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Title: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 06, 2010, 10:08 PM
Greetings radsters

So today I took the plunge and have sent payment for a lovely 85 Haro Master F/F in white - this is my first ever build as the only other BMX I owned was an 82 Silver Fox I had as a kid. My midlife crisis is therefore in full swing and so I am embarking on building my dream bike, not as a museum piece but something to ride now & again
Although I'd love to build it all up straight away, budget constraints say otherwise  ;D

I have a good idea how I want it to look in terms of colour scheme etc, since I'm starting from zero bits though I did wonder if it would be worth getting a cheap donor bike and swapping stuff rather than buying each piece ( at least then I get to ride it sooner!) Going for blue tuffs and silver/chrome bits, although I love to look at anything that's been anodised blue I want to avoid the part worn look you get once they've seen a bit of action - esp on pedals & brake levers

I have a few n00b questions to kick off -

Gyro recommendations? Always fancied one of these since on my old bike the caliper would always catch (are there any stems in particular that work well with these or others I should avoid)
Brakes - would like locking levers like the old tech 6 but not vital that I go for period items - if anyone can recommend some stylish/more effective/cheaper? more modern ones that would fit I'd be grateful, not sure how compatible modern brakes are though?

As for other bits will be keeping it OS, hardest choice I have to make I reckon will be bars and cranks - budget constraints forbid flights so will have to see what options there are for one piece/disc that would be in keeping

Sorry about the long post but am buzzing about this - wish I hadn't waited this long to get back into it

Thanks to anyone for advice  :daumenhoch:

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 07, 2010, 12:06 PM

Good stuff mate - sounds like you've got the bug  >:D

If you are 100% that it's a rider build then I would say buy the new sealed tuffs - old school looks, cheaper to buy and sealed bearings so ideal as rider wheels since there will be less maintenance  ;)

There's always some on UK ebay - these popped up in a quick search :

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Skyway-Tuff-II-20-Wheelset-Blue-BMX-bike-wheels-/260666786718?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item3cb0f3839e

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20-Skyway-Tuff-II-Mag-BMX-Wheel-Set-BLUE-/230476722885?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item35a97bb2c5


As for cranks - if you are going to ride it a lot I'd say get some redline twin pinch cranks. Same reasons as above - old school looks, relatively affordable, sealed bearings  :daumenhoch:

More ebay findings...........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/REDLINE-Flight-Cranks-Chrome-180mm-Brand-New-/290396154829?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item439cf5abcd

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Redline-Flight-Cranks-180mm-Redline-Flights-BMX-Cranks-/150485727575?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2309a5f957


Good luck with the build mate - keep us posted with some pics of your progress.

All voyeurs on here  >:D :LolLolLolLol:

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 07, 2010, 12:20 PM
Good luck for the build  :daumenhoch:

We all started where you are once ........................... 76 bikes later  :LolLolLolLol:


Now, blue tuffs you say for a rider ? Just may have a set which won't break the bank  :daumenhoch:


Nick
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 07, 2010, 01:25 PM
thanks guys for the help

bobafett - I had a good trawl last night on the bay (for research purposes!) and saw those - are they any good? wasn't sure as from the description they looked like repros. anyway might have to go 3pc or will have to get rid of the sealed bb that's already in the frame
was going to go with sealed bearing tuffs for cost reasons, although alloy hubs do look nicer

Gashead was going to go for new ones just because they have such an effect on the look of the bike, if you're selling some and aren't in a rush let me know (am skint now after buying that frame!)

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 07, 2010, 02:57 PM

They are fine for an old school rider mate - they are genuine redline just new  :)

As for the term "re-pop" well it's hard to say that in this case because they never really stopped making them. The twin pinch varients initially popped up many years ago with a few minor variations since.

You can read more about redline cranks here : http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26518.0

You may want to put up a wanted thread in the wanted section as you may get some new / hardly used ones from a RAD member for cheaper than the new ones on ebay just ask for "twin pinch redline cranks"

I have a set of the 180mm ones on my 82 supergoose rider and I much prefer them to the 175mm one peice I had on it initially and also to the alloy SR crank I had on it after that. Ideal OS rider cranks in my opinion.

This is them...........

