Post by: griff on June 08, 2018, 10:09 AM
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on June 08, 2018, 10:16 AM
Post by: oldschoolace on June 08, 2018, 11:33 AM
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on June 08, 2018, 11:40 AM
Post by: Pooch on June 08, 2018, 11:42 AM
Post by: factory pilot on June 08, 2018, 12:06 PM
No way ... there are enough of us who bloody love this thing to make sure it WILL happen again!
Post by: griff on June 08, 2018, 01:16 PM
WTF!!!!!!
No way ... there are enough of us who bloody love this thing to make sure it WILL happen again!
you'd be surprised Ant
No-one's in this for glory but sometimes it's not worth the aggro
I'm 100% behind making this year as good as we can make it but once it's over I think I'm done
In any case it's the location that limits what can be done there, last year we were pretty much at capacity
Post by: Bigfrawg on June 08, 2018, 01:38 PM
Post by: Retrodan72 on June 08, 2018, 01:46 PM
It's not an easy event to put on now.
Post by: hotdog on June 08, 2018, 01:53 PM
In any case it's the location that limits what can be done there, last year we were pretty much at capacity
Personally I wouldn't want it to get any bigger for fear of it losing its 8)
Post by: Tachikoma on June 08, 2018, 02:21 PM
Loved every second of every one i've been to.
Post by: griff on June 08, 2018, 02:22 PM
First off
No-one has to come for the entire weekend (or at all for that matter) but the ticket prices were carefully calculated to get us as close to covering costs as possible
None of the radmins get a single penny out of the Rad pot - in fact quite the opposite, you usually find that they've paid over the top as well as giving up their own time. If you added up all the time taken to do 'boring' stuff and tried to get people to do it commercially you'd struggle
As for charging for kids this year? They are very welcome of course but they still take up room if camping etc and they will still get fed & watered for free on Saturday. If someone wants to have a very cheap family day out there's still the option to come on Sunday and not pay a single penny. £10 in a pub on Saturday anywhere wouldn't last long even buying kids' drinks would it?
Even with the money from site tags, charging for tickets and selling stuff like calendars and tee shirts it's still a massive challenge putting this event on at this price - I know because I'm looking at the budget right now - here are some of the highlights (although it's by no means an exhaustive list)
Marquees
Public Liability Insurance
PA
Generator
Ramp Construction
24hr Security
First Aid
Toilets
Skips
Free Bar
Hog Roast
Trophies
That little lot is well over 10 grand and that's before we even get Bob H over from the US of A
Dunno why I feel the need to explain anything, people should know the score by now
:angrysoapbox:
Post by: oldschoolace on June 08, 2018, 02:24 PM
Post by: Tachikoma on June 08, 2018, 04:11 PM
Not for the first time I've been informed that the MK ticket charges are apparently a 'piss take'Fook me :rant:, how is 25 quid for a full weekend a piss take?, that wouldn't even get you a gt seat clamp off the bay.
Since I'm over again this year I guess I'll be on litter duty with our clint, chubs and dave again :)
Post by: McQUEEN on June 08, 2018, 04:21 PM
Fook em off Griff, if they dont like the prices they can sit at home with the handbag in there ear >:(x2
Post by: In2bmx on June 08, 2018, 04:48 PM
Post by: Testcard on June 08, 2018, 05:42 PM
I was confused the first couple of years how you financed the event (now i know)
i have been in the events industry for 20 years and put simply you dont charge enough
I hope you re-evaluate over the coming year
Post by: griff on June 08, 2018, 06:14 PM
Last year we had to comply with safety regs, put security on the gate and charge for tickets - some people complained that we were taking the piss
This year we had to increase the price a bit to stay on budget and pay the upfront costs - some people complained that we are taking the piss
In a nutshell
I still expect we’ll sell out to a fantastic bunch of people all set on having a great time all weekend for less than the cost of a round in a London pub
Anyone who wants to come on Sunday and not pay a bean is very welcome
Anyone who has a problem with any of the above can do one :daumenhoch:
Post by: Retrodan72 on June 08, 2018, 06:18 PM
That old chestnut.. bmxlife will just take it over.. it’ll be shit, but still happen ::)
Very true and good luck to them, there's just 2 massive issues for them.
1) what ever they do, :radbmxsmilie: will have done it first. :4_17_5:
2) they don't have a forum, so organising it to the extent and quality that :radbmxsmilie: have already done will be a headache. Imagine trying to sort out an event to the scale of MK, only using FB. Initially it will be ok as the post will go out telling people of venue, date etc, but this will soon be stamped down by the countless sales posts for overpriced/refinished parts and ridiculous clown bikes.
MK is a unique event delivered by a unique community, long may it continue*.
*in some for or another.
