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New School BMX 2004 - Now => New School Park, Street & Dirt => Topic started by: Wadz on October 12, 2009, 08:40 PM
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been riding old skool freestyle bikes for a few years , now thinking of building a new skool bike, not sure what frame ,forks, wheels etc etc ....... to get ,
rode a couple of N/S bike and they were as heavy as fook, are they all like this compaired to O/S bikes ,
i'm hoping this new machine will be easy to do some good flatland/ park tricks on.
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No New Skools are as Light As F-ck ;)
I had a 2004 Haro Master & that thing was heavy :( but over the last few years they have got lighter & lighter, my 09 United is very light, almost as light as an Old Skool TA or something similar + they are 100 times better to ride & stronger.
You can get some really good deals on complete's 8)
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Have a chat with Stodgy in the radshop, he`ll sort you out a good deal :daumenhoch:
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What he said. :daumenhoch:
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lighter than fook?
how much does your average O/S bike weigh :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/tipan018.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/tipan009.jpg)
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Fk that is Light :shocked:
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call me a old git but wheres the brakes or dos it have a coaster hub
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call me a old git but wheres the brakes or dos it have a coaster hub
You not seen invisible brakes before ?
;D
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Brakes?
Sole of foot against rear tyre!
The infamous Ti Reaper, just out of interest what did it ride like?
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The infamous Ti Reaper, just out of interest what did it ride like?
very nice, if a bit squirrelly ???
fooking zipped forward when you pedalled!!
not strong enough for me in the long run though :knuppel2:
who wants to break a $1000 frame eh :LolLolLolLol:
only girls use brakes ::)
what new N/S bikes did you try wadz?
most of the completes that are out atm are around 25lbs which isnt bad for a bike thats twice as strong as an old-school ride,
and it will ride WAY much better,
as said before in this thread, stodgy at the radbmx shop knows his onions have a look at the fit/wtp/subrosa completes,
how tall are you?
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just been looking at the completes, they all seem around 25lbs , gona see what my streetbeat and reflex tops out at ,
i'm 6ft 2"
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try a £350 fit and a £300 mongoose, when i tried to do a little bunny hop tail whip i nearly rip my arms out of there sockets.
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'6 "2 - i'd put you on at least a "21 toptube
"21.25 would be ideal :daumenhoch:
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Don't be deceived into thinking that the new bikes are heavier than the old bikes just because you couldn't get it off the ground - the geometry is so, so different you really can't compare the two.
Forget about the odd pound in weight here and there - it doesn't mean shit really.
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good advice all round here.
my new school ride (2009 Dirt Bike, 5lb+ 21" frame, I'm 6' 2") is probably heavier than my TA, however it is a zillion (that's just an estimate) times stronger and rides really nice.
a 25lb bike will feel great once you get used to it! and if you're a weight weenie and think you'll ride better if it's lighter
you can always upgrade some parts, straight away some light kevlar beaded tyres will make a difference.....(or a TotalBMX frame. :-X)
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as said by JT71 and Twobob......it will feel totally diferent to start with, but by the end of a days riding it will be the other way round, all the old school bikes will feel horrible in comparison :daumenhoch:
christ i don't even know what my NS bike weighs, but i'm still shyte on it :2funny: :2funny: but just fall in love with it all over again as soon as i ride it :smitten:
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but just fall in love with it all over again as soon as i ride it :smitten:
I'm like that with you Pickle! :-*
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def feels dif getting on a ns bike,the weight dif is what does me in every time i attempt to do anything i feel like im going to come off the back off it.
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i race old school bike that weighs 24.5 lbs and it feels good .but and this is big but
my new schol weighs 28lbs and feels so much faster steadier and i can asctually jump higher and further on that than on the less weighted ride and its so much easier to control /ride .weight feels odd for bit but eventually the better geometry and bike design make it beter to ride and feel less heavy .
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I must say i am not a big fan on light bikes at the mo, been riding my Hoffman N/S which is a heavy old beast, got straight on my Haro racer with carbons for the 1st time in a week and jumped the step up at my track and pushed to much on the bars causing me to nose manual and falling off. done both my knees in and i regret it all! >:(
I must say, i rode my friends United Supreme BL and its just under 25lbs and it rides a treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat :smitten:
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causing me to nose manual and falling off. done both my knees in and i regret it all! >:(
time spent with hands on grips is golden...but time spent picking grit out of wounds is pretty good too!
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Luckily i had race pants on! got no grit in my wounds which i was dead pleased with! i dred that... Right knee had stiffened up big time, can't walk properly and will probibly be out of riding for a tad of time >:(
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causing me to nose manual and falling off. done both my knees in and i regret it all! >:(
time spent with hands on grips is golden...but time spent picking grit out of wounds is pretty good too!
Especially when they`re someone else`s wounds :daumenhoch:
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causing me to nose manual and falling off. done both my knees in and i regret it all! >:(
time spent with hands on grips is golden...but time spent picking grit out of wounds is pretty good too!
Especially when they`re someone else`s wounds :daumenhoch:
oh yeah man, that's up there with squeezing someone else's spots! :daumenhoch:
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SteevB on here, Pm him
Or of course as said before, a man with your needs at heart, rad's own Mr Stodgey :daumenhoch:
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.....(or a TotalBMX frame. :-X)
I thought you'd moved on :LolLolLolLol:
Come up to the dungeon, I will rub something into the wounds :-*
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.....(or a TotalBMX frame. :-X)
I thought you'd moved on :LolLolLolLol:
Come up to the dungeon, I will rub something into the wounds :-*
I have moved on sir....honestly! Total is nothing to do with Unknown.....also honestly. :daumenhoch:
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Don't be deceived into thinking that the new bikes are heavier than the old bikes just because you couldn't get it off the ground - the geometry is so, so different you really can't compare the two.
Forget about the odd pound in weight here and there - it doesn't mean shit really.
Absolutely Rob.
They are very different. OS freestyle bikes (performer, trickstar, etc) were all around the 26-28lbs mark...and the majority of 2010 completes are lower than that.
What you'll find different is that the lower end of the market are targetted towards smaller kids, so you'll find smaller bars, short top tubes and lower front ends. At you height, you need to look at at least a 21" top tube (as others have said).
The best bike with a long tt on a budget is the Kink Gap XL...21" TT, 26lbs and only £349! Bargain.
Oh and upgrade to a top loader stem 53mm reach or more. And when you can add a pivitol seat and post and you'll loose around 1.5lbs off the weight. Sorted.
Give me a bell and I can hook you up.
http://www.radbmxshop.co.uk/shop/article_387.001/Kink-Gap-XL-**2010**.html'shop_param=cid%3D39%26aid%3D387.001%26
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cheers for the advise, defo something to think about , just got to convince mi women
i need another bike , ;D
a nice bottle of wine and some flowers should do the trick :daumenhoch: