.
as you can tell from the photo the paint has been removed at the gusset.
I removed the paint myself in order to keep track of any crack that may occur.
The reason for me removing the paint in this particular area is due to other forums 'advising' that this is the
most likely place for the frame to crack.
4/5 days ago i thought there may be a crack forming: Teamsano and BSDforever had no idea that i removed the paint from the frame for the purpose of
checking for cracks.
The reason for me not relaying this information to them and 'allowing' my bike to be photographed was to weed out persons wanting to taint
the name of UkBikeCo and owner Darren Block...
For those of you who want to know, My frame is NOT cracked and I am confident that I can trust this frame a LOT more than I can trust other people.
Thank you for an amazing frame Darren, I hope you ignore these negative posts and continue to produce amazing parts.
Has anyone posted any UKBike frames that have cracked ???, seems to me alot of BS and not much substance. These threads against Dibly are shocking, yes they really are ffs. Bmx new school seems to be full of jealous twats, long live old skool
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Hey guys,
just a quick message to say that, the frame in the picture is mine.
as you can tell from the photo the paint has been removed at the gusset.
I removed the paint myself in order to keep track of any crack that may occur.
The reason for me removing the paint in this particular area is due to other forums 'advising' that this is the
most likely place for the frame to crack.
4/5 days ago i thought there may be a crack forming: Teamsano and BSDforever had no idea that i removed the paint from the frame for the purpose of
checking for cracks.
The reason for me not relaying this information to them and 'allowing' my bike to be photographed was to weed out persons wanting to taint
the name of UkBikeCo and owner Darren Block...
For those of you who want to know, My frame is NOT cracked and I am confident that I can trust this frame a LOT more than I can trust other people.
Thank you for an amazing frame Darren, I hope you ignore these negative posts and continue to produce amazing parts.
that's a superb 1st post mate....and good on you for standing up and telling the truth. i also agree with DB250F :daumenhoch:
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do a decent pic then and shoe what's going on.
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So when in Glasgow which team would you follow, if you were in to football, Rangers or Celtic ?
and this has what to do with bmx exactly?
i have absolutely no interest in football whatsoever. if someone asked you that question in a glasgow pub, the answer could reward you with a glass in the face or worse.
I`ve been to a couple of Old Firm derbys, guess who I was supporting :crazy2:
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just a quick message to say that, the frame in the picture is mine.
as you can tell from the photo the paint has been removed at the gusset.
this is true.
I removed the paint myself in order to keep track of any crack that may occur.
The reason for me removing the paint in this particular area is due to other forums 'advising' that this is the
most likely place for the frame to crack.
this seems to be true.
4/5 days ago i thought there may be a crack forming: Teamsano and BSDforever had no idea that i removed the paint from the frame for the purpose of
checking for cracks.
why did u think there would be a crack forming? do you have xray eyes?
The reason for me not relaying this information to them and 'allowing' my bike to be photographed was to weed out persons wanting to taint
the name of UkBikeCo and owner Darren Block...
this is pure borderline comedy.
For those of you who want to know, My frame is NOT cracked and I am confident that I can trust this frame a LOT more than I can trust other people.
this is a lie, this frame is cracked.
thanks for filling us in dale.
just a couple of quick questions.
dale, is this your second frame after you broke or cracked a first?
dale, can you confirm the other couple of broken frames in dundee?
dibbly, did you forget to mention these broken frames?
cheers.
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I`ve been to a couple of Old Firm derbys, guess who I was supporting :crazy2:
i'm not really interested tbh.
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hey gordon,
I know you like to argue as much as I do, but honestly I can't be arsed doing it on the internet because it doesn't represent us fairly.
The post was merely informative.
here's a summary
1) my frame is not cracked, but appears to be where the paint is stripped.
2) I don't have x-ray eyes! the only reason i thought there 'may' be a crack forming is mainly down to the 'hate' messages on the internet
(in other words, I half believed what i read and removed paint to spot what 'may' occur early on)
3)I can't comment on the status of other peoples frames, sorry.
4)This is my first frame, and ironically, I hope it's not my last!
Anyway, i hope to see you at the Dundee Jam at the end of month. I'd rather ride than type these days...I am not getting younger and arguing is the same.
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i saw the funniest thing the other day with regard to one of these frames.
its the lying that gets me, oh it makes me chuckle
(nothing to do with whats going on in scotland, this is in europe!)
