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Title: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Mattdub on March 13, 2006, 09:14 PM
 :wtf:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7224997087&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: oberonspacefruit on March 13, 2006, 09:15 PM
pffftttt...............
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: danny silverstreak on March 13, 2006, 09:16 PM
hhhmmmmmmmm
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Post by: theRuler on March 13, 2006, 09:16 PM
lol
numberplates.
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 13, 2006, 09:18 PM
£245 lmfao . it makes a mockery of money lol

Rich :)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: aditup2004 on March 13, 2006, 09:21 PM
Thats just fookin PATHETIC.  :LolLolLolLol: LOL, HUTCH! guess there's no chrome to fall off that though.  :-\ :2funny: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Moose on March 13, 2006, 09:24 PM
That's a nice plate. I'd give ya 245 for it........





































PENCE!! :2funny: :2funny: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: lazychubs on March 13, 2006, 09:38 PM
i had ahuge off on vintage cos i said i didnt agree tp paying
stupid money for a bit of plastic
the numpty got all persy on me the prick
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: aditup2004 on March 13, 2006, 09:47 PM
I am sorry for not being that anal, but how many "perfect" copies can £250 buy? Quite a few me thinks. ANAL? Have a word!  :10_2_12:  :LolLolLolLol: Ad
Title: Hutch Numberplate !!!!
Post by: Nosnod on March 13, 2006, 09:49 PM
 :o :o :o :o
The big hitters from the US are out in force for this one!

Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Frosty on March 13, 2006, 10:20 PM
No offence, but I thin k it looks shite anyway!
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: jT Racing on March 13, 2006, 10:32 PM
it's all about showing out/off at rockford. :Aresehole: 's
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Flaz on March 13, 2006, 11:42 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: give it another 10 years it will be worth a £10  (MUGS!)  :idiot2:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Coastvl on March 14, 2006, 10:04 AM
Have you seen how much a NOS Haro series 1 gets? About the same or more. Still ridiculous either way. I'm glad I kept mine. Both of them! :P
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: jimmyp on March 14, 2006, 12:31 PM
No offence, but I thin k it looks shite anyway!

Me too :o :o :o
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Bob_Acid on March 14, 2006, 06:15 PM
isn't the high bidder the guy that's knocking people on os?
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Post by: Bigplinky on March 14, 2006, 06:54 PM
The funny bit will be if he's got a box full of them to put on the bay over the next few months
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Moose on March 14, 2006, 07:39 PM
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The funny bit will be if he's got a box full of them to put on the bay over the next few months

Now that would be interesting ;D
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Mattdub on March 14, 2006, 08:29 PM
It's going up  :wtf:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: stidds on March 14, 2006, 10:35 PM
Finish at £469 the world has gone mad.
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: gregster on March 15, 2006, 09:02 AM
£469.00 fora number plate.  :wtf:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 15, 2006, 09:33 AM
unbelievable - absolutely unbelievable. I cant believe some septic has just dropped a bit short of 1000 dollars for a numberplate.

Hutch is crap too.

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: gmac on March 15, 2006, 09:41 AM
Hutch smutch
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: jimmyp on March 15, 2006, 10:03 AM
£469 crazy fools :D :D :D :D where do we go from here??????????????????????? :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 15, 2006, 10:44 AM
it does not suprise me tbo , this stuff is rare and if you look at other things that are rare then a lot of old bmx is still way cheap.

£15,000 for a stamp anyone
£ 3000 for a pair of old levis anyone
£ 35,000 for an old comic anyone

Ok it needs the people coming into the scene to make this kind of price realistic but can you say  900 members in a year and rising

supply and demand , truly at work

Rich
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Bigplinky on March 15, 2006, 10:58 AM
Hutch is crap too.

Back off the HUTCH, quality may have been a bit wayward at times but overall it's class gear (apart from the cranks which granted are crap).

