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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: 58 delray on October 30, 2009, 08:50 AM

Title: drop out savers
Post by: 58 delray on October 30, 2009, 08:50 AM

as a newbie on here i have been looking back through pages of stuff that i have missed through not being here from the beginning and have seen some stunning restos.
 one thing i noticed though was the use of oval type dropout savers on many looptail rippers, these are not something i remember from bitd, the savers i remember that came with LTRs were large black washers, one of which had a raised portion to fit inside the dropout.
is there any reason why these original type savers are not used?

andy
ps this is not a dig at the fine restos out there, just curious thats all

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: thecrooch on October 30, 2009, 09:57 AM

http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm (http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm)

whether these are better or not i dont know, but you can buy direct and he ships quickly.

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: 58 delray on October 30, 2009, 10:32 AM

Quote from: Crooch on October 30, 2009, 09:57 AM

http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm (http://www.helixbmx.net/dropouts.htm)

whether these are better or not i dont know, but you can buy direct and he ships quickly.

not after any mate, just curious thats all,

andy

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: Redline on October 30, 2009, 03:54 PM

i would imagine that people use those long saver to cover up damage already done to the dropouts. I personally do as much work as I can to get dropouts on my builds looking mint then just use nylon washers instead. Personally I don't like to look of those long dropout savers!

J

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: meticulous on October 30, 2009, 04:40 PM

as john says, to cover up damage drop outs or as in my case, protect the paint and alloy, the thick alloy can easily crush when tightened...


(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii194/quattro2008/bmxpickies532.jpg)

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: trasher on October 30, 2009, 06:44 PM

i use them on my ripper ,,for riding ,,you cant tighten up the nylon washer enough for riding ,and because the rippers alloy then the savers save the dropouts

personally i like them on rippers  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: moley on October 31, 2009, 09:22 PM

I have a PK Ripper XL that I want to use for riding and I want to use Chain tensioners!!

It looks like I have to use the drop out savers on the rear to pad the axle. I have two Washers with the insert (like a top hat). 

How can I use chain tensioners with them?

Ideally I'd like to get the washers on the inside of the frame to allow the chaintensioners to be used on the outside (but I dont think that will be possible)!!

Do you see what I mean?

(http://www.helixbmx.net/graphics/PK_DO_Saver_Round_2.JPG)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/24/!Bbov)GQBmk~$(KGrHqYOKiQEq5B3VJT5BKw7DsK(9w~~_35.JPG)

I haven't build it yet and it is a later model OS legal Ripper but it looks similar to the piccys.

So how do I pad the axle and use chain tensioners?  ???

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: HEYWOOD BMX on October 31, 2009, 10:04 PM

 :) Won`t the chain tensioners protect the frame,especially if you use alloy ones?

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: moley on November 02, 2009, 12:01 AM

Quote from: HEYWOOD BMX on October 31, 2009, 10:04 PM

:) Won`t the chain tensioners protect the frame,especially if you use alloy ones?

Yeah but isn't the axle smaller in diameter than the dropout.

I've never had a PK before but I thought thats why the dropout savers are tophats, so that they fill the gap!!

Title: Re: drop out savers
Post by: meticulous on November 02, 2009, 08:23 AM

think they are top hats to keep the wheel central, other wise the narrow guage axle has a lot of play, i used chain tensioners on my pibull ripper but has to be the first washer and the narrow washer that comes with the chain tensioner digs into the frame, i never tried using top hats but think with all these washer you wont have room to put the nut on, besides the top hat washers also have a very narrow washer part that damages the frame...