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Title: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 04, 2018, 11:02 PM
MK17 saw the first mid school tent and the biggest turnout of mid school bikes ever at MK ... by miles.

I'd like to propose that because of the massive turnout last time that a new catagory or catagories should be added to the class.

In addition to 'Freestyle' and 'Race' we should add 'Trails/Dirt' ... what do you reckon?

Maybe even 'Freestyle' needs breaking down to 'Street' and 'Ramp/Park' ...  even a 'Flatland' section?

To me it just felt like while judging that a lots of bikes were getting overlooked.

Food for thought anyway :-)
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: chubby on January 04, 2018, 11:06 PM
That's alot of judging Ed...

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Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 04, 2018, 11:09 PM
That's alot of judging Ed...

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Big turnout ... lots of bikes ... more judges ... more classes  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 04, 2018, 11:11 PM
we split into pairs this year ... 2 for freestyle 2 for race ... you still have look at the same number of bikes ... it just give more chance for great builds to be recognised  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: chubby on January 04, 2018, 11:12 PM
Was alot of bikes that never made it to the tent too.....
Only need judges

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Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: chubby on January 04, 2018, 11:17 PM
Was alot of bikes that never made it to the tent too.....
Only need judges

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Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Gra_goose on January 05, 2018, 12:16 AM
Agree with splitting categories as there are much more definition between them, unlike with old school, could even be worth the next size up rent if numbers continue to increase.


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Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 05, 2018, 12:25 AM
Bmx changed a lot through the mid school years so suppose it's only right to recognise that... think the great turnout justifies the need.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 05, 2018, 12:29 AM
We coulda filled two tent last year.  :slayer:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Steviej40 on January 05, 2018, 03:32 AM
Great idea! How about, to keep it lean:

Best Freestyle/Vert
Best Flatland
Best Race
Best Dirt/Trails
Best Survivor

Flatland and Dirt/Trails should defo be represented IMHO because they were essentially pioneered in that era.

Loving your work lads.

 fistblump
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: midschooljon on January 05, 2018, 01:15 PM
Great idea! How about, to keep it lean:

Best Freestyle/Vert
Best Flatland
Best Race
Best Dirt/Trails
Best Survivor

Flatland and Dirt/Trails should defo be represented IMHO because they were essentially pioneered in that era.

Loving your work lads.

 fistblump

Agree with the above. Survivor is a tricky one though. Does it have to be displayed as found? Or is anything that is built with parts that haven't been refinished automatically a survivor? There have been interesting debates around this in the old school section.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Steviej40 on January 05, 2018, 02:10 PM
Great idea! How about, to keep it lean:

Best Freestyle/Vert
Best Flatland
Best Race
Best Dirt/Trails
Best Survivor

Flatland and Dirt/Trails should defo be represented IMHO because they were essentially pioneered in that era.

Loving your work lads.

 fistblump

Agree with the above. Survivor is a tricky one though. Does it have to be displayed as found? Or is anything that is built with parts that haven't been refinished automatically a survivor? There have been interesting debates around this in the old school section.

Yeah a tough one but not impossible to set some rules. Maybe any bike that was kept or bought with the parts, decals, etc that have survived since the bike was originally bought or built but perhaps allowing additions which are also ‘survivor’ parts? With judges marking down on repop or ‘new’ additions? So NOS additions from the era would be OK?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 05, 2018, 03:36 PM
Great idea! How about, to keep it lean:

Best Freestyle/Vert
Best Flatland
Best Race
Best Dirt/Trails
Best Survivor

Flatland and Dirt/Trails should defo be represented IMHO because they were essentially pioneered in that era.

Loving your work lads.

 fistblump

Agree with the above. Survivor is a tricky one though. Does it have to be displayed as found? Or is anything that is built with parts that haven't been refinished automatically a survivor? There have been interesting debates around this in the old school section.

Yeah a tough one but not impossible to set some rules. Maybe any bike that was kept or bought with the parts, decals, etc that have survived since the bike was originally bought or built but perhaps allowing additions which are also ‘survivor’ parts? With judges marking down on repop or ‘new’ additions? So NOS additions from the era would be OK?

Think we can make our own rules up regarding survivors but NOS parts has gotta be a no no.  "nono"
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: pickle on January 05, 2018, 09:44 PM
You going then Ed?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 05, 2018, 09:47 PM
I won't be doing a weekender ... just hit and run with Len on Sunday to ride whatever Rob has built but I still have an interest in making MK18 work for midschool like it does for old school ... things are moving on and MK needs to move with them.

New Catagories proposed :

MS Freestyle/Vert
MS Flatland
MS Race
MS Dirt/Trails
MS Survivor

The only one I'd dispute would be 'Survivor' ... mid school is based around bikes that have been ridden and used ... anyone who is judging Mid School would know that ... blingy mid school bikes didn't rate as highly as authentic looking survivors to me when I judged.... but its good that different judges should look for different things every year ... mixes things up ...

