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Title: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 20, 2011, 12:39 PM
just been doing a mock up build to see what the issues are with the chain
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0036.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0037.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0039.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0040.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0042.jpg)
you can see here where the chain touches the frame
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0043.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0045.jpg)

at the moment the chain only just touchs the frame im thinking of heating the part up and bending it out slightly so the chain runs free but not sure yet.

big thanks to firebird steve and poolysherrif for there help so far  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: monkian on May 20, 2011, 12:51 PM
If there's room, would it help if you put the chainring on the inside of the spider? ???
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Jaymz on May 20, 2011, 12:53 PM
thats a bit of a quandry isnt it, nice frame though.

controversial thought here but how about having the tube indented like they do with some chainstays behind the chainwheel to give clearance to the chain, as the chainwheel and freewheel look to be inline so moving the chainwheel inwards would only make the chain run at an angle and put undue pressure on it.
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: skki3330 on May 20, 2011, 12:56 PM
If there's room, would it help if you put the chainring on the inside of the spider? ???

Good idea
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on May 20, 2011, 01:16 PM
I was going to add that you should consider a smaller chainring, 36T or 38T and mount on the inside of the spider. Then try and get hold of a 13T or 14T rear freewheel or change your hubs for a Shimano cassette 14T  :daumenhoch:

Might help you get round the heating and bending of the frame  :coolsmiley:

Tj
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 20, 2011, 01:19 PM
ive almost cracked it chainwheel is on the back of the spider but ive had to use a 40 tooth chainwheel, but it has worked.
this bike will never be ridden so i guess the gearing isnt as important
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0046.jpg)
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: phantom photon on May 20, 2011, 01:30 PM
Cool  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on May 20, 2011, 02:06 PM

"This bike will never be ridden so i guess the gearing isnt as important"

I would just have to ride it  :2funny:  :2funny:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Swivel on May 20, 2011, 02:11 PM
fooking cool that, so weird but also cool, nice one glad the chain has worked out well  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: poolysheriff on May 20, 2011, 04:01 PM
Its gonna be sweet that Scott  :smitten:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 20, 2011, 04:07 PM
im thinking white frame and forks semi custom decals (weve no idea what theyd have done but theve all similar)
gotta be tuffs or z rims nice laidback post and kashi aero.
im not sure what bars though so if anyone has a surgestion!
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: MartyC on May 20, 2011, 04:11 PM
Great to see this being built up, I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: john4130 on May 20, 2011, 04:16 PM
you could also add another washer, about 2mm to the hub on the drive side and remove one from the other side or grind down a cone nut about 2mm to balance it out.
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: ED209 on May 20, 2011, 06:31 PM
oooooo  :shocked: loving the one of a kind-ness.

If it was mine ( and I now kinda wish it was  ::) ) I would strip and polish the frame to bare metal... laquer it to protect it... get some Landing Gear forks and Ladder bars in the same colour ( maybe white ) and custom white graphics based on the Ltd Ed ones from Steve to say 'Prototype Freestyler' rather than 'Firebird' and leave all the other parts of it the same...

... but its your bike mate so just enjoy whatever you do... I can't wait to see how it comes out  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 20, 2011, 09:03 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0056.jpg)
get in ya bastard 2mm of clearance is better than none :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0057.jpg)
popped some tuffs on much better

off to dan next for nice powder job!
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: firebird4130 on May 20, 2011, 10:06 PM
I would get it chromed or candy blue, slap some dp racing stickers on it and turn it into a trike  :coolsmiley:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/ii227/firebird4130/trikek8.jpg)
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: bobafett on May 20, 2011, 10:26 PM

   off to dan next for nice powder job!


Result on the chain clearance - what colour you going for ?

Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: bobbysam on May 20, 2011, 10:27 PM
Can't wait to see this finished, very cool.
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: fischflo on May 20, 2011, 11:15 PM
ooooooo, i remember that one..... finally! .... i knew it would work  8) Freestyle prototype, my god, how to do that justice....?!?  :-\ :D No idea (yet), but one thing's for certain ---custom stickers!!, 'freestyle firetype' something like that :daumenhoch:      ... damn, should really pursue completing mine , me so laaazy  :crazy2:
awesome project that    :4_17_5:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Darren KAP on May 20, 2011, 11:51 PM

    can't wait to see it finished , really wish it was mine  :smitten:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: R Al on May 21, 2011, 12:00 AM
 Would a thin chain be any better  ???
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: MartyC on May 21, 2011, 05:25 AM
Would a thin chain be any better  ???

Good call, a 3/32 10/11 speed chain would be half the width!
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 21, 2011, 07:01 AM


85 / 86  frame, what colours were big ? oraange,red,lavender
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: rick1970 on May 21, 2011, 07:23 AM
As its a prototype and its been red for many years it would be a shame to deviate from this colour, so maybe have it re done the same shade red as a tribute, that we will all recognise  and remember  ;)  just my humble opinion  :daumenhoch:  great work by the way keep it up win ,you'll probably have it finnished before my GT    :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: hunterdubber on May 21, 2011, 07:51 AM
That's quirky and cool  :4_17_5: :coolsmiley:  :smitten:


As others have said definately try and get a washer or two on the hub axle  inside of the dropout to lightly adjust prise the frame out ward . :daumenhoch:

I'd agree with Pete ,, a mid 80's colour like Lavender , orange etc seems the only way to go  8)


Can you make up the decals with a mix of these two styles is this a transitiion frame before the the Freestyler came out?  ???



(http://www.dpfirebird.co.uk/communities/2/004/006/866/752/images/4523526389_pre.jpg)

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mj_8yUFk_mtyQGSrRqoxrJQ/140.jpg)


Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: GTnumber1 on May 21, 2011, 08:29 AM
id put some dyno stickers on it as its very similar  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



looking sweet thoe  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 21, 2011, 09:21 AM
the frame is almost definetly 85/86 and was originaly white but mr pooles sons have sprayed it red with airosols.
so i was thinking white and useing the standard firebird decals but instead or red F's and dots on the I's id change that to lime green of blue maybe but not sure yet
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: MartyC on May 21, 2011, 10:09 AM
the frame is almost definetly 85/86 and was originaly white but mr pooles sons have sprayed it red with airosols.
so i was thinking white and useing the standard firebird decals but instead or red F's and dots on the I's id change that to lime green of blue maybe but not sure yet

Excellent choice, I'd go with blue on the decals.... white frame and forks...
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: RoyalTrux on May 21, 2011, 01:13 PM
Holy Bejebus! What the hell is that?  ;D  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 21, 2011, 02:20 PM
how do these look
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/winnet1.jpg)

ive blue tuffs and a blue kashimax aero but i could use green parts no problem
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: bobafett on May 21, 2011, 02:34 PM

Looks cool with blue or green - how about a bix of both ? and then do the build like you say with a mix of green and blue..... like some of the MRD or Haro builds that have been done  :coolsmiley:

Gonna be very unique whichever way you go  :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: animal on May 21, 2011, 03:02 PM
I can't wait 2 c this built  ;) Its gonna b ace  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 26, 2011, 06:20 PM
almost there
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v665/winnit93/IMAG0067.jpg)
ignore the colour of the painted parts as its all going to change.
frame will be white with blue components, post will be chrome
ive also found 880/901 calipers which dan will be doing blue for me
just need blue levers now tech 4 would be great ( i can trade for tech 4 white or shimano dx red or gold all nos in bags)
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: Spen69 on May 26, 2011, 06:30 PM
Scott that's bloody ace!

I'll trade you a mint bagged set of blue Tech4's for another set of those bars like Kuwwie ones I had off you if you don't get sorted bud ;-)

Love the bike - it's bonkers!

Spen
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: stidds on May 26, 2011, 07:17 PM
Fook me that is one seriously ugly frame and this coming from a Slingshot owner who knows about ugly frames.  :LolLolLolLol:


Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: pickle on May 26, 2011, 07:30 PM
not half as ugly as that seat post though  ;)
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: MartyC on May 27, 2011, 11:24 AM
not half as ugly as that seat post though  ;)

+1,000,000 lol!
Title: Re: prototype dp firebird freestyler
Post by: winnit93 on May 27, 2011, 11:39 AM
not half as ugly as that seat post though  ;)

+1,000,000 lol!

until i find another seat post with the same lean the post stays, its tioga and its era correct. i may remove the support mind but i love the angle of it.
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