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Title: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 06, 2018, 11:14 AM
Seemed cheap, threw a cheap bid at it and won to my surprise.
What to do with it is my next question. Doubt i will ever find forks so thinking along the lines of a rolling development build.
Maybe go a lightweight route?

Open to ideas chaps  :)
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on April 06, 2018, 11:36 AM
Vive la France! :daumenhoch:

Got any pics?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 06, 2018, 11:45 AM
She has a damaged seat tube but they did a model with an intergrated seat clamp so i may have a go at modding the little grub nut underneath the cast section to form a seat clamp of sorts  :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 06, 2018, 12:29 PM
Thinking of echoing the cast delta shape seatstay section with something along these lines


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on April 06, 2018, 12:51 PM
That looks cool as fook. Get bodging Clint! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Taipan on April 06, 2018, 03:28 PM
 :popcorn:  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 06, 2018, 09:44 PM
Anyone got any interesting rims, weinmann, Spencer etc?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on April 06, 2018, 10:04 PM
Got a seat clamp / frame stander & some pegs if you need em  fistblump






P:S do t like it in ere, it's weird........
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 10, 2018, 01:47 PM
Had a spare few mins in my lunch brake to have a play with a few leverage priciples. Its a very rough mock up but answered a few questions about materials needed and lever travel  :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: MartyC on April 11, 2018, 02:33 PM
She has a damaged seat tube but they did a model with an intergrated seat clamp so i may have a go at modding the little grub nut underneath the cast section to form a seat clamp of sorts  :daumenhoch:

I think that's how it actually works as it looks very similar to my old Vitus road bike frame from bitd, that had a flush top tube/seat tube with a grub screw to tighten the seatpost.  Used a 25mm seat post with a 6mm allen head grub screw iirc too.
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 20, 2018, 02:46 PM
Vitus finally turned up today. Wow how light!!

Looks in decent nick generally but the seat mast does have its top missing (it isnt the internal clamp model)
Plan is to grind the break square and add a small section of tubing to bring it flush with the casting. The grub screw in the back of the casting is thankfully big enough to use as a seapost clamp  :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 20, 2018, 02:47 PM
Anyone recognise the Juncker sticker. May be German or Dutch?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on April 20, 2018, 06:09 PM
Needs pegs.....

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on April 20, 2018, 08:37 PM
 :LolLolLolLol: sorry bud its crying out to to be a super light speed machine
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on April 20, 2018, 08:47 PM
LolLolLol: sorry bud its crying out to to be a super light speed machine
No bloody good for any of us then

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Andyboy77 on April 20, 2018, 09:11 PM
That brake looks really cool  8) . I like this thread already :daumenhoch:
What is this frame made of - aluminium?  I've never seen one of these before.
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: griff on April 20, 2018, 11:43 PM
That brake looks really cool  8) . I like this thread already :daumenhoch:
What is this frame made of - aluminium?  I've never seen one of these before.

Stidds had one, but sadly the pics have gone
They were made of aluminium, bonded instead of welded together
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: MartyC on April 22, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nice, very nice and great to see it is going to get the restoration it needs rather than being scrapped  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on April 22, 2018, 11:21 AM
Looks great Clint! Looking forward to seeing what you do with it! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Jaymz on April 22, 2018, 01:14 PM
Awesome
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 15, 2018, 10:17 PM
A frustrating afternoon trying every Alan key I have and splashing 12 notes on a random imperial set saw every one of them useless  >:(

Still don't know for sure but it looks like the little grub screw in the top of the seat stay casting is 4.5mm
3 shops later a decent one was finally ordered from some place in Germany....... I knew there was I reason I usually do freestyle builds  ;D
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 22, 2018, 11:11 PM
Well the Alan key turned up and was swiftly cobbed down the end of the workshop. Didnt fookin fit!
On closer inspection it looks for all the world like the alan headed grub screw tapers in from 4.5mm at the top to approx 4mm at the bottom
What The Fook!!!!!