So I'd suggest a change to :

MS Freestyle/Vert
MS Flatland

MS Race
MS Dirt/Trails


You'd probably still only need 2/3 judges doing the Freestyle/Flat and 2/3 doing Race/Dirt

Nick ... you need to push this to Nick, Rich and Bob if you think its got legs  :4_17_5:

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: griff on January 06, 2018, 12:54 AM
Is it time for the annual ‘when was midschool anyway?’ debate yet?

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 06, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nick ... you need to push this to Nick, Rich and Bob if you think its got legs  :4_17_5:

I'll have a word our kid.  ;)
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: midschooljon on January 07, 2018, 12:25 PM
Great idea! How about, to keep it lean:

Best Freestyle/Vert
Best Flatland
Best Race
Best Dirt/Trails
Best Survivor

Flatland and Dirt/Trails should defo be represented IMHO because they were essentially pioneered in that era.

Loving your work lads.

 fistblump

Agree with the above. Survivor is a tricky one though. Does it have to be displayed as found? Or is anything that is built with parts that haven't been refinished automatically a survivor? There have been interesting debates around this in the old school section.

Yeah a tough one but not impossible to set some rules. Maybe any bike that was kept or bought with the parts, decals, etc that have survived since the bike was originally bought or built but perhaps allowing additions which are also ‘survivor’ parts? With judges marking down on repop or ‘new’ additions? So NOS additions from the era would be OK?

Think we can make our own rules up regarding survivors but NOS parts has gotta be a no no.  "nono"

Agree that NOS and survivor cant exist on the same build and still be called a Survivor.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Nbevan83 on January 07, 2018, 11:46 PM
Happy to go with whatever you feel is best, last year I did mention that a few of the boys I was with had a fair amount of mid school bikes to share but didn’t really hear much back and that’s why there was a tent half way down the camping field where we all were
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: midschooljon on January 08, 2018, 04:57 PM
Happy to go with whatever you feel is best, last year I did mention that a few of the boys I was with had a fair amount of mid school bikes to share but didn’t really hear much back and that’s why there was a tent half way down the camping field where we all were

If you want to show and shine you just just enter them. Its not like you have to hear back from anyone. Its mot everyones cup of tea thoug, which is why there are bikes spread out all over the camp site.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 08, 2018, 05:05 PM
Its good that Mid School was represented so well at MK over both days ... whether is was spread out on Saturday or all in one place on Sunday ... the fact that the number of bikes shown was off the scale was what mattered.

Based on last year it makes total sense to add Flatland and Trails/Dirt to the categories in the same way that 'street' and 'NS Retro' expand the Old School entries.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: adrian4130 on January 09, 2018, 03:11 PM
Most of the guys i was with only brought a tatse of their mid bikes and only a few of them made it into the main tent, as nick mentioned halfway down the campsite there was another tent rammed with mid bikes - well until it blew away  :whistle: we could probably fill a tent just with S&M's.
Last year was my first MK and will definitely be bringing more this year, more specific categories will be awesome   :slayer:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 09, 2018, 04:15 PM
It's official... new categories:

Race
Freestyle
Dirt /Trails
Flatland

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: CustardLips on January 09, 2018, 04:17 PM
Will be looking for folk willing to judge the show and shine... anybody up for it gimme a shout.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Dannywhac on January 09, 2018, 06:16 PM
Hey, aceness. Glad the ms went really well this last mk.

Could I make a teensie ickle suggestion that the freestyle category is renamed to street - I'm being a ms snob, but freestyle is a bit, well, 1980's (don't lynch me you lot)  :radbmxsmilie: :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on January 09, 2018, 06:48 PM
What about :

Race
Street / Park
Dirt /Trails
Flatland
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Dannywhac on January 09, 2018, 06:51 PM
Perfecto!
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: retrofreak on January 09, 2018, 08:42 PM
I agree with the new categories!,

I just don't think that clean looking bikes should be penalised, after all it is a "Show and Shine".
Mid School wasn't solely about industrial looking bikes with dull colours,  South Sea Flatland comps were filled with wall to wall chrome bling, just saying.

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 14, 2018, 10:47 PM
So what’s happening with mid school for mk18?

Tent?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: griff on May 15, 2018, 10:32 AM
So what’s happening with mid school for mk18?

Tent?

short answer...

YES  fistblump

more to follow once it's all been figured out
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 15, 2018, 08:22 PM
So what’s happening with mid school for mk18?

Tent?

short answer...