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1982supergoose2rider/new/1982supergooserider_new01.jpg)

(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/mybikes/1982supergoose2rider/new/1982supergooserider_new07.jpg)

 :)

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 09, 2010, 12:58 AM
thanks - will see if i can save a bit extra! they do look nice  8)

can anyone recommend a good chrome headset that would fit and not need tightening up every 5 mins like mine from bitd

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 09, 2010, 01:35 AM
thanks - will see if i can save a bit extra! they do look nice  8)

can anyone recommend a good chrome headset that would fit and not need tightening up every 5 mins like mine from bitd

cheers

griff

Tioga beartrap 2 is about the best you can do for sensible money  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 09, 2010, 02:14 AM
cheers bobafett - that's what's on it now i think (in green)
going for chrome/silver as much as i can

can't wait for postie to deliver that frame! :daumenhoch:

right, back to working on a spec list.. how much is a kidney worth nowadays i wonder?  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 09, 2010, 11:35 PM
couple more questions...

anyone ever use one of these saddles? any good? thought might save a bit of weight and not a bad price (was after a chrome layback/black saddle)
would it fit the frame?

also what size pedals fit a 3pc crank? 1/2" or 9/16? thinking haro fusions in silver would look nice

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: stu27 on October 09, 2010, 11:41 PM
9/16 for a 3 piece mucka
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 09, 2010, 11:58 PM
thanks Stu!  :daumenhoch:

that's handy as the guy selling the pedals only has 9/16

might do a rethink on the gyro thing and just run the cable through a hollow stem bolt n out the fork
any recommendations on a suitable stem or brakes welcome

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 10, 2010, 01:52 AM
thanks - will see if i can save a bit extra! they do look nice  8)

can anyone recommend a good chrome headset that would fit and not need tightening up every 5 mins like mine from bitd

cheers

griff

Tioga beartrap 2 is about the best you can do for sensible money  :daumenhoch:

re: above - just had a search for info on beartraps and came across this thread on another site http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/lofiversion/index.php/t4001122.html

don't want to risk buying one that won't fit - anyone know cheapest place to get one?
found one on amazon.com for $11 but would get stung for p&p, only found 1 uk site so far vertego but they are 25 didn't even check for postage



Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: MartyC on October 10, 2010, 03:53 PM
thanks - will see if i can save a bit extra! they do look nice  8)

can anyone recommend a good chrome headset that would fit and not need tightening up every 5 mins like mine from bitd

cheers

griff

Tioga beartrap 2 is about the best you can do for sensible money  :daumenhoch:
re: above - just had a search for info on beartraps and came across this thread on another site http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/lofiversion/index.php/t4001122.html

don't want to risk buying one that won't fit - anyone know cheapest place to get one?
found one on amazon.com for $11 but would get stung for p&p, only found 1 uk site so far vertego but they are 25 didn't even check for postage


A Tioga Beartrap 2 will fit just fine, the guy in the thread you posted has been told a proper Jackanory about a custom crown race; that's just bulls1te.  If the Crown race is a little loose, electrical tape or a shim made from some thin tin (like a coke can) will do the trick.  Have a look on here in the for sale section, headsets do come up quite often.

There are different cup diameters but the Tioga Beartrap 2 is a bmx specific headset made to bmx standard sizing and has been for nearly 30 years  ;).
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 10, 2010, 10:35 PM
thanks Martyc will keep an eye out

just stumbled across this stem on ebay, not a big name (in fact no name at all as far as I can tell) but to my untrained eyes looks ok
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180562285327&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT#ht_500wt_1156
what do u guys reckon?

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: tobytyke on October 10, 2010, 10:49 PM
thanks Martyc will keep an eye out

just stumbled across this stem on ebay, not a big name (in fact no name at all as far as I can tell) but to my untrained eyes looks ok
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180562285327&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT#ht_500wt_1156
what do u guys reckon?

cheers

Griff

I'd personally wait & see if something turns up on the forum

It's up to you of course..  depends if your on a budget or not  :)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 10, 2010, 10:54 PM
couple more questions...

anyone ever use one of these saddles? any good? thought might save a bit of weight and not a bad price (was after a chrome layback/black saddle)
would it fit the frame?

also what size pedals fit a 3pc crank? 1/2" or 9/16? thinking haro fusions in silver would look nice

cheers

Griff

just realised the link to the saddle didn't appear before  :-[
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Elina-UL-Cosmic-Seat-Post-Seatpost-Black-Bmx-Nos-/260607303480?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item3cad67df38#ht_503wt_1140

these any good or am I likely to end up with the seat at a stupid angle?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: tobytyke on October 10, 2010, 11:02 PM
It's a matter of taste. Nothing wrong with them

Personally i would buy a  laid back seat post & seat seperately

Lee  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 10, 2010, 11:04 PM
thanks Martyc will keep an eye out

just stumbled across this stem on ebay, not a big name (in fact no name at all as far as I can tell) but to my untrained eyes looks ok
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180562285327&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT#ht_500wt_1156
what do u guys reckon?

cheers

Griff

I'd personally wait & see if something turns up on the forum

It's up to you of course..  depends if your on a budget or not  :)

I am on a budget after I made the mistake of listing all the bits I need and adding a total at the bottom  :shocked:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: tobytyke on October 10, 2010, 11:12 PM
http://www.differentpath.co.uk/

Check out Different path, that seat & post combo youv'e seen on ebay is £10 more than on this website

Also it's a member on here jtsmooth so you can't go far wrong

Prices include postage ( correct me if i'm wrong ) which is even better  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 10, 2010, 11:32 PM
haha confession time

I actually did see that first on DP site after checking out the recommended links here
~Only reason I put that link up was in case someone else went in and bought it before I had chance  :LolLolLolLol:

I dunno u guys don't miss a trick do ya

but thanks Lee for the kind thought - I'm planning on getting a few bits from his ebay list too next week (if they haven't already gone of course)

cheers again

griff

now I think I'll spend the next hour looking at brakes - god my wife thinks I've gone mad  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: tobytyke on October 10, 2010, 11:40 PM
yep my wife thinks exactly the same  :LolLolLolLol:

Now get it built & get some fookin pics up  :LolLolLolLol:

Good luck with the build
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 16, 2010, 05:53 PM
cheers all for advice / support!

now I've bitten the bullet and bought my first bits - thought I'd better get probably the biggest-ticket item out of the way first

so have some twin pinch redlines on the way ;D these were def not part of the original budget!

tech 77s in silver/black
bulldog calipers in silver
haro fusion pedals in silver
elina ul with layback post

still need to find everything else but apart form headset think I'm going to have to wait a bit

pics will follow as soon as stuff appears for the voyeurs
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: lammychop on October 16, 2010, 06:28 PM
the way i look at things and im a tight git you can buy haro fusion pedals ect and basickly there worth nothing second hand so buy the decennt stuff dx and xc and when you come to sell you will get your money back or even make some
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: MartyC on October 16, 2010, 06:30 PM
Maybe have a rethink on the Elina UL with layback, they tend to look pants  :-\.

Straight or Layback (no brace) seat post with a good Kashimax, Shotgun, Ariake or Elina seat always looks good  ;)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 16, 2010, 06:45 PM
I knew I was going to upset the purists! too late to cancel order now anyway with DP

If I build this thing with every part I want will be too scared to ride it - orig DX in silver would be very nice but for occasional riding thought the fusions would be ok
I know I'm taking a gamble with the seat n post but will see how it looks on the bike - have seen plastic saddles going for over 100 quids and I just can't justify that kind of outlay! (my good wife already had a few words to say about the redlines LOL)

will try and save some money with an old stem (that maybe I can clean up n polish myself) and hopefully the other bits I can get without breaking the bank

nobody slagged the brakes though so can i assume they're not too offensive?  :LolLolLolLol:

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: lammychop on October 16, 2010, 07:46 PM
what im saying is if  buy the haro fusions for 20 quid thats 20 wasted if you buy the more colectable stuff it an investment and will cost you nothing long term
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 16, 2010, 08:07 PM
you're right lammychop, but if I'm going to have this ready to ride by the time winter's over I have to trim the budget somewhere!
Once they're out of the packet proper dx would probably start depreciating quickly anyway - figured pedals get the most abuse

at least the fusions are going into a nice crank  ;)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: lammychop on October 16, 2010, 08:10 PM
dx in a packet let me know where you find them :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 16, 2010, 08:21 PM
they're stacked up next to the NOS unicorn horns and assorted hens' teeth

 :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Spen69 on October 17, 2010, 01:53 PM

They are fine for an old school rider mate - they are genuine redline just new  :)

As for the term "re-pop" well it's hard to say that in this case because they never really stopped making them. The twin pinch varients initially popped up many years ago with a few minor variations since.