Andy
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: theRuler on March 15, 2006, 10:59 AM
well thats set the marker for numberplates
not bothered about crap like that, but when these stupid prices occur on stuff that is good, its a bit of a kick in the nuts to the average old schooler who just wants to build up an old haro or a TA for fun

the stupid prices will kill this hobby off in the long run

then value of stuff will plummet
and i will still be there . . .  and buy it all up at a good rate. same as before. and the time before that
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 15, 2006, 11:07 AM
Usually I'll listen to a good argument, but not this time - Hutch is pants, and overpriced pants too. Period.
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 15, 2006, 11:58 AM
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the stupid prices will kill this hobby off in the long run

have to disagree , it just means that the small quantity of stuff that comes up for sale will cost more , most on here have a nice little collection going, and yea people who cant afford this stuff will have to go on wanting but has high prices stopped people collecting VWs or other classic cars , and high prices mean that the hobby can self fund itself pretty well

Rich :)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: jimmyp on March 15, 2006, 12:01 PM
Agree, there's no going back to the good old days with this. alot of you should count yourselfs lucky you got in at the start. Think about the people who are just getting involved :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 15, 2006, 01:03 PM
Yep ,if you have at least one cool ride you are doing well IMHO because by the time this is at its peak you will be one of the lucky ones

Rich
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on March 15, 2006, 01:16 PM
The prices of stuff go up and down all the time, i for one aint bothered at all as i have now got all i need and am not a collector, so theres one person less to bid against, the prices vary as much in whos building what at what time and how desperatly quick an item is needed, usually the last bit of a build, overall i think prices for f/f (rippers, ta's, for example) are pretty constant and even dip suprisingly, prices are governed by fads i reckon, look at the interest in burner stuff at mo, its roundabouts n swings, always will be
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 15, 2006, 01:34 PM
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The prices of stuff go up and down all the time, i for one aint bothered at all as i have now got all i need and am not a collector, so theres one person less to bid against, the prices vary as much in whos building what at what time and how desperatly quick an item is needed, usually the last bit of a build, overall i think prices for f/f (rippers, ta's, for example) are pretty constant and even dip suprisingly, prices are governed by fads i reckon, look at the interest in burner stuff at mo, its roundabouts n swings, always will be 

The prices are steadily going up ,yes annual fluctuations occur , normally round xmas and summer holiday time. But aero pros can not and i think never will be able to be bought for 40 quid ever again, they went to 100 and then to 200 now they are at about 400 quid for a full bike

Rippers will never be 100 quid again

Tas will never be 90 quid again

prices are rising and will continue to do so untill the arse falls out the scene , I say 4/5 years from now if we still have interest its going to be around for a long time, if it drops off in the next 2 years then its going to dive

but who cares , i love my bikes now , and i will love them then

Rich
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: theRuler on March 15, 2006, 02:11 PM
the cost of old VW's doesnt rise like the cost of bike stuff is currently doing now!

i'm glad more people are into collecting the old school bikes
i like the fact that it becomes a gateway for people to start riding again

the more people (my age) that ride then the more chance i have of having someone to ride with.
at the start of this century i only knew of a couple of people who were entusiastic enough to ride. in the mid nineties i had half a dozen or so riding buddies.
now with this old bmx collecting bringing people our age together i know more riders now than in the past ten years or so put together

the prices of parts rising doesnt really effect me too much. (ebay aint the only place to get your os bmx fix)
but in the long run it will stop some oldies getting back on a bike.
at the epic jam i am thinking instead of bringing show n shine bikes, i'll just bring a couple of riders. then a spectator can use my spare bike
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: dordymush on March 15, 2006, 02:25 PM
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at the epic jam i am thinking instead of bringing show n shine bikes, i'll just bring a couple of riders. then a spectator can use my spare bike

thats a good idea for anybody how has a spare rider  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Bigplinky on March 15, 2006, 05:42 PM
Must admit that current prices have put me off Old school collecting anymore. I've just got enough parts to put the 4 old schoolers I've got together and once they are done I'll be happy, their are lots of other bikes I would like but I'm not paying silly money for the privilage. ROLL ON THE PRICE CRASH ;D

Just going to concentrate on riding now get an mid school OS legal racer togther (and a new schooler) then thrash the Teets off them till me bodies totally fooked (which won't be long).
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on March 16, 2006, 10:26 AM

prices are rising and will continue to do so untill the arse falls out the scene , I say 4/5 years from now if we still have interest its going to be around for a long time, if it drops off in the next 2 years then its going to dive

but who cares , i love my bikes now , and i will love them then

Rich
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the 4/5 years prediction is spot on i reckon, the majority of these bikes are bein bought by people who had them BITD and are still of an age to get away with enjoyin them, the huge price surge at the moment is definately fuelled by Radbmx, (a victim of its own success) 902 members! most of which only got the itch from finding this site, but thats a lot of new compitition for the fewer parts that are left. If the buyin stuff you rode BITD theory is right and most interest is gained when your in your thirties and have a bit of cash to witter on wants rather than needs, then the early mid/school stuff should start becoming more sought after as that generation start lookin for their old rides, the mid/school bargains are out there dudes but predictin what's gonna be sought after before prices go up is gonna be the biggest headache.

or am i talking crap? :)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 16, 2006, 11:09 AM
I disagree with the 90's theory - BMX was never as popular in the 90's as it was in the 80's. I reckon the 90's generation are looking to collect Nintendo's and other games consoles. Bikes had come and gone by then, for the mainstream at least.

This price drop prediction is heavily based on the fact that all those who are looking for parts now will not be looking, and all those who own bikes will want to sell them. Not a sound basis for the theory, i'm afraid. From my point of view, I have spent a fair amount of cash on my collection, and there is no way I am going to let any of it got for the sake of getting rid of it - I wouldnt sell any of it now, and I can get good prices on some of the stuff I have got, so what on earth would i want to get rid of it for less for.

I am not alone here - there are loads of collectors here with as much, if not much more than me, who no doubt feel the same.

In an ironic twist of feat though - Eline lightning bolt seats, a year ago, over 200 - 250 bucks - today, BIN 49 bucks. Maybe prices arent going wildly out of control after all.
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Post by: gmac on March 16, 2006, 11:20 AM
Hmmm, that is a twist of feat  ;D
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 16, 2006, 12:31 PM
Oops - i meant fete!

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: theRuler on March 16, 2006, 12:38 PM
Oops - i meant fete!

 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

a twist of fete?

 :)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: ORB on March 16, 2006, 12:53 PM
I dont give a rats what happens to the value, I am gonna win the lotto on saturday so i dont much care :)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: gmac on March 16, 2006, 01:00 PM
Don't suppose you mean fate do you, Rainman ?


 :2funny:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: theRuler on March 16, 2006, 01:01 PM
I dont give a rats what happens to the value, I am gonna win the lotto on saturday so i dont much care :)

i bet you an ayrton that you dont
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Bigplinky on March 16, 2006, 01:06 PM

In an ironic twist of feat though - Eline lightning bolt seats, a year ago, over 200 - 250 bucks - today, BIN 49 bucks. Maybe prices arent going wildly out of control after all.

I think the price of Elina lightning bolts is more the work of pirates yer can't tell me that a container full of black seats has been left minty fresh in the far east for that long and has only just been discovered now (and only in black). But I think this brings in the next big trend for OS bmx which is repro's. The classic motorcycle world has had repro performance and replacement parts for years it's just part of the scene now as there is no way you can get some of the old parts anymore without reproing them. The big question for OS BMX I think is is it OK to have repro's that are indistinguishable from the real thing (devaluing the real thing) or should they be dated  / marked differently, Personally I think been identical is OK but it's then buyer beware on quality and price.

Andy
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on March 16, 2006, 04:34 PM
I disagree with the 90's theory - BMX was never as popular in the 90's as it was in the 80's. I reckon the 90's generation are looking to collect Nintendo's and other games consoles. Bikes had come and gone by then, for the mainstream at least.

