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Title: New SE Stuff
Post by: muttley on October 09, 2009, 12:41 PM
Not so sure meself.

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Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 09, 2009, 12:49 PM
 A turd is a turd,polished or not.SE still not trying hard enough IMO :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: diesel on October 09, 2009, 01:48 PM
not for me thanks
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 09, 2009, 01:53 PM
I think they need to see what the guys in the retro new school are doing IMHO  ;)   :daumenhoch:

paul
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: JD_76 on October 09, 2009, 01:55 PM
I quite like the top one, if the price is right I dont see a problem with them.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: beard1973 on October 09, 2009, 01:56 PM
Nice Tyres...
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: jimmyp on October 09, 2009, 01:59 PM
I quite like the top one, if the price is right I dont see a problem with them.

Thats what i thought  :)
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Peter J on October 09, 2009, 02:03 PM
Not to sure on the "Real Tree" finish on the first PK  :-\

Love the Gold/Brown PK  :smitten:

Not keen on the Red/Blue Quad...think its the Blue Decals on the forks + the grips

Love the Blue Floval  :smitten:

Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 09, 2009, 02:20 PM
 I reckon the new dropouts/seatstay junction on the Floval/Ripper is an improvement.Don`t see the point in US bottom brackets on the loopy frames is necessary.The frames themselves aren`t too bad,just reckon the price is way too high & the components are generic crap.So near yet still so far.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: JD_76 on October 09, 2009, 02:38 PM
I reckon the new dropouts/seatstay junction on the Floval/Ripper is an improvement.Don`t see the point in US bottom brackets on the loopy frames is necessary.The frames themselves aren`t too bad,just reckon the price is way too high & the components are generic crap.So near yet still so far.

Id say that was a fair observation James, how much are these bikes new?
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 09, 2009, 02:51 PM
 Quad 24&Loopy Rippers,£600.Regular PK £450-500 & Floval £430
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: JD_76 on October 09, 2009, 03:01 PM
Quad 24&Loopy Rippers,£600.Regular PK £450-500 & Floval £430

Hmm, id say they are slightly overpriced only slightly though, £500 is too close to something like a redline flight which has a much better spec.

Id say the price point should be more near £300-350, SE could really capture that middle segment of the market instead of trying to compete with the top end.

But thats just my humble observation  ;)

Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: gobshite on October 09, 2009, 03:34 PM
hey!

i cant wait for the "pk ripper" road bike!

it'll go perfectly with my "pk ripper" tea towell and my "pk ripper" bath robe with matching slippers!

when will the "pk ripper" patio and barbecue set be dropping??

is it true that theres a Mcdonalds V's SE racing collaboration "McRipper burger"


lol,

whatever was "bmx" at SE racing is long dead.

any heritage or dignity the old company had has gone,

R.I.P SE racing.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: oldtired on October 09, 2009, 03:50 PM
was actually considering a 24 quad as a 40th present of the missus next year unsure now though, i think that color scheme spoils the look of the whole bike, 24" inches suggest a more mature owner , the dc issue is a fine example of that, as for the pk  :idiot2: its listed as metal finnish i think , supposed to look like what us noooooortheners call monkey metal ,you know the cheep sheet steel made from scrap that you put where it can't be seen , a poor choise IMO, looks like Laurence lewey bum bandit boine had go at it with scumble egg stuff and a wrag, don't mean i take i dry either just cos i know about him :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: dialledbikes on October 09, 2009, 10:59 PM
I think SE need to decide whether they're an old school/retro company or a new school/modern day company, cos at the moment they are trying to be both and not particularly excelling at either.

I think they need to recruit someone with some sense of direction cos they can't live on former glories forever.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: harris on October 09, 2009, 11:06 PM
the retrothing  for me needs ending,it was a few years back and is now over ,they and all others just need to get off the band wagon.
i think they do need to just go all out modern or forget it.yes have items of said frames resemble the past a tad but get everything bang on modern.

they might be but just dont look like they would last that long ridden hard.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: gobshite on October 10, 2009, 03:16 AM
the "pk rip-off"
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/dc-x-se-racing-pk-ripper-fixed-gear.jpg)


metal wrap, lol
yeh, very "retro"
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/SE-2010-Products-05JPG.jpg)


cash money yooooooooooooooo!
bling bling sha-bling.....
not.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/SE-2010-Products-01JPG.jpg)


what a fooking load of shit.

"SE racing..........sticking stickers on pieces of shit since 2008"


heritage my arse.

Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on October 10, 2009, 07:17 AM


i see the singlespeeds on friday, very nice, see the 29" ripper thats a hoofing great big tractor, as for the retro range the colours really aint to good, should have just kept selling the black and gold ones, how the fook todd lyons keeps his job i will never know
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Zippy on October 10, 2009, 08:32 AM
Saw them on Friday and wasn't too impressed.

Saw a BMX Legend as well. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: oldschoolib on October 10, 2009, 10:37 PM
why have they ruined what was fundamentally the bmx everyone wanted but could never afford
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 11, 2009, 08:17 AM
hhmm metal wrapped steel effect on a ali frame lol thats hideous  :crazy2: brown  :daumenhoch: baby blue  :daumenhoch: white  :daumenhoch: ball burnished  :daumenhoch: black  :daumenhoch:  these new ones  :idiot2: 
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Broggie on October 11, 2009, 09:52 AM
Well I've got a 2007 and a 2008 retro ripper, and I'm not unhappy, so where's the problem.  If you wanna buy then buy, if it aint good enough, make it good enough yourself...

Isn't that the way it always was, and if so, could the actual problem be that we are all trying too hard to become Victor Meldrew.



Ray.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: oldschoolrb on October 11, 2009, 10:00 AM
still looks well
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: generallee on October 11, 2009, 10:26 AM
disgusting pieces of sh1t.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: PK6061 on October 11, 2009, 04:30 PM
like the floval the rest look a pile of sh*t think you have to go
pre 1995 for one you can trust  :-\
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 11, 2009, 05:15 PM
like the floval the rest look a pile of sh*t think you have to go
pre 1995 for one you can trust  :-\

 The 99 ally Quads & PKs were pretty much bang on.All the SE need to do is a few small mods to those designs such as Euro bb and maybe an integrated headtube.No reason why they couldn`t do a decent steel Quad either,using thicker walled tubes for the downtubes...
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: gobshite on October 11, 2009, 06:05 PM
i said the same when they released them,
the baby blue quads were nice looking, the chrome one stidds did was spot on,
even the ripper they released was half decent,

i dont get these daft immersion wrapped thing things at all though,

and imo putting the "pk ripper" stickers on that fixie was the last straw.

the whole fixie scene is growing fast and has its own style, why do SE feel they need to rape bmx history to add to this?
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: CD17 on October 11, 2009, 06:16 PM
I think SE need to decide whether they're an old school/retro company or a new school/modern day company, cos at the moment they are trying to be both and not particularly excelling at either.

I think they need to recruit someone with some sense of direction cos they can't live on former glories forever.

I think they have decided they are going to be a lets flog this PK thing until we can't flog it no-more kind of company    ::)
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 11, 2009, 07:31 PM
i said the same when they released them,
the baby blue quads were nice looking, the chrome one stidds did was spot on,
even the ripper they released was half decent,

i dont get these daft immersion wrapped thing things at all though,

and imo putting the "pk ripper" stickers on that fixie was the last straw.

the whole fixie scene is growing fast and has its own style, why do SE feel they need to rape bmx history to add to this?

your right about  that fixie joe, the fixed gear scene is spot on, most use old 60's and 70's steel frames , there's some nice modern fixies, but se got it wrong with that one, a waste of ripper decals imho just trying to get in on the fixie action i guess .

paul
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: muttley on October 11, 2009, 08:15 PM
hey!

i cant wait for the "pk ripper" road bike!

it'll go perfectly with my "pk ripper" tea towell and my "pk ripper" bath robe with matching slippers!

when will the "pk ripper" patio and barbecue set be dropping??

is it true that theres a Mcdonalds V's SE racing collaboration "McRipper burger"


lol,

whatever was "bmx" at SE racing is long dead.

any heritage or dignity the old company had has gone,

R.I.P SE racing.
   :LolLolLolLol:

Saw them on Friday and wasn't too impressed.

Saw a BMX Legend as well. :daumenhoch:
  Yeah i heard Trev was there.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: oldschoolib on October 11, 2009, 11:17 PM
god i wosh it was 1985 again bikes were good and it was a riot watching my bro win every moto he entered
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: oldtired on October 13, 2009, 02:20 AM
bump    an old  one just spotted this floval on one of the other forums   , sure you'll guess where its from , not sure about the grips though  :LolLolLolLol:


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ff98/jimjdld/bmx/7230_150307158144_684238144_2591928.jpg)
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: gobshite on October 13, 2009, 02:25 AM
what the fook is that?


does it come with a waltzer and funhouse attached?