You can read more about redline cranks here : http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26518.0

You may want to put up a wanted thread in the wanted section as you may get some new / hardly used ones from a RAD member for cheaper than the new ones on ebay just ask for "twin pinch redline cranks"

I have a set of the 180mm ones on my 82 supergoose rider and I much prefer them to the 175mm one peice I had on it initially and also to the alloy SR crank I had on it after that. Ideal OS rider cranks in my opinion.

I'm with John on this one. All the purists will rip into you about your cranks, but new Redlines are sweet cranks and look the nuts on a bike and can be picked up for sensible money on here all day long. 400's and 401's are for show ponies now, so chuck a set of twin-pinchers on and live the dream as we could never afford them as kids - both my freestyle my riders have them.......

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/aa149/Spen69/IMG_2606.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/aa149/Spen69/IMG_2608.jpg)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 17, 2010, 05:15 PM
n00b questions of the day today

what size seatpost clamp will fit an 85 master?
can an SR stem take a potts mod bolt?

what cables do i need if running a potts mod? (ie do i need a rear cable for the front as it's going a bit further?)

thanks as usual for any help!

getting quite excited now - should have F/F in a couple of days  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 17, 2010, 05:55 PM
got another question for you Spen69 (or anyone else that knows!)

did you need any adaptors when fitting a power disc to your cranks?
was looking for a silver one but not sure of the spindle size & they will be a few days in the post

cheers

Griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Spen69 on October 18, 2010, 12:49 AM
The top-hat washer to reduce from 22mm powerdisc / spider size to 19mm spindle size is in the cranks BB set when you buy it :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: brettypeeps on October 18, 2010, 07:38 AM
I you purchased the cranks from different path they will have the tophat washer with them.
I have twin pinch redlines on my master aswell.  They don't come loose and look the mutts nuts.
 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 20, 2010, 09:08 PM
I you purchased the cranks from different path they will have the tophat washer with them.
I have twin pinch redlines on my master aswell.  They don't come loose and look the mutts nuts.
 :daumenhoch:

evening all

so I came home today to find that not only had my F/F arrived, but also got my calipers and flight cranks through from alansbmx  :smitten:
the F/F had a sealed bb in already so I didn't need to buy one, but no top hat washer to be seen (or spacers)

anyone know where I can get some without buying a BB set?
[edit] also noticed in pics lots of ppl seem to have chrome caps on ends of spindles (my spindle bolts are dark metal with red washer thingys) do they push on/can you get those anywhere?

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ozone on October 21, 2010, 09:16 AM
I you purchased the cranks from different path they will have the tophat washer with them.
I have twin pinch redlines on my master aswell.  They don't come loose and look the mutts nuts.
 :daumenhoch:

evening all

so I came home today to find that not only had my F/F arrived, but also got my calipers and flight cranks through from alansbmx  :smitten:
the F/F had a sealed bb in already so I didn't need to buy one, but no top hat washer to be seen (or spacers)

anyone know where I can get some without buying a BB set?
[edit] also noticed in pics lots of ppl seem to have chrome caps on ends of spindles (my spindle bolts are dark metal with red washer thingys) do they push on/can you get those anywhere?

cheers

griff

Alans sell the tophat washers separately.  £3 + postage.

