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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: ED209 on June 20, 2017, 07:08 PM
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Another last build ... couldn't resist the decals
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I hope you'll do many more last builds! fistblump
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Why stop?
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:LolLolLolLol:
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Thought it was gonna be a thread about you and pie eating Ed........... :-\
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I thought you'd gone brakeless...
Brian :daumenhoch:
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Bully are amongst my favourite decals.
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:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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I heard he was addicted to the shindig
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:LolLolLolLol: Nice one Ed. :daumenhoch:
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Rad :daumenhoch: what model is it though, I don't recognise the decal?
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At £30 that was a steal , if I hadn't just bought another Holmes then I would have had it :daumenhoch:
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At £30 that was a steal , if I hadn't just bought another Holmes then I would have had it :daumenhoch:
I got it for £35 posted Mike :angel:
I'm not doing a thing to it ... I love the look of it :slayer:
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:slayer: :slayer: fistblump
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Rad :daumenhoch: what model is it though, I don't recognise the decal?
it looks to me like a 94 Big Block but its got Piston decals on ... so not sure yet.
The guy I bought it from got it from the original owner who rode it back in the day ... he got 2 x nos Bully Hot Rods from him and this one ... its just looks so nice in surviour condition ... just gotta find some parts now :-)
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Yes that's a small/big block, cool backround on it too :daumenhoch: what sort of bits you after for it?
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You're just addicted to the shin dig ;)
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You're just addicted to the shin dig ;)
keep up Roberto :teef:
I heard he was addicted to the shindig
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Yes that's a small/big block, cool backround on it too :daumenhoch: what sort of bits you after for it?
rough ones :-)
apparently those are the decals that were on it when he had it tho?
should arrive tomorrow to I can get the serial
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Yes that's a small/big block, cool backround on it too :daumenhoch: what sort of bits you after for it?
rough ones :-)
apparently those are the decals that were on it when he had it tho?
should arrive tomorrow to I can get the serial
Not sure then, someone I used to ride with got a Piston from a fella who had an advert in Ride mag & it looked like a Bully ll apart from no platform, kicked back seat tube and all! Did the Piston frame get an overhaul & end up looking like a small/big block?
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Always confused me had these two and the decals were og, people always used to say the hotrod was a piston?
The piston was a great bike to ride
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o140/thebigdog25/3929c104f60a6cbbf04bad4c5d96a345_zpsc891e8e1.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/thebigdog25/media/3929c104f60a6cbbf04bad4c5d96a345_zpsc891e8e1.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o140/thebigdog25/photo3-9.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/thebigdog25/media/photo3-9.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o140/thebigdog25/102_0821.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/thebigdog25/media/102_0821.jpg.html)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/o140/thebigdog25/102_0809.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/thebigdog25/media/102_0809.jpg.html)
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How rough Ed? I've got a oddysey race seat that's perfect for it but scabby. Others a bit of era correct duct tape couldn't sort lol.
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And a scabby 25.4 semi layback REDLINE micro adjust seat post
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The Piston my mate had looked like the second one in those pics above :daumenhoch: it was painted in that turquoise/black fade though.
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How rough Ed? I've got a oddysey race seat that's perfect for it but scabby. Others a bit of era correct duct tape couldn't sort lol.
rough! pics please
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And a scabby 25.4 semi layback REDLINE micro adjust seat post
again ..scabby is the science .. will find out post size tomorrow :daumenhoch:
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Its here ... its lovely! 8)
21" TT as well ... stoked fistblump
22.2 seat tube Jaymz so thanks for the offer but the redline post is out :crybaby:
Pickle gave me a GT semi layback ages ago tho so I'm sorted on a post :daumenhoch:
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How rough Ed? I've got a oddysey race seat that's perfect for it but scabby. Others a bit of era correct duct tape couldn't sort lol.
rough! pics please
shot you some on Facebook later petal
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How rough Ed? I've got a oddysey race seat that's perfect for it but scabby. Others a bit of era correct duct tape couldn't sort lol.
rough! pics please
shot you some on Facebook later petal
I can't handle mixed tenses ;D
but I will spoke to you later about it for sure :D :D :D :D :D
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The frame you've got there is a Bully piston STRETCH. It was in Go in mid 91. I ordered one from Trend when I went out to the states in August 91 but being me I didn't ask on the phone "is it the new Piston stretch with the wishbones?" and they sent me the older piston race frame (like in pics on page 1 of thread). Awful awful geometry. Lowest bottom bracket ever. You'd nearly catch pedals on the floor turning a corner with pedals level.
