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Title: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 20, 2009, 04:45 PM
Or are they stamped on the block behind the bottom bracket?
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: djgivvinup on September 20, 2009, 05:16 PM
the one i had was stamped under the bb  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 20, 2009, 05:24 PM
Hmm cheers.. so the only way to id a UK supergoose is the extra holes in the brake bridge? (apart from weight)
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: James Nada on September 20, 2009, 06:02 PM
Hmm cheers.. so the only way to id a UK supergoose is the extra holes in the brake bridge? (apart from weight)

That must be covered in this monster thread:

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=17064.0

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 20, 2009, 06:10 PM
Thanks for that eddie.. should use the search button more.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: bobafett on September 20, 2009, 11:05 PM
Hmm cheers.. so the only way to id a UK supergoose is the extra holes in the brake bridge? (apart from weight)

The UK supergoose 3 does not have the 3 holes - only the USA.

To sum up - the UK supergoose frame is essentially an all tubes chro-mo cali/expert frame dated late '84 (prior to that point supergoose frames in the UK where the USA frame) with supergoose decals.

The key important thing is that the UK supergoose has chro-mo forks like the USA one, whereas a cali/expert does not.

So basically if there are no survivor decals to help ID it then - late '84 full chro-mo cali style frame + chro-mo forks = UK supergoose 3  :daumenhoch:

PS it was also known as the '75' model and the other things that made it a distinct model where the renthal bars and post in place of the stock mongoose equipment ;)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/UKsuper75.JPG)

 8) :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: James Nada on September 21, 2009, 08:35 AM
Bobafett,

Do you know if it is possible to identify if a set of forks are indeed chro-mo (aside from the weight)?

(Sorry for the thread hijack).

EDDIE
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: bobafett on September 21, 2009, 09:27 AM
Bobafett,

Do you know if it is possible to identify if a set of forks are indeed chro-mo (aside from the weight)?

(Sorry for the thread hijack).

EDDIE

yes - but it would be difficult from a picture on their own - you'd really need them side by side with a set of cali ones as there is a slight diff - I'll try and stick a piccy later to show what I mean ;)

Also the later 86 triple butted cali's had chro-mo forks as standard - these are stamped "lungi chro-mo" so if you where trying to piece together a UK super I guess you could buy a set of these - although not strictly era correct they are full chro-mo  :)

I'll try and get some pics up of the earlier chro-mo / non chro-mo comparisons  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: James Nada on September 21, 2009, 09:33 AM
Cheers boba  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 21, 2009, 12:19 PM
I picked up an unstickered goose, serial M4J*** which is Oct 1984 and it
just seemed really light compaired with previous cali's ive owned.
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: bobafett on September 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
I picked up an unstickered goose, serial M4J*** which is Oct 1984 and it
just seemed really light compaired with previous cali's ive owned.

Weigh it without headset cups / BB cups and I can confirm for you  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: jimmyp on September 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
I picked up an unstickered goose, serial M4J*** which is Oct 1984 and it
just seemed really light compaired with previous cali's ive owned.

Think the M4J are UK Supergoose  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 25, 2009, 10:03 PM
I picked up an unstickered goose, serial M4J*** which is Oct 1984 and it
just seemed really light compaired with previous cali's ive owned.

Weigh it without headset cups / BB cups and I can confirm for you  :daumenhoch:

Ok took some pics and weighed

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v605/scary_leary/IMG_3599.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v605/scary_leary/IMG_3602.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v605/scary_leary/IMG_3593.jpg)
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 10:48 PM
Hmmmm..... dunno how accurate your scales are bud - but she seems a tad heavy for a full chro-mo to me - looks like she's weighed in around the 2.3kg mark ? :-\

Mine weighs in at 2.175kg on my digital scales.

I'm not breaking my blue max down to weigh a main-frame only chro-mo for ya  :LolLolLolLol:

Try some digi scales if ya can  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 25, 2009, 11:47 PM
hmm..yours is light, heres a bit copied from jimmyp's monster thread:

"Well i weighed the frames this morning on proper scales used to weigh food and here are the results   

The U.K. Supergoose Frame weight  2.370 kg

The USA Supergoose Frame weight 2.395 kg

The U.K. Supergoose Frame & Forks total weight is 3.235 kg

The USA Supurgoose Frame & Forks total weight is 3.250 kg"

Also mines stamped 03 under the brake bridge   :-\  whats that about?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v605/scary_leary/IMG_3597.jpg)
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 11:50 PM

Those weights of jimmyp's are with headset cups and BB cups in as I remember  ;)
Title: Re: Do UK supergoose 3's have stamped bb?
Post by: scary_leary on September 26, 2009, 08:34 AM
Weighed it again with head/bb cups came in at 2.380kg.. but the scales are a bit shit
sometimes its 2.370kg then its 2.390kg. yep need some decent scales
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