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i saw one of these frames he other day while i was out as well............it must've been cracked or shyte or something as.......
the bloke had taken off the decals and only left the head badge on......now that must mean it's rubbish and cracked and bent or something?? also the bloke riding was wearing a helmet! so this must mean it's rubbish and going to break if it hasn't already!
also i heard the other day that in timbucktoo they think the queens shyte stinks! :shocked:
FFS! ::)
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hey gordon,
I know you like to argue as much as I do, but honestly I can't be arsed doing it on the internet because it doesn't represent us fairly.
The post was merely informative.
here's a summary
1) my frame is not cracked, but appears to be where the paint is stripped.
2) I don't have x-ray eyes! the only reason i thought there 'may' be a crack forming is mainly down to the 'hate' messages on the internet
(in other words, I half believed what i read and removed paint to spot what 'may' occur early on)
3)I can't comment on the status of other peoples frames, sorry.
4)This is my first frame, and ironically, I hope it's not my last!
Anyway, i hope to see you at the Dundee Jam at the end of month. I'd rather ride than type these days...I am not getting younger and arguing is the same.
fantastic post!
well, i just can't argue with that can i? obviously you've changed your mind a lot since sunday.
maybe i'll take my slr to the dundee jam and i'll get a better picture that'll show it's 'not cracked'.
i'm just going to leave it at that about dale's frame. hope it lasts you well dale!
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not really wanting to drag this shyte on....but i just googled Snapped Bmx frame and all i got was someone going on about their rubbish WTP frame that snapped doing a 360 off a curb.....nothing about these frames........so there's obviously loads of people shouting off about them elsewhere aint there...................NOT!
I APOLOGISE FOR THE BAD LANGUAGE
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/General-BMX-Talk,2/fook-MY-LIFEI-SNAPPED-MY-FRAME-LOOK-PICS,131014
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i saw the funniest thing the other day with regard to one of these frames.
its the lying that gets me, oh it makes me chuckle
(nothing to do with whats going on in scotland, this is in europe!)
Come on Phil!! You can't just leave a comment like that, floating in the air......................
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don't want to say too much as theres a warranty going through and i won't be responsible for disrupting that,
i would just like to remind some members of the community that 'all this talk' 'are they really' and 'where's your proof' and 'where's the pics' and all the like. its not just being said in forums, its right across the board! all forms of communication, especially in the skateparks, we're still a small community those that ride, most people know of each other and know what people are up too. we talk a lot! and we see things! give each other opinions and advice!
the reason for this being hot topic all the time is simple, 1. its a british brand and its new! 2. its going to be even hotter topic on here as most on here know dibly, plus there's probably more collective knowledge of the industry on here than on any other forum.
personally i think some great things have been said, but also some sh!te, buts its for each to decide on which is which. my opinion has always been clear on these and i've backed it up with factual evidence from day 1, not a vendetta against a company, mearly concern for other riders, if they choose to ride them though, so be it. if they are being made by a secret band of ninjas using ninja technology then that only backs it up further, its a fantastic method with fantastic results for specific purposes, mainly cutting people faces off without snagging!
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Surely Ninjas would have better things to do like Assassinations rather than doing some metalwork!! ???
Unless there making Shurikens that is.............. :LolLolLolLol:
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Unless there making Shurikens that is.............. :LolLolLolLol:
we made some in metal work, well cut them out of some steel sheet whilst the teacher wasn't looking.
messed up a fair few desk tops i can tell you.
:daumenhoch:
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im off, to go boil my face in some hot water.
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I've got cheese with beans on toast for tea ::)
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I've got cheese with beans on toast for tea ::)
yummy.
with brown sauce too? do you melt the cheese in with the beans or just sprinkle it on top?
:4_17_5:
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does any body else believe in 'the right tools for the right job'?
if your a rider that goes big, lands hard.. you do not want to be running a sub 4-5 lb frame. fact.
Funny coz really, when ever I go on bmx forums I read about 'those UKbikeco frames ' etc,
but this is the 1st pic i've seen..
and the spin is it may even turn out not to be broken/cracked... jeez?!!?!
I have no doughts that some will break... but.. these are not commutor bikes!
I, along with most of the people I ride with, and have riden with, have broken frames along with a host of other parts, it happens!
Can someone name a BMX company that has NEVER ever had a report of a broken frame of theirs?? nope, didn't think so..
I stand on neither side of this, I just see alot of people being unfair, is there really any need for it?
its riding bikes..... thats it.
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does any body else believe in 'the right tools for the right job'?
if your a rider that goes big, lands hard.. you do not want to be running a sub 4-5 lb frame. fact.