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?cPath=32_34&products_id=2343

Not sure about the spacers though...
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 21, 2010, 01:28 PM
thanks ozone! anyone know whether I will need the spacers/where I can get them (should probably ask harorider since it was his frame and he had flights on it before)

what about those chrome spindle end cap things - can they be found anywhere or am I being an idiot and looking at pics of different cranks?

answers on a postcard to the usual address  ;)

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 21, 2010, 09:17 PM
just in case it wasn't blindingly obvious what i was on about before, here's a link that shows the spindle bolts I got with the cranks
still can't find any details of chrome/silver alternatives...
http://www.dealtime.com/REDLINE-Redline-Flight-Crank-Flush-Mount-Spindle-Bolts/prices

anyone?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: lammychop on October 22, 2010, 07:39 AM
soak them in oven pride should take the anno off
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 22, 2010, 07:58 AM
come on Griff - bit light on pictures this thread  :angel:

some before and after perleeze...
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 09:42 AM
come on Griff - bit light on pictures this thread  :angel:

some before and after perleeze...

haha give me a chance - only got the frame this week (still need to get a headset before I can connect anything together)
will get some up as soon as poss but budget and lack of experience means this is probably going to be a bit slow for you lot ;)

thanks for all the advice though guys - without this site I probably would have been buying the wrong size bits  :daumenhoch:
actually without this site I probably wouldn't have turned into the BMX equivalent of a crackhead trawling the interwebs at night for shiny objects to put on a kids bike  :2funny:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 22, 2010, 09:49 AM
nope - no excuses Griff :LolLolLolLol:

photos are first... discussion second! wanna see before & after pics man  :)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: jimwise68 on October 22, 2010, 09:49 AM
without this site I probably wouldn't have turned into the BMX equivalent of a crackhead trawling the interwebs at night for shiny objects to put on a kids bike  :2funny:

Griff, get used to it mate, it doesnt get any easier or less addictive.  :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

Before you know it you will have a whole stable of bikes.
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 22, 2010, 12:06 PM

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/smilies/rad/Withoutpics.gif)

Soz mate couldn't resist  :LolLolLolLol:

All voyeurs on here - get some pics up  :coolsmiley:

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: brettypeeps on October 22, 2010, 12:11 PM

(http://www.jpdeane.com/BMX/smilies/rad/Withoutpics.gif)

Soz mate couldn't resist  :LolLolLolLol:

All voyeurs on here - get some pics up  :coolsmiley:



 :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 01:28 PM
honestly you lot!    ::)

my good wife has just emailed me to tell me that the nice post lady has brought my box from DP, so that's all my bits bought until I can get some more money together
apparently they had a nice chat on the doorstep about how the box was parts for a bmx. post lady said 'that's nice, is it for your son?' then they both had a good laugh when she said that 'actually no - they're for my husband as he's having a mid-life crisis and gone back to the 80s'

when I get back from work tonight I will take a picture just to keep you quiet for a bit, but you'll have to be patient as I'm a bit skint now

to date I have got

haro 85 master F/F in white, with sealed BB (need to get top hat/spacers before I can attach crank)
brand new flight cranks chrome 180mm
new DC bulldog calipers in silver
silver haro fusion DX style pedals
elina UL black saddle/layback post combo
DC tech 77 levers in silver/black

planned
chrome beartrap II headset
chrome bars - either haro/skyway/maybe GT or something not too wide want to be able to spin em easy
silver/chrome stem with potts mod
silver 1" post clamp
black/graphite tuffs
black grips (probably ame rounds but would like some like I put on my old bike bitd - think they were sharps? had separate bar ends you could screw in)
silver chain
whitewall tyres - ideally haro but haven't seen any about and probably dear as fook anyway
silver power disc + chainring - tuf neck style

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: brettypeeps on October 22, 2010, 01:30 PM
Your missis only jealous bcause she hasnt had a mid life crisis :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 01:43 PM
I'm a few years older so maybe it will happen around 2014    ;D
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: trasher on October 22, 2010, 02:40 PM
You could be looking at pics of 400's which have caps

As 401's don't  ;)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 02:46 PM
white wall haro multi direction tyres you say ................................. nos one's in the shed  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 22, 2010, 04:37 PM
my lovely wife still thinks I'm a cretin for being on this forum when I'm chilling out... as she sits and watches brain numbing shhit soaps... so we trade off vices...

with every post I like you more and more Griff... can totally relate to being skint and building my first bike ( this time last year to be exact ) - it takes a while to justify it to yourself more than anything else... the cost of it all is a bit  :shocked: to start with... but when you look around and see what you can spend then you get used to it... you just have to push yourself to buy things and keep resetting your guilt level  :D ;D

regarding your list - those grips were Sharp ones - there was two types of ends you could get - a freestyle one and the normal one that had more of a lip - there used to be a site that had them but it seems to be gone now - not much change from £20 for them - a nice £8 set of Ame Rounds will be good if you have a budget.

oh... did I mention
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Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 05:01 PM
£20? crikey even taking inflation into account that's a lot
mine were the 'lipped' ones of which you speak - got them as soon as they came out (found mushrooms too squidgey with bare hands) don't remember freestyle ones being available

AMEs it is then!

the prices are steep if i compare to the ally-framed mtb with rockshox and hydraulic disc brakes I found for my bro-in-law for 250 - FFS I just paid 85 quid for some crank arms  :shocked:

one good thing about all this from my mrs' point of view - she knows that if I'm out riding on a bmx at my age the VERY last thing I'm likely to be doing is messing with any other wimminz - BMXs were hardly chick-magnets back when I was 12-15 so 25 years later I doubt much has changed  ;D

I'd better get back to work!
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 07:42 PM
OK so I've got home from work and the very first thing I did was open the box from DP and arrange my bits and bobs so ED and Bobafett (and any other voyeurs!) can finally have a look. Everything is now back in the packets and bubble-wrapped safely ready for when I can actually get busy with the spanners

now I've seen it 'sort of' together I'm itching to add more bits  :D

cheers

griff
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ad120/gr1ff1ngton/bmx/P1030706.jpg?1287771045)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 07:51 PM
Do ya want the tyres Grifford  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 22, 2010, 08:00 PM
Do ya want the tyres Grifford  :daumenhoch:

give him a minute Nick... hes spent up  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 08:04 PM
gotta feed the flock...............................
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 22, 2010, 08:10 PM
gotta feed the flock...............................

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bad
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you
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baaa
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: WARDY on October 22, 2010, 08:12 PM


 they're for my husband as he's having a mid-life crisis and gone back to the 80s'



 :2funny: gone back to the 80s , what in , a fooking Delorean , sweet haro by the way Griff :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 08:17 PM


 they're for my husband as he's having a mid-life crisis and gone back to the 80s'



 :2funny: gone back to the 80s , what in , a fooking Delorean , sweet haro by the way Griff :daumenhoch:

wish I could go back to the 80s, I'd have a shed full of shiny shiny bits to flog to the hoarders on here then  :LolLolLolLol:

thanks wardy  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: brettypeeps on October 22, 2010, 08:29 PM
Sweet Haro there Griff.  Starting to take shape nicely :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 09:26 PM
cheers brettypeeps

so now you can probably tell which cranks they are - do you know if there are any chrome bolts available for these
looking close up couldn't tell for sure but don't think the ones in the box were anno'd..

thanks

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: brettypeeps on October 22, 2010, 09:48 PM
I have only ever seen the black annoed bolts for the twin pinch cranks Griff :'(  that is not to say that you cant  :daumenhoch:  set anywhere let me know and I will get a set for my Haro aswell :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 09:57 PM
I have only ever seen the black annoed bolts for the twin pinch cranks Griff :'(  that is not to say that you cant  :daumenhoch:  set anywhere let me know and I will get a set for my Haro aswell :4_17_5:

found this thread but found it a bit confusing tbh
maybe it makes sense to you?
http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/lofiversion/index.php/t3010737.html
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 10:00 PM
Griff are you after chrome / stainless hardware bolts for the crank ?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 10:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/REDLINE-401-Flight-Cranks-POLISHED-Hardware-Decals-/250456733270?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a50627656
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 10:04 PM
Griff are you after chrome / stainless hardware bolts for the crank ?

hardware bolts!? think so mate just didn't know what they were called
bit rubbish that the ones they give you aren't shiny to begin with  ::)

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 10:06 PM
as above then  :daumenhoch:

Sawzall on here doesthem too  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 10:06 PM
cheers gashead - would they fit my twin-pinchers tho?
bolts look a different shape from mine
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 10:15 PM
I'll check, got the bolts and twin pinchers  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 22, 2010, 10:17 PM
Sweet frameset - have to be honest though - can't stand those UL seats/drainpipe post combos - soz mate  :-[

Without breaking the bank a generic layback and an MX or Aero copy would be better IMHO.

Build is coming along though - will make a great rider  ;)

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 10:26 PM
Sweet frameset - have to be honest though - can't stand those UL seats/drainpipe post combos - soz mate  :-[

Without breaking the bank a generic layback and an MX or Aero copy would be better IMHO.

Build is coming along though - will make a great rider  ;)



no worries mate - i know they're not for everyone but I like the look of it, it's well light and was also cheap @ £20
wait till the purists see my basket/handlebar streamer add-ons then the insults will come  ;D

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 22, 2010, 10:33 PM
Sweet frameset - have to be honest though - can't stand those UL seats/drainpipe post combos - soz mate  :-[

Without breaking the bank a generic layback and an MX or Aero copy would be better IMHO.

Build is coming along though - will make a great rider  ;)



no worries mate - i know they're not for everyone but I like the look of it, it's well light and was also cheap @ £20
wait till the purists see my basket/handlebar streamer add-ons then the insults will come  ;D

cheers

griff

Don't forget one of these..........

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLASSIC-LOUD-CHROME-ALL-SIZE-BIKE-BICYCLE-HORN-BELL-/110587093941?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item19bf8123b5

 :daumenhoch:

 :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Gashead on October 22, 2010, 10:35 PM
I have one of these on the Gen 1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RETRO-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-THREE-TONE-CYCLE-HORN-BATTERY-OPP-/260670878379?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item3cb131f2ab
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 22, 2010, 10:37 PM
I have one of these on the Gen 1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RETRO-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-THREE-TONE-CYCLE-HORN-BATTERY-OPP-/260670878379?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item3cb131f2ab

Had one of them on me minigoose christmas day  :smitten: :LolLolLolLol:

Remote trigger the lot  :coolsmiley:

 :2funny:

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 22, 2010, 11:17 PM
I have one of these on the Gen 1

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RETRO-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-THREE-TONE-CYCLE-HORN-BATTERY-OPP-/260670878379?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item3cb131f2ab

now you're talking!!!!! I remember those from when I was a kid, remember they also had some well tacky light-up indicators in my mom's catalogue

classy stuff  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: bobafett on October 23, 2010, 12:37 AM

Deffo don't forget spokey dokeys  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 28, 2010, 08:54 PM
ok peeps today's topic is restoring a chainring & disc, made of steel from what I've been told in here

pic here
http://www.tntairsoft.com/bike/DSCN0947.JPG

will be on the way from thailand at some point soon - anyone have any tips on how I can get them back to somewhere near their original condition? (steel too tough for autosol?)

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: JOO on October 29, 2010, 12:05 AM
Hi mate first off you need to know what metal it is,do you know how to tell the difference between the two ?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 29, 2010, 12:30 AM
might have a better idea once it comes Joo - but from what i've been told I think it's steel (the pic i posted is the actual disc + ring)

will be a while before they arrive tho
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 29, 2010, 11:35 PM
tonight's topic - chain recommendations  :-\

toss-up between

Izumi nickel plated
KMC Z510HX
KMC s10 stainless

is the stainless one any good or more suitable for a show bike only? much difference in quality between KMC/Izumi?
I've no idea so any advice appreciated (also on yesterday's question  :daumenhoch:)

cheers

griff

[edit] just found one of the s/s ones for a tenner in the uk here -
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CHKMS10-SIL-18/kmc-s10-inox-stainless-chain---silver---1-8-in

111 links long enough?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 30, 2010, 07:36 PM
Griff - you are best posting questions a new topic - gets more attention  :daumenhoch:

Are you gonna be riding his quite a bit then?

I got an izuni nickel plated chain from alans for my bike and its been great - if you are buying a new chain it will 'usually' be 'overlong' so I'm sure you will have enough links

( took the hint btw )

tonight's topic - chain recommendations  :-\

toss-up between

Izumi nickel plated
KMC Z510HX
KMC s10 stainless

is the stainless one any good or more suitable for a show bike only? much difference in quality between KMC/Izumi?
I've no idea so any advice appreciated (also on yesterday's question  :daumenhoch:)

cheers

griff

[edit] just found one of the s/s ones for a tenner in the uk here -
http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CHKMS10-SIL-18/kmc-s10-inox-stainless-chain---silver---1-8-in

111 links long enough?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 30, 2010, 07:59 PM
thanks for the tip Ed - was trying to avoid spamming the board all the time and confine my newbie questions in one thread  ;D

saw that KMC one on Porkchop site described like this 'When people ask for the "best quality BMX chain, that will look good on an old school build" this is the one we recommend.' and was on at $19.99 + delivery, just wondered how they stacked up vs Izumi as thats the only chain make I can remember from bitd

probably not going to be riding that much, but definitely not building this just to look at!