Then bully went away for a bit (RL pulled out when they all broke pretty much) so there weren't many piston stretches (I think Dave Bishop from Hastings used to ride one). Then when MCS took control of bully and relaunched it the piston stretch was renamed big block and all that with those awful shitty graphics.
So I'd say you got yourself quite a rare frame there
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to be an authentic late-80s/early-90s BULLY you need to take an angle grinder to it, cut around the TOP TUBE and DOWN TUBE then repeat in other key areas :D then re-weld it back together badly and spray it some really shit neon colour, finishing with lots of stickers to cover the bad paint job >:D >:D >:D >:D
no wonder they went nearly bankrupt..... or did they?????
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The frame you've got there is a Bully piston STRETCH. It was in Go in mid 91. I ordered one from Trend when I went out to the states in August 91 but being me I didn't ask on the phone "is it the new Piston stretch with the wishbones?" and they sent me the older piston race frame (like in pics on page 1 of thread). Awful awful geometry. Lowest bottom bracket ever. You'd nearly catch pedals on the floor turning a corner with pedals level.
Then bully went away for a bit (RL pulled out when they all broke pretty much) so there weren't many piston stretches (I think Dave Bishop from Hastings used to ride one). Then when MCS took control of bully and relaunched it the piston stretch was renamed big block and all that with those awful shitty graphics.
So I'd say you got yourself quite a rare frame there
Was the one you had painted or chrome Chris?
Edit : Did Bully do canti mounts that early? Ed's frame has them on......
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got some nice parts coming ... gonna start a separate build thread :daumenhoch:
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got some nice parts coming ... gonna start a separate build thread :daumenhoch:
I found a couple of those seats I was on about, I'll get a pic over to you, but I don't remember them being about in '91 if that's from when yours is?!
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got some nice parts coming ... gonna start a separate build thread :daumenhoch:
I found a couple of those seats I was on about, I'll get a pic over to you, but I don't remember them being about in '91 if that's from when yours is?!
Don't think it is from 91 - I showed Chris the other decals and it's a real mix ... so still not sure
Love to see the seats tho
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Ed is there a way of posting pics on here directly from my phone? Photofooket no worky...
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Following some frenzied photo exchanges it looks like a 93/4 bully with some sneaky older stickers on.
My non-stretch bully was chrome. It were shite...
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We got there in the end! :daumenhoch:
Not the frame my mate ended up with then Chris as his was painted. I just wondered as there couldn't have been many of those 'non stretch' pistons in the uk? I now remember the real low b/b it had, even with short cranks the pedals would clip the floor a lot!
The headtube ended up parting company from the rest of the frame when it was treated to some 1" aheadset Mosher forks!
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I got onto the FB Bully page and got the following from Craig Fisher ( the guy with the Skyways in the Classic BMX mag )
" It's 100% a Piston, a genuine US hand built one. Don't listen to others as this is not a Hot Rod or any other like many think. This is a sweet score and you WILL NEVER bust this. One of the best frames to ever come out of the US."
... not sure why he is so sure? another guy posted his one without the brake mounts which looks similar ... but I'm not sure how you tell is this is a Piston Stretch with brake mounts ... or a Big Block?
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It looks like a less beefy Rotrod ... like this ...
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but the serial is waaaay off ... 4217XX?
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Did this Craig fella say anything about the canti lugs? Whatever it is, it's something different & pretty rare so just carry on getting all the parts for it before you tie your head up in knots :LolLolLolLol:
Also, has that piston in the pic you just put up got a welded on seat clamp?
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Well this is another thing I have spotted ... that era of Piston ( early 90s ) doesn't seem to have brake mounts and also have a intergrated seat clamp... mine has neither making it more like the later models ... but from the pics I have seem, not as beefy.
As I said to Chris ... I'm not that bothered ... just like to know about things :-)
The forks are even more of a mystery ... they seem well build but no one has any info on what brand they are, or what this Rota System was :angel:
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Well this is another thing I have spotted ... that era of Piston ( early 90s ) doesn't seem to have brake mounts and also have a intergrated seat clamp... mine has neither making it more like the later models ... but from the pics I have seem, not as beefy.