Funny coz really, when ever I go on bmx forums I read about 'those UKbikeco frames ' etc,
but this is the 1st pic i've seen..
and the spin is it may even turn out not to be broken/cracked... jeez?!!?!
I have no doughts that some will break... but.. these are not commutor bikes!
I, along with most of the people I ride with, and have riden with, have broken frames along with a host of other parts, it happens!
Can someone name a BMX company that has NEVER ever had a report of a broken frame of theirs?? nope, didn't think so..
I stand on neither side of this, I just see alot of people being unfair, is there really any need for it?
its riding bikes..... thats it.
End of thread i think.
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ray some people have the hump and the rag between their teeth, they just wont or dont want to let it go.fair enough i say its a big world
i dont ride hard when i do, and busted 3 rear hub bearings in a strong freecoaster hub 3 times and dont see nowt about it on forums.
as you said if your a big jumper dont bloody buy one if your smooth then give it a go.
it will just run and run and run and run .
i try to keep out of it but got mates /friends on both sides of this discussion so keeping as level head as possible.
yep just spotted what laz said end of rearlly
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I've got cheese with beans on toast for tea ::)
Your arse is going to be going mental with farts after that.
They always go through me like nobody's business. :LolLolLolLol:
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i dont ride hard when i do, and busted 3 rear hub bearings in a strong freecoaster hub 3 times and dont see nowt about it on forums.
just out of curiosity, which hub was that dude?
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bruce crisman freecoaster
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i blew 2 end bearings behind the driver 2 axles 1 driver pair of bearings and he ball bearing blew out of the axle and its the beefed up street version.
i guess the upgraded new one will have all the issues ironed out.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/hub003.jpg)
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dan i've added you on msn.
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pmd back :daumenhoch:
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i blew 2 end bearings behind the driver 2 axles 1 driver pair of bearings and he ball bearing blew out of the axle and its the beefed up street version.
i guess the upgraded new one will have all the issues ironed out.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/d87/harris15570/hub003.jpg)
Find yourself a reloader Dan dude ;)
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i might sub
i got a set of federal bearings and driver bearings recently and a replaced another axle from billys bearings from seventies
they are all the same.i am running a geisha at the moment same thing but its holding up.
i have seen the adjustable one so might grab one.
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I`ve been running an oddy freecoaster for 2 years now and it`s been fine Dan :daumenhoch:
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dan my federal freecoaster blew the bearings after a week
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Wow Dan, you're on teamsano's mailing list. Does that come with a pencil case and a poster?
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Wow Dan, you're on teamsano's mailing list. Does that come with a pencil case and a poster?
;D
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I`ve been to a couple of Old Firm derbys, guess who I was supporting :crazy2:
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The champions?
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Brilliant clip!! :daumenhoch:
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Fookin awesome
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Absolutely brilliant :daumenhoch:
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:shocked: Diff gravy!
Love his motor. His legs are as bandy as fook!
:4_17_5:
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His legs are as bandy as fook!
;D
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fookin hell,
that lad can ride :shocked:
love that tech footjam shit!
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FOOKING AWESOME!!!!
Amazing rider!!!
Daz.
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amazing vid,dib dobs :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
i fcuking knew he'd hurt his tooties eventually
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amazing vid,dib dobs :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
i fcuking knew he'd hurt his tooties eventually
:LolLolLolLol:
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Excellent riding :4_17_5:
I also love the Golf 8)
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Excellent riding :4_17_5:
I also love the Golf 8)
sounds like a 1.8t conversion :shocked:
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Does he ride one of your frames, Darren?
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Excellent riding :4_17_5:
I also love the Golf 8)
sounds like a 1.8t conversion :shocked:
its a super charged vr6 i have been in it a few times and i have never been so scared in all my life
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Does he ride one of your frames, Darren?
yeah the new proto medium sized frame fits inbetween the 2 i have now and weighs 3.6lb :Great_Britain: he is also using his 28 hole wheels as well for the same amount of time he has had his frame which has been about 5 months now
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what toptube size you doing these new frames in??
please please something in the shorter size's :daumenhoch:
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Dibly, Have you any plans on doing Racing frames (or could you use your Frames already for Racing).
Is there a difference in geometry?
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what toptube size you doing these new frames in??
please please something in the shorter size's :daumenhoch:
hi mate yeah will be doing different top tube sizes in the future i only did 2 sizes on my last order just to test the water with them but have been asked loads by my dealers for shorter and longer frames
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Dibly, Have you any plans on doing Racing frames (or could you use your Frames already for Racing).