"HOOOOOOOLD ON GIRLS......................FAST RIDE!"
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: dialledbikes on October 13, 2009, 08:53 AM
Oh dear.  Shit like that is what happens when people start treating BMX bikes as collectables and fashion accessories  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: telelogic on October 13, 2009, 09:11 AM
I'm a huge fan of the se retro's but I have to say that the new paint jobs are terrible!

and they seem intent on getting the same things wrong year in year out!

dose anybody actually race these things? If not get rid of the V brake mounts and give us some U brake mounts!

Internal headset wouldn't go amiss either!
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 13, 2009, 09:14 AM
im sure se still make there modern race rippers ? my 05 had a internal headset and euro BB as did the pro model, i prefer the newer based models with retro style graphics, ols is old new is new, retro style is ok, with modern technology .



paul
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Peter J on October 13, 2009, 09:20 AM
The 07 Floval has internal headset  ???
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 13, 2009, 09:31 AM
All the newer "race" Rippers and Flovals have internal h/sets & Euro bb,just the loopy Ripper and Quad that don`t.Maybe they`d be more NS race friendly if they did? As someone mentioned before,SE are trying to be both retro and race and not excelling at either...
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Zippy on October 13, 2009, 01:09 PM
I did meet Trev quite a few times actually, But the legend I was reffering to was none other that Mr Pete Mosley. BMXing legend if ever there was. Even if he does stand you up in a field in Milton Keynes.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Dingobmxer on October 14, 2009, 06:37 AM
I LOVE SE  :smitten:

but this year those are sh1t!!!

No wonder Jai has jumped ship to Redline

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Stodgy on October 14, 2009, 10:09 AM
SE have one of the finest back catalogues of bikes and colour schemes to pull from - so why the fook are they developing schemes that (a) never exisited? and (b) look like they should be in a Las Vegas whores wardrobe?

I'm absolutely gob-smacked that this is allowed to continue on when everyone around Todd is advising to stick to the OS colourways and he's doing his own thing.  :idiot2:

Oh well, sales will reflect this in 2010.



Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: crazycraig on October 14, 2009, 10:15 AM
I take it the radbmx shop with NOT be selling these lines then ?

TBH i am mildly fond of the dollor design
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Peter J on October 14, 2009, 10:28 AM
(b) look like they should be in a Las Vegas whores wardrobe?

 :2funny: :2funny:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Zippy on October 14, 2009, 10:56 AM
To be honest though that's all SE is these days, a retro company. They're just trading on their glory days from years gone by.
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Stodgy on October 14, 2009, 11:02 AM
I take it the radbmx shop with NOT be selling these lines then ?

TBH i am mildly fond of the dollor design

We're an SE Dealer, so yep we will be selling them if anyone wants them...but it's unlikely we'll be stocking them in the showroom.

Saying that, there are a couple of bikes in the range which are okay...the So Cal in the ball burnished looks okay and the Lil Ripper in white is good too.

The Dollar wrap is cool in so much as the technology involved in putting it on, and those OM's are actually quite nice to ride.

Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: brass monkey! on October 14, 2009, 11:06 AM
they'll be selling these in Halfords and Toys R us next............. :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: muttley on October 14, 2009, 12:36 PM
Jesse should know better?

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ff98/jimjdld/bmx/7230_150307158144_684238144_2591928.jpg)
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Zippy on October 14, 2009, 01:13 PM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: crazycraig on October 14, 2009, 01:25 PM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Mattdub on October 14, 2009, 01:58 PM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:

x2  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: brass monkey! on October 14, 2009, 02:04 PM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:

x2  :LolLolLolLol:

X3  :D
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 15, 2009, 10:09 AM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:

x2  :LolLolLolLol:

X3  :D

x4 but i think he is given the other guy a BJ  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: Mattdub on October 15, 2009, 10:37 AM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:

x2  :LolLolLolLol:

X3  :D

x4 but i think he is given the other guy a BJ  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:

 :2funny:

Zippy seems drawn to that part of the pic !
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: zed4130 on October 15, 2009, 11:15 AM
Looks like the 2 guys at the back of that picture are in the process of throwing up after looking at the Floval.  :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
F£$k me your eyes are good  :LolLolLolLol:

x2  :LolLolLolLol:

X3  :D

x4 but i think he is given the other guy a BJ  ;)   :LolLolLolLol:

 :2funny:

Zippy seems drawn to that part of the pic !

i think it is zippy at the back  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: New SE Stuff
Post by: diesel on October 15, 2009, 02:59 PM
Nah.... I think they're just sniggering because they told Jesse it looked great as he was spraying it......  ::)
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