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Title: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: beard1973 on October 21, 2009, 09:37 AM
You may look at this wheel and think.. "Ah yes... its an Araya 7X".

Well you would be right, but this aint just any old Araya 7X, this 'actual' wheel was removed from one ANDY RUFFELL's bikes at a race meeting in the 80's.

I've been given this piece of Team Raleigh memorabilia by Darren Wood, whose Dad (as you will all know) was Team Manager of the Raleigh BMX Team.

The rim itself is sporting a few 'wounds' and has a nice flat spot (which is why it was removed).

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/Ruffell_Wheel001.jpg)

But its the hub that interest me.. Campagnolo Record...  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/Ruffell_Wheel002.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/vv233/burnerworld4/Ruffell_Wheel003.jpg)

I'm gonna mount this up and display it with my bike collection.

Thanks Darren...  :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley: :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Darren Wood on October 21, 2009, 03:00 PM
No worries Dave  ;) ................. Couldn"t think of a better home for it !  Other than Mr A RUFFELL esq


Nice one WOODY  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: MartyC on October 21, 2009, 04:00 PM
Cool stuff, I remember watching Ruff bend and break many parts bitd; mostly before he was famous  ;D. 
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: beard1973 on October 21, 2009, 04:03 PM
Someone has asked if I am gonna clean it up...? NOT A CHANCE...

That there grime is BMX history....  8)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Gashead on October 21, 2009, 04:20 PM
I'd frame it, however I'm also sad  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: beard1973 on October 21, 2009, 04:26 PM
Its gonna be framed.  :coolsmiley: I'm also that sad..
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: sweetbeats on October 21, 2009, 04:28 PM
Cool that....Get a perspex case for it like a museum piece  :)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Gashead on October 21, 2009, 04:30 PM
Glad I'm not sad alone then Dave  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: zed4130 on October 21, 2009, 04:37 PM
thats cool dave, i loved campag hubs and headsets back in the early 90's ,had them on most of my road bikes and mtb's , sadly the japs came in and took it over , think they did this a few times in history lol  :LolLolLolLol:  nice bit of raleigh history, it went to the right bloke  ;)

paul
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: stumpy on October 21, 2009, 05:36 PM
A bit more history for ya Dave, This wheel was more than likely built for Andy by Tony Fannon of Grimsteads cycles in East Ham London, where both Kev (Kai) Riviere and my self worked. Andy used to get his wheels built there. Kev can prob tell ya more.


Stumpy
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: MartyC on October 21, 2009, 05:51 PM
Would love to see the "new" Supergoose that Ruffs broke at Birmingham Wheels on its first outing not quite clearing the doubles on the back straight  ;D.  You could hear Sue Jarvis ranting at 500m  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: kevin (A.K.A) kai riviere on October 21, 2009, 05:55 PM
i would most definately know. both andy & craigs wheels were laced & built by myself & those hubs were polished to an almost chrome finish then lacquered
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: kevin (A.K.A) kai riviere on October 21, 2009, 05:58 PM
that's kind of ironic really cos she never made a noise when pete middleton done his earlier in the day
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: kdubbmx on October 21, 2009, 07:03 PM
I've still got Stu Thompsons wheels from his 81 race bike here with Campag record hubs too. Lovely piece of kit those hubs!!   :)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: hunterdubber on October 21, 2009, 07:26 PM
Bloody hell I stripped down an Araya 7X rear built up with a Campagnolo hub around 3 months ago  ???

Wonder if it belonged to any famous Pro rider, Must've belonged to someone who took their racing seriously with the choice of hubs  ::)

Still got the hub if anyones interested or needs to make a pair up  :)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Darren Wood on October 21, 2009, 07:34 PM
This wheel would have been built buy a fella called GARETH JONES he owned a small bike shop in WINSOR called JONES THE BIKE


He built my wheels when i rode for PROLITE and he also built all the DIAMOND BACK riders wheels  ;) this Would have been 1985
so my DAD was the MANAGER of raleigh and he also got the wheels built for the team there during the 85 and 86 Seasons :4_17_5:


Anyway just like to say high to KEV and say hello to Mike got some old photos of you and Mike back in the day Outwell 83 Isle of man 83 and the euros 83 And got one of you Kev 85 / 86 hounslow SUPERCLASS (ASR DAYS ) BEATING Nicky and Darrin stock



Hope your well WOODY :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: kevin (A.K.A) kai riviere on October 22, 2009, 03:19 PM
Oi Oi Darren  :daumenhoch:, good to have you back, so when are we going to see you back on the gate  :knuppel2:? will definately say hi to mike for you, he'll be pleased to hear from you after all this time, as am I. Would've contacted you much earlier but didn't think you'd remember me. i've been back on the scene since july this year & loving it, brings back some very fond memories. do you have any plans to throw a leg over a saddle & hit the track?
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: fouronethreeoh! on October 24, 2009, 08:46 AM
Probably off this then  :)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk42/fouronethreeoh/norwich/norwich10.jpg't=1256370551)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on October 24, 2009, 09:43 AM


good move darren, you gotta get rid of ya sh1t somewhere
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: beard1973 on October 24, 2009, 10:55 AM


good move darren, you gotta get rid of ya sh1t somewhere

He was gonna take it to his local 'landfill' site but apparently he was turned away... too many GT's been dumped so they are struggling for space.  :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Darren Wood on December 20, 2012, 04:09 PM


good move darren, you gotta get rid of ya sh1t somewhere

He was gonna take it to his local 'landfill' site but apparently he was turned away... too many GT's been dumped so they are struggling for space.  :knuppel2: :knuppel2:
Great reply Dave  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Devilock on December 20, 2012, 04:22 PM
Cool piece of BMX history.
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: kungfunky on December 20, 2012, 07:44 PM
Cool stuff, what did you do with it Dave ?

theres something very special about owning something from a pro. Bike, bike part, clothing etc, I'm lucky enough to have some very cool vintage SE stuff from some of the pro's back then.  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: teamsano on December 26, 2012, 11:35 PM
what was so goos about the campy hubs, they weren't even sealed were they?

on a related note, ruffs crashed at a race at my local track and snapped the peak of his moto 4, i grabbed it an d peeled the 'bell' sticker off and have it stuck to a cassette box somewhere.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: bobbbbsy on December 26, 2012, 11:44 PM
the big deal about campagnolo hubs is decades of experience designing hubs that spin like a dream and r&d done real time in the real world! this obviously came in handy for bmx racing ! wow, not sealed ! must be shit then! :buck2:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on December 27, 2012, 12:11 AM
great thread, and as you say a fantastic piece of bmx history. Love the pic of him getting ready by the car. His car?
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: caledoniancruiser on December 27, 2012, 08:51 PM
Just spied this,
also agree that this is a great bit of history for british bmx,
also agree that the pic with the 'scort is 'kin minted!
I am sure there was more similiar pics on here from that day,
cannae beat an Aero Pro, and an old Ford in the same pic, in my book anyway. 8)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: deeman on December 28, 2012, 01:21 AM
'scort or Capri?? :-\
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: caledoniancruiser on December 29, 2012, 08:59 PM
Probably off this then  :)


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/kk42/fouronethreeoh/norwich/norwich10.jpg't=1256370551)

Guys, sorry to be a pain,
but i remember seeing more pics from that day ,on here.
Done a search, but to no avail  :-[
Anyone got a link please.
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: dan-dare on December 29, 2012, 09:11 PM
what was so goos about the campy hubs, they weren't even sealed were they?

Why use that road crap, when Suzue or Suntour are mechanically far superior?

Nice bit of history though, Dave.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: steve69 on December 29, 2012, 10:13 PM
Nice history but can someone explain the logic behind the way the spokes are laced  :-\ 

Why are the spokes all on the outside of the hub when they haven't got recesses (like SST hubs) to cater for the spokes overlapping. Resulting in bent spokes.
Can't see how many times the spokes cross the others, but seem to be so many times that they are bent around the radius of the hub flange. Resulting in bent spokes in another direction.
And from the pic's they don't look to be interlaced, or is that because of the above?

Lets hear some wise words from the wheel builders on here.
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: T WILD on December 30, 2012, 09:26 PM
'scort or Capri?? :-\

Deffo mk 3 escort xr31 with the rs kit and a couple of other choice period mods  :D
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: 4416 on January 01, 2013, 06:13 PM
Spoke up in a manky way due to it being a converted track hub ? ( and suzue hubs ect were cheap copys of the low end campy stuff)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Jaan on January 02, 2013, 11:23 AM
Dont know about the rest of you but when you first look at the photo of Andy, just for a split second do you think he's checking his phone?
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: teamsano on January 03, 2013, 12:21 AM
the big deal about campagnolo hubs is decades of experience designing hubs that spin like a dream and r&d done real time in the real world! this obviously came in handy for bmx racing ! wow, not sealed ! must be shit then! :buck2:

i never said they were shit, i just wondered what was so good about them.

unsealed hubs never match sealed for smoothness, especially when racing on dirty and dusty track conditions which would require cleaning and adjusting after short periods. i'm sure the precious 'r+d' you mention never took bmx tracks into consideration.due to this and the fact that most folk don't have the patience to fart about with unsealed hubs i feel unsealed hubs are downright dangerous.

but thanks for your input, now get back to your couch.
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: hunterdubber on January 03, 2013, 11:36 AM
Dont know about the rest of you but when you first look at the photo of Andy, just for a split second do you think he's checking his phone?



If he was it would be bigger than than that bloody  helmet  :LolLolLolLol:


(http://www.orange.co.uk/images/editorial/dom_mobile_4aug08_wenn_350.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: 58 delray on January 22, 2013, 05:38 PM
the big deal about campagnolo hubs is decades of experience designing hubs that spin like a dream and r&d done real time in the real world! this obviously came in handy for bmx racing ! wow, not sealed ! must be shit then! :buck2:

i never said they were shit, i just wondered what was so good about them.

unsealed hubs never match sealed for smoothness, especially when racing on dirty and dusty track conditions which would require cleaning and adjusting after short periods. i'm sure the precious 'r+d' you mention never took bmx tracks into consideration.due to this and the fact that most folk don't have the patience to fart about with unsealed hubs i feel unsealed hubs are downright dangerous.

but thanks for your input, now get back to your couch.

properly adjusted unsealed hubs will spin far smoother and far longer than any sealed hubs, yes they require more maintainance but are far better if looked after.
Title: Re: Nice piece of BMX History....
Post by: Wez on January 30, 2013, 08:55 PM
'like'  :daumenhoch:
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