Is there a difference in geometry?
not to sure about race frames at the mo been asked a few times for them though mate
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short ones are hard to get but they are about ;)
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short ones are hard to get but they are about ;)
ssshh ;)
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Dibly, Have you any plans on doing Racing frames (or could you use your Frames already for Racing).
Is there a difference in geometry?
apart from the rear end being very slightly shorter there wouldnt be any reason you couldnt race one of the current frames tbh,
some race tyres and a plate and you'd be good to go,
dont worry about the brake type either, very little difference between ad's and v's these days,
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Love the way this thread turned out in the end, so am I right in saying the guys Revoloution wasnt even cracked at all?
Awesome vid of Mark, thats crazy lip trickery!
Cheers
Paul
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just watched that vid...........i just sat with my mouth wide open in disbelief! truely amazing!!! :4_17_5:
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flair to double peg how mad was that lol he's got the skills and ya can see the frame as held up well
and paul na the bloke just removed paint to check lol
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amazing video. maybe we'll start seeing steel toecapped vans & etnies,etc before long..... :LolLolLolLol:
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Does he ride one of your frames, Darren?
yeah the new proto medium sized frame fits inbetween the 2 i have now and weighs 3.6lb :Great_Britain: he is also using his 28 hole wheels as well for the same amount of time he has had his frame which has been about 5 months now
Well if he's riding like that on one of your frames and it's staying in one piece that's good enough for me mate. Top job on your part. :daumenhoch:
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maybe we'll start seeing steel toecapped vans & etnies,etc before long..... :LolLolLolLol:
Or riders running front brakes!? :crazy2: :daumenhoch:
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so am I right in saying the guys Revoloution wasnt even cracked at all?
no you're not right.
dale harper tells fibs, because dibbly flows him free stuff (or so he says) maybe dibbly can answer this? i never named him because i didnt want him to get in trouble with his 'sponsor'.
i saw the crack with my own eyes as well as other folk at the park who can confirm this.
it is the 2nd frame he's damaged.
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YAWN ::)
i could have swore that clip was in a separate thread last night and i posted in it ??? he can ride, good for the sport people at that level.
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so am I right in saying the guys Revoloution wasnt even cracked at all?
no you're not right.
dale harper tells fibs, because dibbly flows him free stuff (or so he says) maybe dibbly can answer this? i never named him because i didnt want him to get in trouble with his 'sponsor'.
i saw the crack with my own eyes as well as other folk at the park who can confirm this.
it is the 2nd frame he's damaged.
IF he tells fibs, he's not the only now is he
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Infact fook it, why dont you and your mate streetjudge leave it now, you are starting to look desperate
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I think it's mission accomplished there Si. :LolLolLolLol:
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simon, have you got any ladies beach cruiser type bikes, or could you get any?
I know its a change of topic, but im bored now.
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simon, have you got any ladies beach cruiser type bikes, or could you get any?
I know its a change of topic, but im bored now.
Yes sire, will pm you tomorrow :daumenhoch:
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good lad.
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ladies on cruisers. mmmmmmmmmmmmm
(http://www.cruiserbike.ca/images/chick_magnet.jpg)
Dale: what about Sam's frame?
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Dale: what about Sam's frame?
I think the hint was move on joe
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I know where she could put those cow horns!!!
Talking of the horn - Ive got it!
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Dale: what about Sam's frame?
I think the hint was move on joe
yeah you're right.
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unknown bike company = made from girders :Great_Britain:
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I had a bloke in the shop yesterday, been riding since the late eighties...in the last 3 months he's snapped 2 pairs of S&M Slam XLT's where the crossbar meets. He hadn't thrown the bike, they cracked just on landing trails.
Where are all the forum threads ripping S&M apart? They don't, it's just a laugh when it happens. We accept it.
Why do we have a habit of knocking our own in this country?
We should be celebrating our innovation.
We should be supporting our own. Not just UK Bike Co, but all the other British brands in BMX - Dialled, BSD, Federal, whoever...
Come on guys a bit of national pride wouldn't go a miss here.
If UK Bike Co frames start cracking, Darren will be on it, tweak the design and keep moving forward. That's product development. In the same way any other manufacturer would do.
The guy has outsold every other frame in the country over the last 4 months by about 12:1 - with the sheer numbers there are bound to be some casualties come to light, just as there are in every other manufactured product. But believe me, Darren takes any problem to heart and gets it sorted - he's passionate about BMX and riders, he's not after a quick buck.