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 30, 2010, 08:14 PM
griff - got mine here - Porkchop is great but you gotta figure the postage in from the US.. not that cheap.

I got my izumi here...

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?cPath=116_134&products_id=1889

its a really nice chain if you ask me.

I'd list all your questions separately as it helps others find the answer if they have the same question...  :daumenhoch:

thanks for the tip Ed - was trying to avoid spamming the board all the time and confine my newbie questions in one thread  ;D

saw that KMC one on Porkchop site described like this 'When people ask for the "best quality BMX chain, that will look good on an old school build" this is the one we recommend.' and was on at $19.99 + delivery, just wondered how they stacked up vs Izumi as thats the only chain make I can remember from bitd

probably not going to be riding that much, but definitely not building this just to look at!

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 30, 2010, 08:30 PM
griff - got mine here - Porkchop is great but you gotta figure the postage in from the US.. not that cheap.

I got my izumi here...

http://www.alansbmx.com/product_info.php?cPath=116_134&products_id=1889

its a really nice chain if you ask me.

I'd list all your questions separately as it helps others find the answer if they have the same question...  :daumenhoch:

thanks for the tip Ed - was trying to avoid spamming the board all the time and confine my newbie questions in one thread  ;D

saw that KMC one on Porkchop site described like this 'When people ask for the "best quality BMX chain, that will look good on an old school build" this is the one we recommend.' and was on at $19.99 + delivery, just wondered how they stacked up vs Izumi as thats the only chain make I can remember from bitd

probably not going to be riding that much, but definitely not building this just to look at!

cheers

griff

you're not wrong - when you add a chain into the basket from porkchop the postage goes right up (that's why I was asking about the stainless KMC since I can get one for £10 all in)
will probably use porkchop for some ame rounds though and maybe a few small (and light) bits - cheapest I've seen anywhere so far even with the postage!

cheers

griff
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 30, 2010, 08:47 PM
what colour rounds are you after Griff?
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 30, 2010, 08:50 PM
what colour rounds are you after Griff?

black ones ed
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 30, 2010, 09:40 PM
what colour rounds are you after Griff?

black ones ed

of course... duh.

Still reckon they would be cheaper off ebay than Porkchop... unless you find some other people wanting stuff and combine the postage.

You could always drop a post in Wanted as people change colours all the time - you never know  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: Jamroll on October 30, 2010, 10:42 PM
Griff,
I'm beginnig to think you and Ed are lovers  :-* :-* :-* ;D
All i see is your name in his thread and his name in your thread...must be  :smitten:  ;D 
Well impressed with how quick you have taken to gettin the Haro sorted though...quality  :daumenhoch:
More pics needed soon  ::)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: ED209 on October 30, 2010, 10:50 PM
Awwww I love you too you big jam roly poly you  :smitten:

Actual quote from Ed's primary school report "Edward ( age 9 ) is too busy sharpening other peoples pencils"

Fish gotta swim  :angel:

Griff,
I'm beginnig to think you and Ed are lovers  :-* :-* :-* ;D
All i see is your name in his thread and his name in your thread...must be  :smitten:  ;D 
Well impressed with how quick you have taken to gettin the Haro sorted though...quality  :daumenhoch:
More pics needed soon  ::)
Title: Re: Griff's Haro Master Build (Life begins at 40)
Post by: griff on October 30, 2010, 11:29 PM
Griff,
I'm beginnig to think you and Ed are lovers  :-* :-* :-* ;D
All i see is your name in his thread and his name in your thread...must be  :smitten:  ;D 
Well impressed with how quick you have taken to gettin the Haro sorted though...quality  :daumenhoch:
More pics needed soon  ::)
;D sorry jamroll don't want you feeling left out mate - I'll see if I can find some of your posts

hopefully today's ebay purchase will turn up soon and I can add some wheels  :daumenhoch:
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