RADBMX.CO.UK
BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: haro__master1985 on September 11, 2009, 07:08 PM
-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250493353361&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182
Wow :shocked:
-
A rite bit of kit ;)
-
That's about what he paid for the complete bike :LolLolLolLol:
-
think iwould have prefered one of the earlier ones that stevecosta had for sale
-
lol yep makes a change for me to do better lol
buyer mailed me saying he had 500 on it so he really wanted it :daumenhoch:
-
So how much is my early 1 with the huge top tube , no frame number and narrow forks worth ? :shocked: :2funny:
-
So how much is my early 1 with the huge top tube , no frame number and narrow forks worth ? :shocked: :2funny:
like to see a pic of it
-
lol yep makes a change for me to do better lol
buyer mailed me saying he had 500 on it so he really wanted it :daumenhoch:
nice one jackal, some you win some you lose, you just never know, guess it depends how much the buyers want it,
-
So how much is my early 1 with the huge top tube , no frame number and narrow forks worth ? :shocked: :2funny:
like to see a pic of it
Here we are ;)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v649/haro_master1985/CIMG0094.jpg)
-
and to think they only cost £75 bitd :idiot2:
-
and to think they only cost £75 bitd :idiot2:
Yeah mint isnt it ,unless you want one of course ::)
I blame the strange adults who collect kids bikes ,who have more money than sense :2funny:
-
nice price mate :daumenhoch:
i bet DP ladder bars would reach that price now :LolLolLolLol:
-
lol yep makes a change for me to do better lol
buyer mailed me saying he had 500 on it so he really wanted it :daumenhoch:
I bet Boyakasha's pretty gutted. He should have sold the repro Skyway instead :D
-
think he did dude check ebay for frame and forks
possibly it?
and boyakasha was glad to get rid :daumenhoch:
-
steve firebird is going round bidding on em all, bumping the prices up
-
steve firebird is going round bidding on em all, bumping the prices up
:LolLolLolLol:
-
i said to firebird lets get some ladder bars made, shouldnt be a problem, just how big a quantity, 20? 30? sets
-
Doing pad sets stickers is one thing but doing repro bars is just gonna make people sell them as genuine,i may as well post this and save it so when it happens i can say i said so, i have offered big money for dp ladder bars in the past and been refused my offer has been over £200 quid.
the only 2 other bikes i have seen on ebay with ladder bars i have bid on and one other than the dp freestyler frame and forks and ladder bars had nowt else worth anything to me so it was big till (£580 iirc?) just for a frame and the bars and a pile of stuff not sought after.
the other one i got and that has genuine day glo green ladder bars which are amazing and even glow in broad daylight.
i couldn't believe £380 sheets for a f+f either the other week,thats going to be one expensive build unless it has scrap fitted to it :P
-
bugger selling em to people, keep em all for ourselves, steve thinks they may have been copied back in the 80's anyway so some that are out there may not be the real deal
-
IF i did have any bars made it will be clear to everyone that they are repro bars and not original. i get asked 2/3 times a week through the site for ladder bars. If people want them, may aswell offer them too.
-
steve firebird is going round bidding on em all, bumping the prices up
:LolLolLolLol: cheers pete
im not , really, im not
-
thing is though whats to stop someone selling fake dp ladder bars as genuine ????
it already happens with pads,i even read it today a bloke buys genuine original pads that are genuine original repro's :shocked:.
well i'll stick my neck out and say someone will try and sell them on as genuine and i would be very wary about buying genuine dp racing bars after any repros are for sale for more than the repro's price, unless the person selling them has photo proof they owned the original bars before the repro's come out.
i better get mine in the museum with a date that shows mine to be before any repros are made.
-
bugger selling em to people, keep em all for ourselves, steve thinks they may have been copied back in the 80's anyway so some that are out there may not be the real deal
never heard that and i used to go to loads of local bike shops in the north wales flintshire area,never ever saw any fake DP stuff and i used to see loads of bikes bitd.
i have however seen hutch ladder bars are you getting confused with those ??
-
Just Stamp them like Gossa (I think) and his ESP repops....nobody had a problem with Jonny Choppers Skyway race repops and I am sure he sold a fair amount.Great idea and will be a nice touch for that real dp look :daumenhoch:
-
Just Stamp them like Gossa (I think) and his ESP repops....nobody had a problem with Jonny Choppers Skyway race repops and I am sure he sold a fair amount.Great idea and will be a nice touch for that real dp look :daumenhoch:
well said that man,if they are deffo able to tell they are repro (sorry i said fake earlier thats a harsh word :-X) thats ok i suppose but if repro identical dp ladder bars and frames start popping up making the values of the original stuff fall i would seriously think about getting rid. i have invested thousands into my dp firebirds and don't want my investment going ti ts up.
