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Title: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: bobafett on September 30, 2009, 11:17 PM

Got some used araya 7b's I want to have relaced to put on a rider and was wondering if I have to restore the old heavy gauge spokes or will newer light gauge spokes work just fine ?

I'm just wondering how well the nipples will fit the holes !  :shocked:  :D

 :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: bobafett on October 01, 2009, 10:04 AM

Further investigation has lead to a YES  :)

Apparantly you just need "nipple washers"  :shocked: sounds nice !  :-* :angel:

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: MartyC on October 01, 2009, 04:41 PM

7b's on a rider  :shocked:

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: bobafett on October 01, 2009, 07:28 PM

Quote from: MartyC on October 01, 2009, 04:41 PM

7b's on a rider  :shocked:

Yeah - they're not exactly what you'd call mint  ;D

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: gt0733 on October 05, 2009, 12:27 AM

my 7b's were successfully laced to these lovely 1st gen bullseye hubs with no problems. i don't recall my wheel lacer saying anything about nipple washers, although there's nothing wrong with washing nipples  :smitten:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e86/nak302/2009_0304008.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/e86/nak302/2009_0304012.jpg)

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: bobafett on October 05, 2009, 12:39 AM

Nice  :coolsmiley:

I guess it depends on the width of the nipple base whether or not you need the washers  :-\

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: Mattdub on October 05, 2009, 08:31 AM

Some early 7B's and other makes were drilled for heavy gauge spokes . I've a few sets of 7B's but all drilled for normal spokes , but I've also got the Weinmann 7B like rims and one is 2.125 & drilled for heavy gauge  ;) .

 

Title: Re: Can Araya 7b's be relaced with newer, lighter gauge spokes ?
Post by: bobafett on October 07, 2009, 08:23 PM

Matt - you've hit the nail on the head there mate - I never even gave it a thought  :uglystupid2:

The rider 7b's have been up in the loft for a year and the nice ones with the heavy gauge spokes are down in the "build room" I just assumed they would both be the same but I digged the rider ones out of the loft and they've got normal spokes even though both sets are early ones with no size stamp on the rim  ???

They both have shimano high flange hubs but the hubs on the heavy gauge jobbies are drilled larger for the heavy gauge spokes - you live and learn hey  :)

I was surprised how much weight the heavy gauge spokes add  :shocked:

I weighed the front wheel of both sets without tyres :

With heavy gauge - 1100g  :shocked:

with normal spokes - 850g  :shocked:

What a difference - glad the rider ones are the lighter ones  :LolLolLolLol:

 :daumenhoch: