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Title: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: eddie kidd on January 08, 2014, 12:18 AM
Q,

Can a rim / spokes / nipples / hubs be powder coated ?

I've had a bit of a mishap whilst stripping the anno off an Araya Aero Rim...

Please help.

Thanks in eager anticipation

Eddie
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: NORTY40 on January 08, 2014, 12:55 AM
What's happened ? pics  ???  What did you use to strip the anno off ??
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: Munnyella on January 08, 2014, 09:54 PM
It can be done, but shouldn't, worst case, strip the spokes out, powder the rim and rebuild with cleaned/replaced spokes and hub.
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: eddie kidd on January 09, 2014, 07:23 PM
What's happened ? pics  ???  What did you use to strip the anno off ??

Norty,
used this stuff... but left it on toooooooooooooooooooooo long...

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14001_zps2f52b294.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14001_zps2f52b294.jpg.html)

Resulting in this...

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14020_zpsd574487f.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14020_zpsd574487f.jpg.html)

 :(
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: fischflo on January 10, 2014, 10:56 AM
Damn :-\ ......how long did you leave it, just for the record?
any chance that could be polished /dremeled (?) out..? ...if it's not too deep, i mean, and that is the only spot on the rims.   
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: NORTY40 on January 10, 2014, 11:07 AM
 
Damn :-\ ......how long did you leave it, just for the record?
any chance that could be polished /dremeled (?) out..? ...if it's not too deep, i mean, and that is the only spot on the rims.   

Longer than a few minutes that's for sure !!   :D

:( Bloody shame that Eddie .  I always use caustic soda crystals , it only takes a few minutes (5/10) to strip a rim ...... in hindsight it's probably a good job you haven't as Caustic is stronger and you would probably have no rim left at all !!!

I reckon it could be sanded out and polished but it depends on how far the ovenpride has soaked in aswell ..... it can leave a veining effect even after sanding and polishing . 

Note for future ...... don't leave in for too long and rinse off with loads of water after  :D
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: Jaan on January 10, 2014, 11:21 AM
Thats a shame about your wheel bud, if its any consolation, you're not alone in doing that!!  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: NORTY40 on January 10, 2014, 12:16 PM
Thats a shame about your wheel bud, if its any consolation, you're not alone in doing that!!  :crazy2:

numpty !  :-*
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: Jaan on January 10, 2014, 12:23 PM
Thats a shame about your wheel bud, if its any consolation, you're not alone in doing that!!  :crazy2:

numpty !  :-*

Very easily distrac
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: john4130 on January 10, 2014, 05:11 PM
it may not be as bad as you think, give it a sand down and a polish to see if it,s left it looking peppered with small holes.
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: eddie kidd on January 10, 2014, 08:26 PM
Damn :-\ ......how long did you leave it, just for the record?
any chance that could be polished /dremeled (?) out..? ...if it's not too deep, i mean, and that is the only spot on the rims.

I think 36 hours...
It said overnight on box, but i went on to work on Saturday morning totally forgetting about it... :idiot2:

It came out of the bag like this...

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14015_zps3fcf5f7e.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14015_zps3fcf5f7e.jpg.html)
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14016_zps04945998.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14016_zps04945998.jpg.html)

A quick wash...

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14017_zps9693f99c.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14017_zps9693f99c.jpg.html)
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14018_zps34f1d677.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14018_zps34f1d677.jpg.html)

Then 4 hours of wire wool/wet&dry...

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p713/eddiekidd/nikon5-1-14019_zpsc35d31b9.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/eddiekidd/media/nikon5-1-14019_zpsc35d31b9.jpg.html)

The whole rim is pitted...

Got a Dremmel to try tomorrow...
But it may be fooked...

Superbikedan wants to see if he can work some magic on it, but i'm waiting till i get another rim and can send then him over the 3 of them in case it doesn't powder coat too good...
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: fischflo on January 10, 2014, 08:57 PM
yikes -- fingers crossed, and if Dan says nay, maybe the pits don't jump to the eye (..so much..) if you give the rims a brushed finish ......? ->http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,166650.0.html
...Just to minimize the damage .....

36 hours :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: Gnarlyscoots on January 10, 2014, 09:15 PM
I think 36 hours...

:shocked:   :crazy2:   :D

I find if you put the item in the bag and work on it with your fingers, it will speed the whole process. I recently done a spider and just put it in a tub and worked the liquid with a toothbrush. It took about 10 minutes to completely remove all the anno  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: GavinDavis on January 10, 2014, 09:24 PM
Wow!!! 36hrs?? Thats HARDCORE! Lol

At least the rims came out in one piece.....i was expecting a dissolved mountain of metal  ;D
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: laidback on January 11, 2014, 05:58 PM
ooops :-\

If it makes you feel any better, i stripped the anno off some Ukai/Peregrine rims with Caustic soda...a weak mix.  I left them for about an hour, turning as i went and they still came out pitted.  Hours and hours spent polishing afterwards, and they are still a little pitted.

Live and learn. Should have got the Mrs to do it...They're pretty good at using products such as Oven Pride :Aresehole:
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: snoopy72 on January 11, 2014, 06:17 PM
Sorry to see it damaged Eddie, it's easy to get distracted and forget about something, probably find a rim shaped ring on the block paving tomorrow where you washed it off , a few years back my dad sprayed the inside of the oven with Mr muscle oven cleaner , left it overnight and in the morning was cleaning the parts when he discovered daylight shining through into the back of the oven, after seeing that i've always used a good old fashioned brillo pad to clean my oven  :daumenhoch:
Mr muscle sprayed onto anodised items should remove coloured ano in about 15 minutes if you agitate it with a tooth brush (wear eye protection) and DON'T use your own toothbrush  :teef:   
 Rinse it well with lots of soapy water, hard anodise is a different matter, better off taking it to an anodisers and getting them to remove it for you.
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: eddie kidd on January 11, 2014, 08:04 PM
it may not be as bad as you think, give it a sand down and a polish to see if it,s left it looking peppered with small holes.


You could be right John.

I got the dremmel onto it today for 30 mins and it smoothed out a great deal...

It's tomorrow's project...
Title: Re: Can a complete Wheel be Powder Coated ???
Post by: superbikedan on January 11, 2014, 08:31 PM
Lads, reading through this and seeing the pics maybe you should try the costic hot, I've stripped loads of hubs, pedals rims etc and my trick is have a cold water tub next to the hot costic, what I do is use boiled water, pure it into the tub than add costic, give it a quick stir and place the item in the tub, it will fizz straight away and the anno will come off in seconds,
dip the item in the cold water then repeat again just holding it in the hot costic for a few more seconds and it will come out mint :daumenhoch:
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