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Title: Why cant i manual?
Post by: fouronethreeoh! on April 21, 2009, 08:10 AM
Is it cos im just sh1t

Seriously though, any tips.
I just cant seem to get it, it looks so easy on vids.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lazychubs on April 21, 2009, 08:13 AM
yes it does look easy but its down to balance and doin about a million of em
till ya get it right .oh and always cover the brake as it hurts when ya flip out
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: pickle on April 21, 2009, 08:20 AM
i can't manual......and i've put it down to the fact that i am indeed Shyte!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on April 21, 2009, 09:42 AM
Maybe your asking the wrong person, Q&A on here may help  :daumenhoch:

http://www.wickedstyx.com/
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: Dex Dexter on April 21, 2009, 12:11 PM
Just practice.  Mine get longer every day and I couldn't do one at all a few months ago.

Seriously - just lean back and pull the front end up.  Look for the sweet spot where you balance.  Use your brake for safety.  Keep doing loads of them.

It will happen.

 :) :)
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: Bushwacked on April 21, 2009, 04:26 PM
Yeah,  you gotta try try try try try try and try some more.

My tip (similar to Dex's) would be lean back smoothly and let the front end come up slowly. Doing it smoothly will allow you to find your balance point easier - if you jerk the bike up it won't be smooth and the bike will more than likely loop out.

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: DIRTBIKER250F on April 21, 2009, 04:34 PM
As above, Manual aint gonna come over night i know alot of ppl think leaning back is the key. If you check out the link you can see a crouching stance is the real key to a successful Manual  :daumenhoch:

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Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: series.1.rs.turbo on April 21, 2009, 05:39 PM
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lodge on April 21, 2009, 06:35 PM
If you watch john taylor in the vid you will see how he moves his lower body weight to keep his balance (dare I say like a humping motion) this is the key moving your lower body anyway you need to to keep that balance point also try and keep your arms straight.

I think its one of the nicest tricks in bmx. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lodge on April 21, 2009, 06:41 PM
As above, Manual aint gonna come over night i know alot of ppl think leaning back is the key. If you check out the link you can see a crouching stance is the real key to a successful Manual  :daumenhoch:

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Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lazychubs on April 21, 2009, 06:52 PM
my longest so far was from the spine volcano at corby to the 8ft quarter at the back with no coping on
can just do about 6 ft now lol
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: harris on April 21, 2009, 06:53 PM
jon taylors on nice bloke, frickin shat hot smooth rider to boot.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lodge on April 21, 2009, 07:09 PM
jon taylors on nice bloke, frickin shat hot smooth rider to boot.

I'll second that,  he was awesome with a front brake when he used to run one, always remember him nosepicking the volcano at rehab and stalling for what seemed like forever while he looked up at everyone on the deck.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: fouronethreeoh! on April 21, 2009, 07:36 PM
Like i said they make it look so easy.
"Lean back and just roll along on the back wheel"   ;D  ;D  ;D

Im not giving up just yet.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: Stella Dave on April 27, 2009, 12:26 AM
I'm havin same prob mate, seems impossible but I'm gonna keep at it.
No idea how to just lean back and lift it yet without jerkin it up!
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: macky on April 27, 2009, 03:26 AM

I can't manual for sh1t...

but my mate Sam say's... hang ya arse over ya back wheel as much as ya can....

pull up the front end... and hover ya front wheel off the ground...

use ya arse as a counter balance... and adjust ya knees/ leg's/ arse for ya balance as much as ya have to...

Now I really listen to Sam cos he's an Amazin rider.... and he know's his sh1t...

I still can't manual though... not Sam's fault... I'm just that Sh1t!!  :-\

But the counter balance thing works for a lot ppll....

Balance ya front wheel with ya arse hanging over the back wheel...

