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Title: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 16, 2009, 09:39 PM: Right, I've just bought my second pair of Tuff 2s in 1 week. I always wanted a pair for my BMX when I was 15 back in 1985, and now I've bought 2 pairs in 1 week - but when I'm 38. I returned the first pair which cost £105 as they were damaged. This new pair cost £40 and look pretty okay. The rear wheel has the alloy star shaped hub thing, but the front doesn't - although it says Tuff 2 on the wheel and has patent No: 4280736. They do look a pair but I thought both wheels should have the alloy hub, being 80s. Once again I need the oracles to advise, until I learn all this!! Any ideas?

Thanks

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Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: dwain dibbly on March 16, 2009, 09:42 PM: early ones have metal hubbs front and back mid-late 80's
have plastic fronts
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: munners on March 16, 2009, 09:42 PM: If the rear iis an alloy hub and a front sealed then the chances are they are 80's originals as they also came like this as a pair.
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 16, 2009, 09:44 PM: oh good, so I have got 80s ones!! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: series.1.rs.turbo on March 16, 2009, 10:16 PM: I still have a set I bought in 1985, & was offered the choice of alloy hub or later style you have.

As above, they came this way with the alloy back hub....so I would say they are mid to late 80's :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 17, 2009, 07:43 AM: so is there any diference between my later style 80s wheel and the new skyways?
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: moanjam on March 17, 2009, 07:59 AM: your front one is the same as new ones and obviously rear is differrent but as far as i know they use same moulds and materials :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: MartyC on March 17, 2009, 12:37 PM: Quote from: GavinKent on March 17, 2009, 07:43 AM
so is there any diference between my later style 80s wheel and the new skyways?

Yours are loose ball bearing hubs, the ones today are sealed bearing hubs :daumenhoch:

They were around late 84 onwards so if you wanted a pair in 85 I wouldn't mind betting you've got what you would have got back then ;)
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 17, 2009, 12:53 PM: Excellent ;) so how can you tell?
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: telelogic on March 17, 2009, 06:31 PM: they still come with unsealed bearings unless you get a coaster set or the convertible axle version.
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: LOS1969 on March 17, 2009, 08:55 PM: when did skyways go all plastic?
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: magna13 on March 17, 2009, 09:02 PM: 87 onwards? ???
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: MartyC on March 18, 2009, 12:11 AM: Quote from: telelogic on March 17, 2009, 06:31 PM
they still come with unsealed bearings unless you get a coaster set or the convertible axle version.

Interesting, Skyway and Colored Tuffs sites both say they all come with sealed bearings except the coaster brake rear :-\
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 18, 2009, 07:19 AM: So if you have a sealed bearing wheel from the 80s, and a new one, there must be some way to tell them apart and I'm sure Skyways can. I'd like to compare them together and measure bits etc., to find out the tiny differences. They must be there somewhere. I have too much time on my hands!! :idiot2:
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 18, 2009, 07:22 AM: Or I should say loose bearing hubs from the 80s!
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 18, 2009, 07:40 AM: I've found the serial number on the rear wheel of my tuffs - it's either 2620757 or 2626757 - any idea of date?

Thanks
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: oberonspacefruit on March 18, 2009, 10:01 AM: you will struggle to find someone who will answer that question, perhaps you should take it up as your "cause".....

start a list, tuffs, serial numbers, known dates.

thats just the kind of painstakingly tedious thing thats always being done on here.....but not one that i know has been attempted so far.
Title: Re: More Tuff 2s
Post by: GavinKent on March 18, 2009, 12:35 PM: Good idea. Are Tuffs interchangeable - can you use the rear on the front, or vice versa, if you changed the axle or whatever you had to do?