Bollox! the scene was even bigger up here in the 90's, loads of scruffy scrotes in herds swarming around the towns memorials and ridin hard dude, just coz it wasnt on the telly doesnt mean it wasnt popular.  And as i said and you verified "This price drop prediction is heavily based on the fact that all those who are looking for parts now will not be looking" and then the next generation take over from where this one left off.  i like and buy cars i thought were cool when i wasw a kid, my dad bought cars he thought were cool when he was a kid, each generation will create thier own classics and price s will represent this as time goes on.

ive got five bikes and in all i have spent well under a grand on them, just by biding my time and knowing a bargain and building bikes that are up for the job and feel right for my riding.
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Post by: jimmyp on March 16, 2006, 04:52 PM
Only time will tell but it's going to be interesting to find out ;) ;) :) :)
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Post by: retrorider.u.k on March 16, 2006, 05:25 PM
at least its been sold to someone who wants it and not gone in a skip.it may only be plastic but rare items whatever they are, cost.the salad days on buying items have gone.i think complete bikes will see substantial price rises as the parts run dry   ;)
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 16, 2006, 07:14 PM
Tell you what, Gmac - you can really go off someone, cant you!!!

Fate indeed. I just couldnt get that.

I think I have taken the "rekindle my youth" thing a bit far - now I am concentrating more on my BMX's that on my spelling.

Tipycal!!!
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Rombloke on March 16, 2006, 07:39 PM
i did mention the other month that prices were going out of hand a bit.
myself and waxin have had many an indepth msn conversation about os parts, and their prices.
as rich haas already said, its all about supply and demand.....garuntee that bloke has a b ox of those little puppies and releases em every two months or so...lol..

anyway pete quad, neil, jono and radman have all the good stuff, so i blame them

BASTARDS

Dave
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: jT Racing on March 16, 2006, 07:52 PM
i did mention the other month that prices were going out of hand a bit.
myself and waxin have had many an indepth msn conversation about os parts, and their prices.
as rich haas already said, its all about supply and demand.....garuntee that bloke has a b ox of those little puppies and releases em every two months or so...lol..

anyway pete quad, neil, jono and radman have all the good stuff, so i blame them

BASTARDS

Dave
:LolLolLolLol:
haas,  type that in the translator with it set to dutch, dave.
sorry, but it looks funny to me :-X

until we all die(and i believe we are all 30+ to 40+ exclucing oliver) there will be a demand for old school stuff. Sons tend to follow dads in collections too. If you are buying them as an investment then you better go to a financial adviser and get some proper help. Buy it cause you want/love it. Be happy and peace dudes.  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: Waxintaxin on March 16, 2006, 09:56 PM
too right my dutch living friend , if you buy this stuff to invest , then you are possibly going to regret it , but if you spend your hard earned cash cos you love and cherrish the bikes and you want to enjoy the things , then its all good

I have seen prices rise steadily for the last 4 years and see no sign of it stopping, and whos to say that in 10 years this stuff maybe worth as much as some other memrobilia , comics is a great example. but it may not and its a risky bussiness putting money into something only as an investment rather than you really want to own something that means something.

I belive we are at the stage when a lot of people are thinking this stuff is too expensive comments are made all the time about how much things are fetching , because it was cheaper last year , but i think it has a way to go yet , just my opinion , for whats its worth.

I can only judge what this stuff is worth ( or rather what people are prepared to pay) by the reaction i get from people who dont know the scene and dont know what stuff has sold for previously

I will not sell another thing , cos i regret everything i sell so price has little meaning for me anymore , although i do want to enjoy a few more restos , it just menas i have to do them slower so i can afford them.

Rich   
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: subwax on March 17, 2006, 01:45 AM
I wonder if there is a direct correlation between the price rise and the rate at which new members join sites like Rad.
Title: Re: I'm guessing a few are watching this ?
Post by: OrgasmDonor on March 17, 2006, 12:46 PM

(quote) the huge price surge at the moment is definately fuelled by Radbmx, (a victim of its own success) 902 members! most of which only got the itch from finding this site, but thats a lot of new compitition for the fewer parts that are left.

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i wonder?
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