YES  fistblump

more to follow once it's all been figured out

fookin ACE
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Ste on May 16, 2018, 06:21 AM
Awesome griff, last year was nuts  explosion
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 16, 2018, 12:04 PM
you need to speak to Griff and get involved Set … make it happen  fistblump
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on May 20, 2018, 08:06 AM


The aggro you  cause ed, and you only goin Sunday ....lol
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on May 20, 2018, 10:19 AM
I know zero about midschool, but those categories sound great. It gives some of the less shiny and instantly stand out bikes their chance to shine (pardon the pun)
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: griff on May 20, 2018, 01:42 PM
It wasn’t just done on the street though

I propose we call it ‘stunts’ instead  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 21, 2018, 01:24 PM
So....

I reckon I was one of the very first midschoolers on this forum. It would have been me, Laz, Harris and just a couple of others. Well, at least that's my memory of it. Long before there was ever a dedicated section.

I was once asked to judge an old school show and shine at a RAD doo at Creation skatepark. I'm pretty sure I upset a few folk and was never asked again   :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:

With this in mind and assuming you mid school bitches have slightly thicker skin I would be happy to judge Mid School this MK.

Just don't coming running to me whining that you didn't win....   >:D

Come to think of it, if you're a proper midschooler you won't be able to run, so don't come limping to me whining that you didn't win.

Come to think of it, if you're a proper midschooler you don't whine.

So that's alright then.

Happy to help.

You're welcome.

Carry on  :LolLolLolLol:


*Edited for grammar. fook you Ed*

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: fugazi on May 21, 2018, 01:38 PM
You could’ve judged mid last year Rob, but roped me into it!  :LolLolLolLol: :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 21, 2018, 01:47 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about   ;D

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 21, 2018, 02:01 PM
Ruined by sigining off with 'Carry One'

Surely a pedant such as yourself reads back what he writted (sic)?

 :buck2: ;D
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 21, 2018, 02:04 PM
Runined by sigining off with 'Carry One'

Surely a pedant such as yourself reads back what he writted (sic)?

 :buck2: ;D


You spelt 'off' wrong.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 21, 2018, 02:36 PM
Runined by sigining off with 'Carry One'

Surely a pedant such as yourself reads back what he writted (sic)?

 :buck2: ;D


You spelt 'off' wrong.

I diddunt

I vote Rob for MK18 Judge  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Dannywhac on May 21, 2018, 04:01 PM
I vote Rob for MK18 Judge  :4_17_5:

Fo schizzle.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: fugazi on May 21, 2018, 04:14 PM

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I vote Rob for MK18 Judge  :4_17_5:
[/quote]

Agreed  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 21, 2018, 04:26 PM
Just know what you're voting for - I won't be taking any prisoners :D
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 21, 2018, 04:56 PM
PS. you made a typographical error not a grammatical one  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 21, 2018, 05:00 PM
Potential judges :

TwoBobRob aka CarryOneRon
Ste Joseph ( last years winner )
Philbert ( a judging staple )

who else?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: TwoBobRob on May 21, 2018, 05:13 PM
PS. you made a typographical error not a grammatical one  :coolsmiley:

As you are very well aware - I have no formal education. On those grounds I think I do quite well.

So fook you and the boat you came in on/horse you rode in on/plane you flew in on.

 :LolLolLolLol:

Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: ED209 on May 21, 2018, 05:15 PM
I consider myself fooked  :-X

 ;)
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: griff on May 21, 2018, 05:18 PM
Potential judges :

TwoBobRob aka CarryOneRon
Ste Joseph ( last years winner )
Philbert ( a judging staple )

who else?

Trevor Henry?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: fugazi on May 21, 2018, 05:20 PM
Potential judges :

TwoBobRob aka CarryOneRon
Ste Joseph ( last years winner )
Philbert ( a judging staple )

who else?

 :whistle: :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: griff on May 21, 2018, 06:46 PM
Potential judges :

TwoBobRob aka CarryOneRon
Ste Joseph ( last years winner )
Philbert ( a judging staple )

who else?

 :whistle: :yahoo_silent:

If only there was someone else we could think of that was into Mid School  ::)

Shane can you think of such a person?

:teef:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: fugazi on May 21, 2018, 10:24 PM
Potential judges :

TwoBobRob aka CarryOneRon
Ste Joseph ( last years winner )
Philbert ( a judging staple )

who else?

 :whistle: :yahoo_silent:

If only there was someone else we could think of that was into Mid School  ::)

Shane can you think of such a person?

:teef:

Sorry mate, drawing a blank here?!
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Retrodan72 on May 21, 2018, 10:41 PM
Jeff Gough aka stillriding knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Ste on May 22, 2018, 05:19 PM
 :daumenhoch: :4_17_5:
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: midschooljon on May 24, 2018, 05:00 PM
Last year the mid bikes were overflowing out of the mid school tent. Are we having the same size tent again? And if so, is there a plan if we have more bikes than space?
Title: Re: Mid School at MK18
Post by: Ste on May 24, 2018, 05:43 PM
good point if there is more mid bikes than last year you’ll have to crawl over them. I prefer the security of having my bikes inside the tent so I guess it’s just an early one to get a good spot.
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