-
well, if someone is selling repro pad sets as originals then thats up to them, if you look at my pads you can see they are repro.
and like i said IF i get some bars made you would have to do a lot to them to make them look original that it wouldn't be worth the effort
-
the fake frames weren't made in flint, they were being made by a bike shop somewhere in Warrinton, after dp moved to flint the owner started making them. they only made frames no forks.
i would only like to make around 10 / 20 sets of bars and that would be all. the Knurling would be different and they would have the web address and batch number on them,
they would be more retro bars than repro anyway. don't know of anyone selling retro TA's or Haro Gen 1's as original so i don't think it would be a problem
-
Another one up now
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I'm sitting here feeling so SO F**king lucky to have fluked the find of a GL Plus Limited Edition. I'm new to this site and new to restoring bikes but I'm not new to DPs as I spent years in the 80s riding one. I can already relate to the money that people spend to create some of the bikes seen on here - its an addiction and the attitude of 'no-compromise' is the life blood to the scene - I collect hip hop, funk and anything with drums. When old records get released it is always obvious that they are NOT the original - but there IS a audience to buy a re-release of the music as people would rather have a copy than nothing - the copies do nothing to effect the price of the originals because they are 'copies'.
There's nothing to stop anyone making and trying to pass off copies of the items that are pulling the money in on E-Bay - Steve is talking about stamping them and building in subtle differences so you know the copies from the originals. Copies that are sold as such do nothing to reduce the price of the originals. I'm all up for Steve doing this because the chances of me finding a pair now are very rare, but I want a ride that feels like the bike I had in the 80's - a DP Firebird with Ladder bars - and I want it NOW because I'm 37, my knees kill and and want to make the most of how I'm feeling. My take on this is that if Steve did ladder bar copies I'd buy a pair in a heart beat, for the same reason I'd buy a re-release of a classic record I KNEW I couldn't afford to buy... you know its not the real thing but you want to experience the 'feeling' however you can.
I'm sure this will come up on the on the Firebird chat room tonight ( http://www.dpfirebird.co.uk/ @ 8.30pm )
-
well, if someone is selling repro pad sets as originals then thats up to them, if you look at my pads you can see they are repro.
and like i said IF i get some bars made you would have to do a lot to them to make them look original that it wouldn't be worth the effort
so ya telling me my pads aren't original s I purchased off ya Steve :LolLolLolLol: bet nobody's got a firebird freestyler with a slight twist in it :LolLolLolLol:
-
well, if someone is selling repro pad sets as originals then thats up to them, if you look at my pads you can see they are repro.
and like i said IF i get some bars made you would have to do a lot to them to make them look original that it wouldn't be worth the effort
so ya telling me my pads aren't original s I purchased off ya Steve :LolLolLolLol: bet nobody's got a firebird freestyler with a slight twist in it :LolLolLolLol:
hey i have some mint forks of a bent geezer from brum though ;D
-
well, if someone is selling repro pad sets as originals then thats up to them, if you look at my pads you can see they are repro.
and like i said IF i get some bars made you would have to do a lot to them to make them look original that it wouldn't be worth the effort
so ya telling me my pads aren't original s I purchased off ya Steve :LolLolLolLol: bet nobody's got a firebird freestyler with a slight twist in it :LolLolLolLol:
hey i have some mint forks of a bent geezer from brum though ;D
:LolLolLolLol: them forks are mint , ya still got em ??? still got the frame :LolLolLolLol:
-
choppers been punting bars and cranks out for years and havent heard of anybody selling em as the real deal, not like biagiospeeds :-X
-
Another one up now
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
the chances of me finding a pair now are very rare, but I want a ride that feels like the bike I had in the 80's - a DP Firebird with Ladder bars - and I want it NOW because I'm 37,
that makes feel very lucky to get my latest one thats bonafide bad to the bone with original Ladder bars :P
-
well, if someone is selling repro pad sets as originals then thats up to them, if you look at my pads you can see they are repro.
and like i said IF i get some bars made you would have to do a lot to them to make them look original that it wouldn't be worth the effort
so ya telling me my pads aren't original s I purchased off ya Steve :LolLolLolLol: bet nobody's got a firebird freestyler with a slight twist in it :LolLolLolLol:
hey i have some mint forks of a bent geezer from brum though ;D
:LolLolLolLol: them forks are mint , ya still got em ??? still got the frame :LolLolLolLol:
yep and they are still as good as the day you wazzed over them :2funny:
-
I tottaly F**king agree - the last I saw of my original DP and ladder bars was in the early 90's with some little Coventry thief riding off on it.
:2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :2gunsfiring_v1: :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
-
I'm finding this Old School BMX Collecting/Restoring or what ever you wanna call it, is getting stranger and stranger as each year passes. I don't wanna sound like I'm slaggin any particular manufacturers off as everyone has their favourites.... but back when I used to ride late 70's early eighties the DP/Firebird stuff was widely regarded as pretty "low end" to put it politely.
