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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: dordymush on February 06, 2006, 12:30 PM
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right then info needed.
im building up a streetbeat as a rider.went and bought a new DB head set from halfords yesterday for it.got back home and got the hammer and bits of wood etc to knock it in thinking it would be a bit of a job by what you fella's have said before.but the cups just slide straight in by hand. no hammering nothing. even the bottom bearing ring slipped onto the forks with no fuss.is this right. i thought they should be well tight to put in.like i say i want to ride this bike. and not being a small fella in the belly area i want it right.what you think about this ?.
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yeah, it has happened to me before.
told you beats was cack ;)
lol
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sounds like you may have the wrong headset
are MTB headsets just slightly smaller?
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dont know gra. it said 1" heavy duty head set for standard bmx's.
i dont want to start riding it and it be wrong :(.
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dont know gra. it said 1" heavy duty head set for standard bmx's.
i dont want to start riding it and it be wrong :(.
thats an odd one.
take it the fook back and get a replacement
have you got another cup you can try in the frame? off another bike (that you know is the right cup)
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That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?
I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?
:-[
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That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?
I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?
:-[
so long as it is in good condition
most 1" headset parts are interchangable in my experience
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Thats not good on a rider Dave, it needs to have negative pressure or the frame will start to bell out and be ruined, thats why they are normally so hard to put in :(
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That was a question I needed to ask - can new bits be used with old bits when building a bike up?
I'm only thinking headsets and bb's really?
:-[
so long as it is in good condition
most 1" headset parts are interchangable in my experience
Cheers Squire :daumenhoch:
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cheers bill i thought it was'nt right.
you got any more of them ones you had graeme to try ?.
let me know dude.
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cheers bill i thought it was'nt right.
you got any more of them ones you had graeme to try ?.
let me know dude.
got a few mate
i can sort you out.
wanna pop round later?
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will do old chap. what time is good for thee.
you any good at fitting these things lol.
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dave did that bike shop sort you out?
for the record, dave come to mine yesterday afternoon and i found that his headtube is larger than a 1" headset but smaller than a 1 1/8th
the headtube looks like it has been machined out. we tried different headset cups, all of which just fell into the headtube with no resistance
i guessed that skyway must have used a non standard headset cup size for building these beats. daves is a raw one. anyone else have an unpainted beat? the headset go in ok?
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the headtube on that green one was machined out too, graeme.
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the headtube on that green one was machined out too, graeme.
doh
what did you do for a headset?
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new school diamondback headsets are slightly smaller, buy an old school tioga headset, this will solve the problem..
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you sent me one. if you remember correctly.
lol.
i found one that fitted ok. not REALLY tight, but no wobble. it was a strange one though from ginnys. beartrap i think, with rubber shields instead of the normal cup thing. to tell you the truth its not perfect yet.
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didnt the one i sent fit then?
its weird
in daves frame the cups would pull in and out by hand. but the cups i was trying fit the other frames i have fine
i have had a couple of cheap halford db headsets and they are very tight in all other frames.
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the top fit ok....but there was no bottom cup.
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tell u the truth i was rushing to get it built up. i didnt have to hammer it in, but it was tightish.
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tell u the truth i was rushing to get it built up. i didnt have to hammer it in, but it was tightish.
dont know where that bottom cup went!
in daves, the top cup was slack. if you turn the frame over it would drop out
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nah, it was deffo tighter than that.
maybe a shim would sort it.
taks away the point of it being cnc'd tho.
maybe try one of those that weston suggested
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sounds like the best bet
but i fitted one of those headsets i gave you to a nos haro fst frame at the weekend and had to literally hammer the crap out of it to get it on
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i fitted a db one it the ta as well. that was the same. perhaps its just skyway frames.
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didnt know you had a nos fst. gert it to bones.
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I wonder why those Streetbeats were never painted? Perhaps they had manufacturing flaws?
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I wonder why those Streetbeats were never painted? Perhaps they had manufacturing flaws?
How dare you besmirch the good name of Skyway Phil, possible your right though :10_2_12:
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but the green painted ones are just the same.
so that aint it lol.
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i fit a tioga beartrap to the frame bill gave me & had to hammer it on, i ended up cracking it as it was that tight, then i bought a db one that just slid on loose & the bit that goes over the forks was loose, same prob with the prolite i had... the old school ones have a tight fit....
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i think some were intended to be shipped as frame and forks, and some were intended to be built and sold as bikes
the ones to be built and sold as a whole bike by skyway were machined to suit a headset that skyway had in abundance.
TA's could be the same.
maybe skyway fitted beefier cups.
i think they need an "OE" headset of some kind.
no one would ever know as changing your headset cups didnt happen too often.