I'm not crawling up Darren's arse here, I have no other interest in his business other than stocking the frames and parts alongside the 40 other brands I stock.
But I do feel that we should give a little more support to someone who's come on the scene and tried to make a difference.
Someone who hasn't settled for a 'me-too' frame with a set of different graphics - he's tried to move the sport on, rightly or wrongly. One things for sure we need innovators to produce the extremes so that we can raise the bar and not settle for normal.
I don't ride a UK Bike Co, but I'm glad they exisist - it shakes up the establishment and keeps BMX interesting.
Anyhow. Soap box done. Sorry.
Love and peace.
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I second that. :daumenhoch:
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Well said Stodgy :daumenhoch:
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Can i just put something to bed please?
Is Mark Webb snapping 1 frame a week or whatever the rumour is?
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Can i just put something to bed please?
come and tuck me in about 10.30pm :-*
one a week sounds like an exagerattion (spelling?)
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i'm sure that's an exageration....but watching that bangers and mash video i think he'd break whatever frame he was riding! :shocked:
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Can i just put something to bed please?
Is Mark Webb snapping 1 frame a week or whatever the rumour is?
come on lads! look i said he has been riding the same prototype for the last 5 months along with the same proto type 28 spoke wheels if you dont belive me i dont really care, im going to let the riders who buy my stuff and ride, and ride well to do the talking now end of conversation and thread for me now.
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The guy has outsold every other frame in the country over the last 4 months by about 12:1 - with the sheer numbers there are bound to be some casualties come to light, just as there are in every other manufactured product. But believe me, Darren takes any problem to heart and gets it sorted - he's passionate about BMX and riders, he's not after a quick buck.
tried to make a difference.
Just out of interest stodgy, how do you know that he ukbikeco has outsold everything else by 12:1?
Just wondering as I cant see how any company would know how many units another company has sold
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Can i just put something to bed please?
Is Mark Webb snapping 1 frame a week or whatever the rumour is?
come on lads! look i said he has been riding the same prototype for the last 5 months along with the same proto type 28 spoke wheels if you dont belive me i dont really care, im going to let the riders who buy my stuff and ride, and ride well to do the talking now end of conversation and thread for me now.
Dibly do you mean he has been riding the exact same frame for 5 months??
not knocking you but I would have thought mark webb would go through frames alot quicker, not just yours pretty much anyones
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The guy has outsold every other frame in the country over the last 4 months by about 12:1 - with the sheer numbers there are bound to be some casualties come to light, just as there are in every other manufactured product. But believe me, Darren takes any problem to heart and gets it sorted - he's passionate about BMX and riders, he's not after a quick buck.
tried to make a difference.
Just out of interest stodgy, how do you know that he ukbikeco has outsold everything else by 12:1?
Just wondering as I cant see how any company would know how many units another company has sold
It's an estimate Andy based on the conversations I have with the distributors and seeing UK Bike Co's sales on a spreadsheet.
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Can i just put something to bed please?
Is Mark Webb snapping 1 frame a week or whatever the rumour is?
come on lads! look i said he has been riding the same prototype for the last 5 months along with the same proto type 28 spoke wheels if you dont belive me i dont really care, im going to let the riders who buy my stuff and ride, and ride well to do the talking now end of conversation and thread for me now.
I read the 5 month thing but there has been a lot of 'oh i heard this' and 'i saw that the other day' and just wanted to clear that one up with a nice straight answer.
Thanks Dibly, hopefully this can be laid to rest now. ;)
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ok cool thanks for the reply
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so am I right in saying the guys Revoloution wasnt even cracked at all?
no you're not right.
dale harper tells fibs, because dibbly flows him free stuff (or so he says) maybe dibbly can answer this? i never named him because i didnt want him to get in trouble with his 'sponsor'.
i saw the crack with my own eyes as well as other folk at the park who can confirm this.
it is the 2nd frame he's damaged.
IF he tells fibs, he's not the only now is he
no apparently not,
there's a few fibbers in here.
and of course supporting local brands is important, especially in this day and age.
there's just a lot of unanswered questions in this thread.
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i wish my dog would stop farting, it fooking stinks and my eye's are watering. she's just been out too. >:(
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i wish my dog would stop farting, it fooking stinks and my eye's are watering. she's just been out too. >:(
Blaming it on the dog, eh!! :LolLolLolLol:
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Well said Dave, totally agree with you there!
Cheers
Paul