I just get really surprised to see things like this go for such wacky money :uglystupid2:
-
- some people have a genuine connection to the bikes they obsessed with / had a memorable time riding and want that feeling back.
- some people read about other peoples experiences and want to buy in to it so they can be 'cool' - it happens with everything
DP's were never Haro Master's but they were UK made and affordable and loved. Not sure about how they were perceived in the late 70s early 80s but in the mid 80s you either had one and loved it or had one and wanted to sell it as you wanted a Performer - check the Wall of any ABMX - always 2 or 3 DPs on there - I guess it was really a transitional bike that you learnt on ( or stuck with in my case ) but its remembered with affection and thats what counts.
-
- some people have a genuine connection to the bikes they obsessed with / had a memorable time riding and want that feeling back.
- some people read about other peoples experiences and want to buy in to it so they can be 'cool' - it happens with everything
DP's were never Haro Master's but they were UK made and affordable and loved. Not sure about how they were perceived in the late 70s early 80s but in the mid 80s you either had one and loved it or had one and wanted to sell it as you wanted a Performer - check the Wall of any ABMX - always 2 or 3 DPs on there - I guess it was really a transitional bike that you learnt on ( or stuck with in my case ) but its remembered with affection and thats what counts.
Totally agree with ya fella.... I just thought it was a lot of money for a dp that's all especially as a couple of performers are up for ale on here for a good 100 quid less. But I guess if ya want it... ya pay for it!
.... I know I have :LolLolLolLol:
-
I pity the fool who perceives old kids bikes as investments :crazy2:
-
Another one up now
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
You will all probably have noticed that this one has the wrong forks and it also looks like the bottom of the rear dropouts have been cut off (although it just might be a trick of the light) ;)
-
I pity the fool who perceives old kids bikes as investments :crazy2:
shut your jibbaa jabba , i have bmx stuff that is worth a load more than what i paid.
that i think you would find makes it a good investment :2funny:
-
A few years ago the going rate for a DP freestyler frame and forks was about £75. I bought quite a few back then - have had a total of 12 DP framsets pass though my hands over the years ::) I didn't buy them as investments or to make money. I bought them to keep and restore and would only sell one if I found something better to replace it with :daumenhoch: I would have been quite happy to sell them for what I got them for but I usually just stuck them on ebay at 99p with no reserve and the prices just kept going up and up :idiot2:
-
I pity the fool who perceives old kids bikes as investments :crazy2:
shut your jibbaa jabba , i have bmx stuff that is worth a load more than what i paid.
that i think you would find makes it a good investment :2funny:
:LolLolLolLol: Glad it's worked out for you. Remember, you need to sell this stuff when the market is at it's peak or you will kick yourself as prices crash at a later date and you'll feel like a crazy fool when it's worth farthings again. :)
-
choppers been punting bars and cranks out for years and havent heard of anybody selling em as the real deal, not like biagiospeeds :-X
That's because he puts a stamped JC and serial number on all his stuff :daumenhoch:
-
choppers been punting bars and cranks out for years and havent heard of anybody selling em as the real deal, not like biagiospeeds :-X
That's because he puts a stamped JC and serial number on all his stuff :daumenhoch:
does he fook, ask him nicely and he wont stamp it for you
-
Another one up now
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
You will all probably have noticed that this one has the wrong forks and it also looks like the bottom of the rear dropouts have been cut off (although it just might be a trick of the light) ;)
I didn't notice when I first looked - Firebird Steve pointed it out to me last night on the DP chat room - the rear dropouts do look kid of weird! could just be the light - Ebay has jacked up the price of many a good deal - once theres a sniff of something with some coolness factor like sharks they are in there.
I never get why people 'bid' anymore - once you are aware of esnipe and sites like that then why bid? it just drives the price up and you pay more. With esnipe theres never any disappointment - you choose the price you want to pay and it gets bid 6 seconds before the end. If you win cool if you don't ... well you didnt want to pay that much.
I chose the wrong time to get back into it which is just fukin typical - it I hadn't found the radbmx forum and seen the bikes of people like Firebird, Stevecosta & phantom photon I wouldn't be as up on putting the time in and doing a sick restoration though - thanks for the drive lads :daumenhoch:
-
It surprises me why people think you have to sell a investment,i know people who have valuable stuff but its not for sale,its like they dig the fact its sought after and that its worth good money makes it more appealing.
i think with DP's theres people who will buy them and don't care they are not original,i like the fact my chrome ones have a original shine and dayglo one's still wear its original paint and i'm looking at what DP sent out the factory door to a kid that loved it.
i never owned a bike i hated bitd sure i had stuff i bought only to sell that i didn't have time for but DP's were always being bought and sold.i would buy one off someone who didn't use it and sell it to someone who did want it.
its funny how DP freestyler f+f's do more than a lot of yank f+f's which seems to be a problem to some of the owners of said yank bikes :Great_Britain:
-
would buy one off someone who didn't use it and sell it to someone who did want it.