Let us know if it works for ya though...  :daumenhoch:





 
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: jedi on April 27, 2009, 10:16 AM
i must actually take time out to learn to manual
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: chi11i on May 04, 2009, 09:33 AM
Same Jedi as STW?
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: Bushwacked on May 04, 2009, 09:43 AM
There is only one true Jedi!

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: jedi on May 04, 2009, 08:29 PM
yeah same. why?
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: dialledbikes on May 04, 2009, 08:40 PM
I can only manual jumps on a race track.  Longest one I've ever done on the flat is about 4 or 5 parking spaces and that was a fluke because I wouldn't be able to do that consistently.

They look easier than they actually are.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: HARODAVE on May 04, 2009, 08:58 PM
I can`t manual for toffee either  :rant:, i`ll have t give it more of a go ..it does look cool as fook when you get them down.....

Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: chi11i on May 04, 2009, 09:21 PM
jedi - no real reason except you must ride a *lot* of different stuff :)
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 04, 2009, 09:23 PM
I can nick a cheeky manual here and there.  This is what I know;

Trying to learn on the flat ground in a straight line is bloody hard, it took me ages to learn to do that - maybe even longer than learning it on ramp.  Sooo, my advice would be to learn on miniramp, or out of a bowl or bank at your local spot. Summat the feels comfortable to you.

The trick is to hop the lip (kinda like a speed jump) and as soon as you feel your wheel is over the lip, kick your arms and legs out straight. This will drop the rear wheel down on the ground and automatically put your weight back over the rear of the bike.  Then, as others have said, a good manual is controlled by body english. You've probably seen riders bending or straightening their legs as they manual to maintain balance.  You can cheat (like I do) and feather the back brake to help your control.

The other thing that helped me was to aim for summat. It takes your mind off the job a bit.  On ramp its easy, you're heading for the coping again. Out of a bank or bowl, look for summat to head for - another bowl or bank preferably - if not, then a crack in the concrete, graffiti, a coke can you've put on the floor, whatever.

If you used to do wheelies back in the day, then you have a headstart, they're not so dissimilar.

If anyone feels it might help them, I can do a wee video next time I go riding.

Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: harris on May 05, 2009, 07:24 AM
i think you should do a video anyway twobob  your soooo smooth   
im learning again on my new bike,its set up well different from my last and feels odd
try leaning against a wall with your elbow resting on it,pull up on the bars and get the front up
you can balance and get the feel of the point your after  then as rob said dont look at the front look way ahead.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: pickle on May 05, 2009, 07:43 AM
A 'How to' video would be cool Bob  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: Bushwacked on May 05, 2009, 07:59 AM
Yeah, TBRs How to's vids would be cool.

Personally I've never had a bad bit of advice yet!
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: jedi on May 06, 2009, 12:17 AM
chilli, yeah man  :)
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: chi11i on May 06, 2009, 08:11 AM
if the rain holds off today - ill be spending my lunch hour trying to manual - new summers resolution :)
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: fouronethreeoh! on May 09, 2009, 08:14 AM
Been practicing the last couple of weeks, thanks for all the little tips, its coming together slowly.
Feels a little more natural getting the front wheel up, less jerking on the bars, more weight over the back wheel  ;)
Practice, practice, practice.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: lodge on May 10, 2009, 04:42 PM
I kinda already had manuals but not to the extent where I could go forever, well today I tried the looking forward thing as it made no sense to me, I always looked at the front tyre but wow what a difference looking forward makes.
I'm also keeping off the rear brake much more now.
Thanks for the tips.

Anyone seen Karl Poynters manual in road fools 15..........amazing he goes round and round a skatepark for ages, he does backwards manuals too, really good watch.
Title: Re: Why cant i manual?
Post by: harris on May 10, 2009, 04:56 PM
when i rode a motorbike  everyone said at first look furthur up the road and as far round the corner as possible
dont look down   ,i said ye right  but bloody nora i went round the corner 5 times smoother and much faster just took guts.
manuals are the same you will go were your looking,its a balance perseptive i think in the mind.
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