As I said to Chris ... I'm not that bothered ... just like to know about things :-)
The forks are even more of a mystery ... they seem well build but no one has any info on what brand they are, or what this Rota System was :angel:
I was looking at the Gyro-front, but couldn't find a thing - and I'm really into gyros. If it is any kind of rotor system, only Clint may know I think - as he always puts rotors in his museum thread I've never seen or heard of.
Regarding Rota System: There's a company making wheels for cars, a company that actually does bycicles but mostly road bikes, and then there's like a temporary employment agency. I couldn't find something BMX related.
Maybe the owner who did put these decals on, made them himself and ROTA System was to him something like a life motto: Ride Or Try At least. ::)
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Ride Or Try At least. I love that. :daumenhoch:
I asked the guy who I got the frame from... and he went back to the guy he had got it from... and he had a bit of info.
Apparently they are made by a very little known company called Al Carter Cycles ... so I googled that and found them.
They seem to be a late 80's early 90's MTB company that dabbled in BMX .. found this on the museum.
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http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/al_carter_cycles/12054
Mark Munny had one for a bit but other than that theres hardly any info on them. It had the same costing as a DP GL Limited Edition ... that sort of Ni-Bronze.
Nice to have tracked them down. :4_17_5:
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Ed, Simon still has his Al Carter MTB from about 1990 when he was working in a bike shop in brum. Never heard of them before or since......
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Bit more info from Craig Fisher
"I rode for Bully from 91 to 94. I started with the piston pre-post mount, then around 93 I was given the newer 'stretch' with post-mount brakes, and approx 12 months after this I was handed the Big Block, the Big Block was created to be more race spec'd as the Piston was always more a street frame than race. The Big Block had std chain n seat stays and a slightly higher BB. Either way what you have their is a nice genuine Piston Bully."
fistblump
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explosion finally! :daumenhoch: that pic of the Al Carter bike looks like someone cut up a Sport & a '95 GT and got busy with a welder :LolLolLolLol:
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explosion finally! :daumenhoch: that pic of the Al Carter bike looks like someone cut up a Sport & a '95 GT and got busy with a welder :LolLolLolLol:
which is not bad for an 88 bike :daumenhoch:
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explosion finally! :daumenhoch: that pic of the Al Carter bike looks like someone cut up a Sport & a '95 GT and got busy with a welder :LolLolLolLol:
which is not bad for an 88 bike :daumenhoch:
Visionary :LolLolLolLol:
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We got there in the end! :daumenhoch:
Not the frame my mate ended up with then Chris as his was painted. I just wondered as there couldn't have been many of those 'non stretch' pistons in the uk? I now remember the real low b/b it had, even with short cranks the pedals would clip the floor a lot!
The headtube ended up parting company from the rest of the frame when it was treated to some 1" aheadset Mosher forks!
I got mine from Trend in 91 when I was at university in Illinois. Gave it to Ross Milne (cheeky monkey BMX) a couple of years later. Probably ended up in a bin after that as he ŵas occasionally doing flips on it....
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don't know if you've see this test from a ride mag apr'95 ED,but i'd thought i would post them in here
(http://i.imgur.com/FmE3WMS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gvJV0b3.jpg)
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Ugly scruffy thing ain't it?
Love it :daumenhoch:
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Ga day Ed , its bouncer here from down under . Al Carter bikes were Townsend cycles top end bikes , basically they copied raylegh's idea and used good brand parts to put together some awesome bikes . My Al Carter black panther MTB still rides awesome and its survived my idiotic riding since 1991 . Its all tange , araya and top end shimano . I never got to play with any of there BMX stuff though as we were banging out Townsend catalogue return mtb's at 99quid a pop and we could sell 250 a week back then . Good times as I was paid a mad wage and made 20% per bike . Happy days cobba .
See you next time I'm over but ,
Doony out .
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don't know if you've see this test from a ride mag apr'95 ED,but i'd thought i would post them in here
(http://i.imgur.com/FmE3WMS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gvJV0b3.jpg)
cheers Gary :-)
feedback I've had on mine is that its earlier than this one ... its nowwhere near as beefy as the Big Block
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