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Title: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 01:09 PM
Here it is

Always wanted one as a kid, finally got round to getting off me arse.

The f&f cost £65 off ebay, but didn't need too much autosol treatment. The serial no. is M3-E2519, which the people at vintage mongoose state is an 1983 expert. Do you concur bobafett? Got lucky with the tuffs, £50 unused and boxed from a local bmx shop who's owner is an old school sympathiser. The opc is a rechromed mongoose with mongoose bottom bracket. The pedals, chainring and grips were via vert-ego. The decals were from BMX products and cost a bomb. The seat post and handlebars are unbranded but cheekily decaled as I wanted them BITD.

Big thanks to Spen69 for the pads and brakes and for taking the time and trouble to help me out.
Hope you like 

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx192/padster3523/Image0041.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx192/padster3523/Image0042.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/xx192/padster3523/Image0043.jpg)
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: sid1972 on September 25, 2009, 01:15 PM
cracking that...  :smitten:

and u did get lucky - with frame and wheels I'd say..

:daumenhoch:

Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bigsman on September 25, 2009, 01:56 PM
Lovely jubbly man.  Looks fresh out the box  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: telelogic on September 25, 2009, 02:01 PM
That looks fantastic :4_17_5:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: moanjam on September 25, 2009, 02:16 PM
sweet dude
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: moley on September 25, 2009, 02:17 PM
I've always liked the Mongoose's!!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: phantom photon on September 25, 2009, 02:36 PM
Very nice   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: NORTY40 on September 25, 2009, 02:57 PM
That looks mint Paddy  :4_17_5:  Great build mate  :daumenhoch:

You got a bargain there too with the frame and forks  :D  I see you took the plunge and got some of Bill's decals  ;)
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: southern andy on September 25, 2009, 03:09 PM
Thats nice.  :4_17_5:  but i'm sure JimmyP off of here does those stickers.
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 03:16 PM

Nice work Paddy - love it mate  :daumenhoch:

The frame n forks look mint  :coolsmiley:

Really clean looking build.................


........come round to ours and I'll race ya round the block on mine  :LolLolLolLol:


(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/bobafett_84_cali_rider_new2s.JPG)


As for your serial number mate - certainly an '83 as for confirming expert / cali, without survivor decals who knows  :LolLolLolLol:

The catalogues have the first calis & experts down as both having main frame chromoly and just equipment spec setting them apart. Later catalogues then have the cali as all tubes chromoly and the expert still as main frame chromoly only so it's easier to tell them apart after late 84  ;)
I also have a theory about the dash in the serial but I can't fully prove it yet without more serial number / frame examples. Both my cali and UK super are all tubes chro-mo and do not have the dash but my 84 blue max is main frame only chromoly and that does have a dash  :-\

As far as I'm concerned with that serial number she's a cali or an expert, whichever you like, and either way mate she's a beauty  :smitten:

Top work - now go get yourself a gusset goose to keep her company and mongoositis will take a hold of you  >:D

 :LolLolLolLol:

 :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: kdw712 on September 25, 2009, 03:56 PM
nice build  :daumenhoch:

the expert i had was a all tubes frame
with all orig decals too so no iffy guess work


Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 04:16 PM

the expert i had was a all tubes frame
with all orig decals too so no iffy guess work


Ya gotta love a good goose puzzle ay Kev  :D :LolLolLolLol:

No reference to an all tubes expert in the catalogues  :-\

But then again it's mongoose - there are always guidelines never rules   ;D

Just don't mention 1981  :-X
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 04:20 PM
I presumed they believed it to be an expert due to the E in the serial number, or is that stating the obvious. By the way johngoose, how big is the block you want to race around? Is mongoositis air-borne?
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Glynnyboy on September 25, 2009, 04:21 PM
 :smitten: Lovely matey.
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 04:30 PM

Is mongoositis air-borne?



It's worse than that mate - you can catch it through the computer screen  :shocked:


Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 04:36 PM
I presumed they believed it to be an expert due to the E in the serial number

Oops sorry bud forgot to add.....

E = may  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: rollin72 on September 25, 2009, 04:48 PM
ruedas agradables :daumenhoch:
looks mint, bet your happy with that, nice1 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 05:12 PM
I presumed they believed it to be an expert due to the E in the serial number

Oops sorry bud forgot to add.....

E = may  :daumenhoch:

We're not starting another mongoose serial no. thread are we?  May being the fifth month and e being the fifth letter of the alphabet?
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 05:14 PM

  May being the fifth month and e being the fifth letter of the alphabet?



You got it Paddy  :daumenhoch:


.....Oh and by the way, it's a fairly big block to race round with an up-hill section so get training mate  :LolLolLolLol:


Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 05:57 PM
Johngoose,

I was convinced the E was for expert, just shows how much i know.  Got me thinking now, i always thought the expert was the poor man's cali and maybe all this time it was a cali. Might just swap that seat tube decal now, what the heck i'm going to get a supergoose decal on it.
As for the race, I don't like the sound of the uphill section, is there an alternative route?

Paddy
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bmxbob on September 25, 2009, 06:07 PM
very nice mate, just finished a Cali this week so more Goose pics to come.
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 25, 2009, 06:10 PM

As for the race, I don't like the sound of the uphill section, is there an alternative route?