100% behind that philosophy :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
"when the spirit of people is dying...thats the time to be twice as hard tryin"
-
bttt
roll up roll up.............
that dp frame with the wrong forks and modified rear drop outs is on £227 quid and 15 sheets postage at the mo with over 2 days to go,
i think its doing big wedge,and its difficult to buy genuine forks seperate,i have only ever seen 3 pairs of forks for sale and heard about another set on here,thats 4 in total not including the ones that were supposed to be in a bike shop nos last year that i never found out if they were.
whats it gonna do then http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
if it does £275 i'm gonna have a beer :D
-
bttt
roll up roll up.............
that dp frame with the wrong forks and modified rear drop outs is on £227 quid and 15 sheets postage at the mo with over 2 days to go,
i think its doing big wedge,and its difficult to buy genuine forks seperate,i have only ever seen 3 pairs of forks for sale and heard about another set on here,thats 4 in total not including the ones that were supposed to be in a bike shop nos last year that i never found out if they were.
whats it gonna do then http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Old-school-Retro-Vintage-BMX-dp-firebird-freestyler_W0QQitemZ220482141891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Bikes_GL?hash=item3355c27ec3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
if it does £275 i'm gonna have a beer :D
£275 with wrong forks and dodgy drop outs ?
Im going a bit higher ,£290 ;D
-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220482141891&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182
wow for an old nail with the wrong forks :D
might put mine on with a £400 reserve :shocked: :2funny:
-
Nothing surprises me anymore in the crazy world of old-fashioned kids bikes :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2:
-
how flipping much ??????????????????????????????????????? :D
£365 plus 15 quid postage plus repair the rear drop outs and find some genuine dp freestyler forks and that ebay f+f could stand you over £500 quid easy :P.
infact i'm gonna be cheeky here as i'm in the mood for it :angel:
how much is that in dollars as is and in one piece plus shipping to america :2funny:
show them yanks how much a lil ol' North Wales DP does :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: :Great_Britain: ave it :coolsmiley:
off for a beer now... £380 :D
-
I've got a frame/ fork/ and wait for it............................................Ladder bar set freshly powdered by the man himself SBD, and decaled and paded by fiebird steve. You can all buy the lot for £4000.00.
:LolLolLolLol: Si.
P.s thats not a joke. :LolLolLolLol:
-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220482141891&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182
wow for an old nail with the wrong forks :D
might put mine on with a £400 reserve :shocked: :2funny:
I'm sorry but that is just insane :idiot2:
That's even more than the Haro Gen 1 ended for earlier tonight ;D The crazy thing is that this was not even the highest the winning bidder was prepared to go. If you look at the bid history you can see that he had the top 2 bids!!!!
Still not persuading me to part with any of mine though - as I've said before I'm not in it for the money, just the love of old school BMX :daumenhoch:
-
whoa double P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you seriously suggesting a lil ol' North Wales DP did more readies than a Haro like what Bob smoked :P
my dp firebird freestyler collection is doing daddy proud now investment wise
CheeRS hic ;D
-
I won a complete DP Freestyler on ebay last year for £180. Parts were reasonably average, but useable or worth a few quid either way.
I couldnt be arsed to pick it up in the end so advertised it on here (was up in Cumbria I think) and someone else had it instead. Wish i'd been arsed now...lol
p.s. Rebel Freestylers will be next (im saving mine till its worth a grand) lol
-
I won a complete DP Freestyler on ebay last year for £180. Parts were reasonably average, but useable or worth a few quid either way.
I couldnt be arsed to pick it up in the end so advertised it on here (was up in Cumbria I think) and someone else had it instead. Wish i'd been arsed now...lol
p.s. Rebel Freestylers will be next (im saving mine till its worth a grand) lol
don't say the rebel mc freestylers will hit over $1500 dollars Ea. Danny as them 2 i sold last year would buy me a mansion and a sunroof cadillac in Chernobyl :shocked:
-
my dp firebird freestyler collection is doing daddy proud now investment wise
CheeRS hic ;D
swings and roundabout s , it depends on how bad 2 or 3 peeps want it at that time on the bay which ell push the price up , you'll probably see a few on there now with buy it now 400 sheets cause peeps who own one have seen that price , happened with loopy rippers a while back hitting a grand , loads then appeared and prices dropped , same has happened with the haro gen 1 freestyler ,
-
come on then who bumped the price up ?
-
Not me ,ive got 1 and I dont want a white one :)