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Title: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: bmxbob on August 29, 2009, 10:52 PM
just got mesel this Goose, should i polish it?
is it supposed to be chrome or nickle plated?
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/102_5492.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/102_5493.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/102_5494.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/102_5495.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/BYmSi6wBWkKGrHgoH-CYEjlLlq68ZBKiqMv.jpg)
looks original to me, mongoose stamped seat clamp, headset, bottom bracket and snowflake.
crappy levers tho  ;D
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: winnit93 on August 29, 2009, 11:02 PM
that badboy is original,think they are nikel plate.
dont know why but ive always liked those :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: sid1972 on August 29, 2009, 11:06 PM
That's cracking were did u get that  ???  I want one :tickedoff:

nickel finish is original, I think, but bobafet will confirm this, he is your man, for goose!

:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: winnit93 on August 29, 2009, 11:09 PM
That's cracking were did u get that  ???  I want one :tickedoff:

nickel finish is original, I think, but bobafet will confirm this, he is your man, for goose!

:daumenhoch:

yes ive heard he likes a game bird but what about the bike :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bmxbob on August 29, 2009, 11:14 PM
aye, cheers lads.

I have PMd Mr Fet with pics for his appraisal  :daumenhoch:

any ideas what to do about the rust so i dont damage the finish on the frame, think the forks have had it  ???
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: moanjam on August 29, 2009, 11:19 PM
thats nickel bob nice find dude where yu get it like on the bay ?
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bmxbob on August 29, 2009, 11:25 PM
thats nickel bob nice find dude where yu get it like on the bay ?

yeah, evilbay  >:D
it was listed badly  :shocked:
i knew i was gonna win it as soon as i seen it  :smitten:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on August 29, 2009, 11:30 PM
if i understand the serial numbering correctly,is that August 1981 produced?.Looking on Vintagemongoose.com it appears that a goose of this ilk is chromed.
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on August 29, 2009, 11:35 PM
sorry,forgot to ask,how many holes does the rear brake bridge have?apparently,one central caliper hole and one slotted hole either side indicate a full cro-mo frame.
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bmxbob on August 29, 2009, 11:47 PM
sorry,forgot to ask,how many holes does the rear brake bridge have?apparently,one central caliper hole and one slotted hole either side indicate a full cro-mo frame.

yeah, August `81  :daumenhoch:
It has one hole in the bridge mate.
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on August 29, 2009, 11:50 PM
i guess that must mean a tri-moly frame??
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: sid1972 on August 29, 2009, 11:50 PM
aye, cheers lads.

I have PMd Mr Fet with pics for his appraisal  :daumenhoch:

any ideas what to do about the rust so i dont damage the finish on the frame, think the forks have had it  ???


I would try T-CUT first.. I have a set of torker forks which I thought were ready for rechrome - I was surprised at how much rust it actually removed.. use a tooth brush and do not let T-CUT dry out and keep rubbing!  :)

:daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bobafett on September 08, 2009, 10:47 AM
bmxbob - got your PM about this mate, as I said in my reply soz for the delay - been on me hols for 2 weeks  8)

From the pics that certainly looks like nickel and i'd give it a good autosol n elbow grease treatment  :daumenhoch:

You can see on the seat tube near the seat clamp where the nickel has been protected by the seat clamp from oxidisation and is shinier.

Nickel frames were certainly still available from mongoose in 1981. Chrome was being used also but nickel was still an optional finish as well as various paint finishes.

Just for confirmation though I have 2 nickel frames from 1981 - a January and an June so nickel frames were definitely made in 81.

I love 81 with mongoose averything is a big mess  :LolLolLolLol:

Dropouts changed, serial number style changed, forks changed, decals changed etc.  :D I'm not even mentioning mongooe II / 2 again  :-X ;D

As for your forks - they are the correct forks looking at the front on view - a lot of people mistake these forks and cali forks especially when listed on there own on ebay with no decals - they look almost identical from the dropouts and tube thickness but the ones correct for mid 81 through early 83 gusset geese are more rounded "U" shape if you look at 'em upside down whereas the cali ones have a slightly more "V" or "Y" shape to them when looked at them in the same orientation - I've got a side-by-side comparison photo I did a while back explaining this better visually - i'll try and dig it out.