Had a go 3 or 4 times to file the retreived alan key to a taper. Deffo helped but the grub screw is fooked so now need drilling out  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on May 24, 2018, 09:34 AM
Time to get bodging me thinks! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 29, 2018, 05:03 PM
Getting nowhere fast with this bloody thing  :(
Because of the angle of the seatstays its impossible to drill the grub screw out with anything other than an extra long bit. Finally got a hole through but need to gradually inlarge it which has already cost me 2 blunt drill bits. This fooking grub screw is made from unobtainium  :(

Anyways, need some thoughts on restoring the top of the seatmast. Given any potential future sale and the new owners unawareness of the broken mast do i:

A. Bond a small section of new tube in to bring the mast flush with the casting, using a new grub screw as a seatclamp

B. Bond a longer section of tube in with a classic keyhole slot to the correct height. It would still use a new grubscrew for seatclamping but allow the mounting of a "show" seatclamp

The fear is that somewhere down the line someone doesnt realise and uses the show clamp as the only clamping for a seatpost, with predictable injury following  :-\




Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: HUTCHMAN on May 29, 2018, 06:27 PM
now you've got a hole through the grub screw, would an easyout finish the job ?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 31, 2018, 09:29 PM
Well that was a ballache! alot more than it should have been to be fair, but i was keen to take my time and get it right.
was aiming to run an M8 grub screw but once i had got the hole wide enough it was clear the remnants of the previous grub screw thread would interfere with the clean cutting of a new thread.

Went up to an M10, and glad i did. Had a lovely clean hole to work with and once tapped i had 5 threads. A little more than you would find an a regular M10 nut, so plenty to get a decent fix on a seatpost.

Time to ge shopping for parts  :D


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on June 02, 2018, 12:19 AM
You're the man! Now get this baby built! :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on June 23, 2018, 05:44 PM
Much swearing, throwing of scraps of metal down the workshop and general annoyance later i finally have this pupper under manners. Squaring off the broken tube inside the casting was a massive headache, as was the temporary seatpost i managed to get stuck while trial sizing the inside of the new section of tube  ::)
Not to be bested the second attempt worked a treat and she is more or less ready for a seatpost including the beast of a new grub screw :daumenhoch:

Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on June 23, 2018, 06:01 PM
Another beautiful bodge

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on June 24, 2018, 02:09 AM
Much swearing, throwing of scraps of metal down the workshop and general annoyance later i finally have this pupper under manners.

Thought you were talking about Dan there for a moment! :daumenhoch:

Top skills Clint! :bow:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on July 09, 2018, 12:43 PM
Had a quick go with my revamped hone and the mast looks much smoother now. The faint grey line radiating from the grub screw hole is the joint where i added the small section of tube. Luckily the jb weld sets the same colour as the original joint bonding agent so externally the joint looks authentic  :daumenhoch:


Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 18, 2019, 09:36 PM
Mk on the horizon and nowt interesting found fork wise, I have, in my wisdom, decided i need some vitus forks.
With the chance of finding some slim to none at best I've bought some road forks with the idea of cutting them down  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on May 18, 2019, 09:38 PM
Need to bin this race shite pal..

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 18, 2019, 10:01 PM
:D last on, I promise  :D
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: griff on May 19, 2019, 07:15 AM
Loving this thread  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 21, 2019, 10:46 AM
this could be an interesting day  :D

Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: In2bmx on May 21, 2019, 12:32 PM
 :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:  :LolLolLolLol:   You need some  DC  MX4000  .. Job done  :D
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 21, 2019, 12:36 PM
well that was easier than expected! A band saw and a blowtorch later....
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on May 21, 2019, 01:07 PM
Fooked now

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 21, 2019, 08:54 PM
very quick mockup when I got in. well happy! just need to find some sort of reamer now to taper the inside of the legs for the dropouts
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Spen69 on May 21, 2019, 09:12 PM
Loving this thread  :daumenhoch:

X2 John, this is just awesome bodgery......  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: HUTCHMAN on May 21, 2019, 09:24 PM
Those forks SOOO suit the frame... staying with the bend ?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 21, 2019, 09:32 PM
Cheers gents. yeah once cut to the exact length they will have a slight flair a bit like Dyno forks but probably not as prominent
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: chubby on May 21, 2019, 09:44 PM
Look alright them

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Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: HUTCHMAN on May 21, 2019, 09:55 PM
going to bond the drop outs in ?
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 21, 2019, 09:57 PM
going to bond the drop outs in ?

yep, jb weld dries exactly the same colour as the existing bonding so that's the way to go  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Jaymz on May 21, 2019, 10:15 PM
Winning
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 25, 2019, 03:41 PM
Next job is to taper the fork ends internally to accept the drops. Thought this might be a bit of a mare and alot of hand filing but a quick search came up Trump's  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: BMX1973 on May 25, 2019, 05:53 PM
You are putting a lot of effort into that build. The results look great so far. :)
Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: oldschoolace on May 25, 2019, 06:26 PM
fooking love a spot of serendipity. the reamer I bought has the same angle as the dropout cone  :4_17_5:

Title: Re: So i just bought a Vitus frame
Post by: Mikku on June 15, 2019, 09:58 AM
Serendipity or the BMX Gods lending you a helping hand!? Either way I love how this is going Clint, and look forward to the next instalment! :bow:
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