No !  :police:  :LolLolLolLol:



Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 07:52 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys.
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: stevochb on September 25, 2009, 08:23 PM
bet you didnt know what you were starting when you put this post up :LolLolLolLol: nice expertcali goose by the way.
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 25, 2009, 09:09 PM
Stevochb,
I think you may have the answer there, expertcali. Wonder if i could get a decal made with that. You're right mate wasn't expecting this many replies about the bike anyway. Thanks for the comment
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Peter J on September 25, 2009, 09:19 PM
Sweet Build bud

 :4_17_5:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Daletsunami on September 25, 2009, 09:29 PM
Very nice mate, wish I never sold mine now with all these mongoose builds coming out
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: scary_leary on September 25, 2009, 10:06 PM
Sweet as... does your serial # have a dash in?
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: suts89 on September 26, 2009, 07:40 AM
Cannot beat a bit Mongoositis like  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: kdw712 on September 26, 2009, 11:07 AM
june 1985 bmx plus test

final page
shows the frame as 4130 throughout

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/mongoose%20scans/experttest4sml.jpg)


mines was a 1984 Expert - M4-C12557


these skinny rear stay non gusset frames are a norman nightmare without Orig decals  :idiot2:  ;)
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 26, 2009, 06:18 PM
Kev,

That's a great article you posted there. That is an 85 expert, do you think it applies to 83 ones aswell?

Paddy
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: kdw712 on September 27, 2009, 06:05 PM
paddy i wouldn't like to say
as its a real mine field

chances are they were just churning out frames and forks
and banging them together out the door

the whole article can be found here along with a load of other stuff

http://www.kdw712.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scans.html (http://www.kdw712.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scans.html)
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: fmx on September 27, 2009, 08:51 PM
Kev that is a great link, ta
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 27, 2009, 09:57 PM
Kev that is a great link, ta

Paddy, that's Kev's own site mate  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Spen69 on September 28, 2009, 10:36 AM
Is mongoositis air-borne?

It's worse than that mate - you can catch it through the computer screen  :shocked:

John, you of all people know it's even worse than that and you can catch it by thought alone - never underestimate the power of suggestion >:D

Paddy - that bike is a cracker mate and should be well pleased - the F&F are really clean, and the Tuffs out the box - nice touch. It looks even better in the flesh :daumenhoch:

Now get it in BoTM, get it taken for a spin down your local track and finally, get yourself down to MK next year with this one and the other 6 'geese you'll have built by next summer now you've got the bug :2funny:

Spen
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 28, 2009, 11:43 AM
june 1985 bmx plus test
final page
shows the frame as 4130 throughout

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/mongoose%20scans/experttest4sml.jpg)

mines was a 1984 Expert - M4-C12557
these skinny rear stay non gusset frames are a norman nightmare without Orig decals  :idiot2:  ;)


Just to throw fuel on the fire  :LolLolLolLol:


September 1983 BMX action test:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/expert00.jpg)


1984 mongoose catalogue:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/expert01.jpg)


1985 mongoose catalogue:

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/expert02.jpg)



 :D :-\ ??? :idiot2: :uglystupid2: :) :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: kdw712 on September 28, 2009, 12:15 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:


stick to the gussetted frames

far less complex .....

honest  ;)
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Spen69 on September 28, 2009, 12:24 PM
:LolLolLolLol:


stick to the gussetted frames

far less complex .....

honest  ;)

Just don't mention 1981.......  >:D So, is it a Supergoose, a Team, a Motomag or a Mongoose......

Discuss......

Wait, here comes JonnyGoose now with a Taxi for Spencer........ :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 28, 2009, 01:33 PM

Wait, here comes JonnyGoose now with a Taxi for Spencer........ :LolLolLolLol:


Make that a renault espaz  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Spen69 on September 28, 2009, 01:47 PM
Wait, here comes JonnyGoose now with a Taxi for Spencer........ :LolLolLolLol:
Make that a renault espaz  :coolsmiley:
..... or a battered bright red Volvo V50......... :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: bobafett on September 28, 2009, 01:55 PM
Wait, here comes JonnyGoose now with a Taxi for Spencer........ :LolLolLolLol:
Make that a renault espaz  :coolsmiley:
..... or a battered bright red Volvo V50......... :LolLolLolLol:

Full chro-mo or just the front end ?  :2funny:
Title: Re: mongoose expert finished
Post by: Spen69 on September 28, 2009, 02:49 PM
Wait, here comes JonnyGoose now with a Taxi for Spencer........ :LolLolLolLol:
Make that a renault espaz  :coolsmiley:
..... or a battered bright red Volvo V50......... :LolLolLolLol:
Full chro-mo or just the front end ?  :2funny:

Mmmm.... I can't sure. It was built in a factory on a production line where the spec changed randomly and often different parts were welded together to meet orders and finish prouction runs off, so you can never really be sure...... :angel:

I'm guessing by the amount of damage at the front end compared to the amount at the back that it's actually a chro-mo rear end - just to start another thread on here of course.......  >:D
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