Nice score by the way - what's your plans / colour scheme for the build mate ?

 :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bmxbob on September 08, 2009, 11:06 AM
After a quick Autosol  :smitten: session
Please excuse the seat, wheels n tyres  ??? they are just slammed on for the photo.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj239/bmxbob/102_5670.jpg)
As for the colour scheme, i have just get mesel some buiscuit skinwall comp3s and was wondering how im gonna incorporate them into a build, maybe this one ?
Can you get buiscuit coloured grips ?

cheers for the info on the forks bobafet, would be good to see a photo of the forks side by side  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: NORTY40 on September 08, 2009, 12:02 PM
Looks like it has come up well mate  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: Spen69 on September 08, 2009, 12:17 PM
Sweeeeeeet find Bob :daumenhoch:

Don't forget that the 'goose factory back then had the stamps on the BB done before they welded them to a frame, so especially at this time there will be every combination you can imagine. I've have both chrome and nickel '81 bikes, but an August '81 in nickel is a nice score as it's very late in the day for nickel plate :smitten:

Personally I prefer the nickel finish as it has a soft yellow glow to it rather than the harsh brightness of full chrome plate. Also, it's much more resilient to knocks and scrapes and polishes well. Like John, I've had just about every old 'goose and would always take a pre-'81 in nickel over anything else (with the exception of a Pro-Class of course, but I've got one of those already.....!)

Looks great - don't spend too long polishing it as it's supposed to look like that and you will ride it, not sit there staring at it :angrysoapbox:

Spen
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: bobafett on September 08, 2009, 02:57 PM

What a difference a bit of autosol makes to a dull nickel frame - nicely done sir  :coolsmiley:

As for the "tan comp 3's" you've bought - I have seen these on ebay myself and always wondered how you'd encorporate them into a build hmmmm - custom tan padset maybe  :shocked:  ??? as for tan grips I'm not sure but early geese came with "hunt wilde" transparent grips and "winner's circle" transparent grips most of which knocking around now have a 'tan' kind of colour to them as the sun has done it's work over a 30 year period  :D so they might work  :-\ bit of tan suede over a shabby mx seat as a resto job maybe  :-\

I tend to stick to the standard mongoose accessory colours most of the time (red/blue/yellow/black) that said watch this space for my daughter's custom minigoose coming soon..............


 
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: Spen69 on September 08, 2009, 03:55 PM
that said watch this space for my daughter's custom minigoose coming soon..............
Mmmm, I wonder what colour that's gonna be then kids........ :angel:

I'm currently just starting on "project Lil' Ripper" for my daughter, but seeing as it's only her first birthday tomorrow, I think I have a bit of time to finish it off ready for her :2funny:

Get that Minigoose up JonnyGoose - I can't wait to see it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: stevochb on September 08, 2009, 06:47 PM
Polished up well that das :)
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: Daddybass on September 08, 2009, 07:43 PM
Autosol and elbow grease wot a difference saw that bike on the bay was tempted myself love seeing stuff given  given new life good work  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: PK6061 on September 08, 2009, 08:13 PM
did my goose in red looks great   :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ?
Post by: bmxbob on September 09, 2009, 12:46 PM


Nice score by the way - what's your plans / colour scheme for the build mate ?

 :daumenhoch:



decided im going with red as i have just received a nice red fluted seat post so i need :- red rear brake and caliper, red grips (mongoose if poss) red aero style seat, red wheels or mags  wyg?
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: NORTY40 on September 09, 2009, 01:08 PM

I'm currently just starting on "project Lil' Ripper" for my daughter, but seeing as it's only her first birthday tomorrow, I think I have a bit of time to finish it off ready for her :2funny:


 :LolLolLolLol:     They grow up so fast though  ;)

Happy 1ST Birthday to ' little spen 69'  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Monngoose, is this the original finish ? Had the Autosol out :)
Post by: Spen69 on September 09, 2009, 08:31 PM
Yep, Isobelle's just been to the park on her bright pink tricycle she tore the wrapping paper off earlier.... just wait till she can ride the Ripper eh :smitten:

After that, she's got a Mini Pro-Class :uglystupid2: :LolLolLolLol:
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