Post by: In2bmx on June 08, 2018, 07:04 PM
true . major issues .That old chestnut.. bmxlife will just take it over.. it’ll be shit, but still happen ::)
Very true and good luck to them, there's just 2 massive issues for them.
1) what ever they do, :radbmxsmilie: will have done it first. :4_17_5:
2) they don't have a forum, so organising it to the extent and quality that :radbmxsmilie: have already done will be a headache. Imagine trying to sort out an event to the scale of MK, only using FB. Initially it will be ok as the post will go out telling people of venue, date etc, but this will soon be stamped down by the countless sales posts for overpriced/refinished parts and ridiculous clown bikes.
MK is a unique event delivered by a unique community, long may it continue*.
*in some for or another.
Their numbers mean nothing.
The friendship of RADsters and times we have shared makes it a community !
Post by: Avro on June 08, 2018, 07:49 PM
I am more determined than ever to chat to more of you this time, something I failed miserably to do last time! I will also bring bikes again to add to the show, may even enter one or two as I think they are sweeeeet!
Again, sad to read a little despondancy in your post. Is there anything the average member can do? Litter pick? Help fold it all down?
Post by: cheeta on June 08, 2018, 08:29 PM
If it ends, it ends, I've had some amazing memories from such a short space of time.
Last year I saw what went into only the build side, I couldn't imagine how all the organising and prep is sorted. People forget its not some special event like Glasto were people are paid to organise everything, the RAD MK creators and planners have to go to work and a life to live, all the numpties that moan and moan about the changes to MK seem to forget that.
Post by: factory pilot on June 08, 2018, 09:07 PM
I imagine it can be a right ball-ache at times organising such an event, someone has to dot the i's and cross the t's; boring stuff but without it there would not be an event. I am so surprised that some think the cost is high, what planet are they from?
I am more determined than ever to chat to more of you this time, something I failed miserably to do last time! I will also bring bikes again to add to the show, may even enter one or two as I think they are sweeeeet!
Again, sad to read a little despondancy in your post. Is there anything the average member can do? Litter pick? Help fold it all down?
Will be good to see you there Peter... definitely come over and say hello bro fistblump
Post by: stu27 on June 08, 2018, 09:08 PM
Not for the first time I've been informed that the MK ticket charges are apparently a 'piss take'I can not believe there’s people out there that think the price of entry is a “piss take”
First off
No-one has to come for the entire weekend (or at all for that matter) but the ticket prices were carefully calculated to get us as close to covering costs as possible
None of the radmins get a single penny out of the Rad pot - in fact quite the opposite, you usually find that they've paid over the top as well as giving up their own time. If you added up all the time taken to do 'boring' stuff and tried to get people to do it commercially you'd struggle
As for charging for kids this year? They are very welcome of course but they still take up room if camping etc and they will still get fed & watered for free on Saturday. If someone wants to have a very cheap family day out there's still the option to come on Sunday and not pay a single penny. £10 in a pub on Saturday anywhere wouldn't last long even buying kids' drinks would it?
Even with the money from site tags, charging for tickets and selling stuff like calendars and tee shirts it's still a massive challenge putting this event on at this price - I know because I'm looking at the budget right now - here are some of the highlights (although it's by no means an exhaustive list)
Marquees
Public Liability Insurance
PA
Generator
Ramp Construction
24hr Security
First Aid
Toilets
Skips
Free Bar
Hog Roast
Trophies
That little lot is well over 10 grand and that's before we even get Bob H over from the US of A
Dunno why I feel the need to explain anything, people should know the score by now
:angrysoapbox:
Free bar on Saturday
A few bargains to buy,well worth the coin
I mean fook me,it’s not a cheap hobby is it!?!?
Bet they’d do 20 odd quid on a bloody nos nipple to go on their nos cable
I bet to man,not one of them would say it to your face it’s a “piss take”
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on June 08, 2018, 10:00 PM
Post by: griff on June 08, 2018, 10:05 PM
£25 a pisstake. Whoever said that is an idiot. Refund their money!!
Think they were referring to charging kids a tenner
Post by: cheeta on June 08, 2018, 10:49 PM
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Post by: PHIL9HUF on June 09, 2018, 02:07 AM
Anybody that thinks it aint and moans about the price they can fook right off :Aresehole:
Post by: stuntmaster on June 09, 2018, 10:06 AM
Post by: Gashead on June 09, 2018, 10:11 AM
Post by: That Swan Guy on June 09, 2018, 10:32 AM
There’s some greedy selfish fookers out there!
You have my support in whatever guise it takes :daumenhoch:
Great work by all involved
Post by: SDF on June 09, 2018, 10:40 AM
I'm guessing the people who state that £25.00 is a piss take must still buy there parts from a magical shop that is full wall to wall of original eighties parts at eighties prices, and even then the tickets would still be cheap, or the are complete and utter knobs and listen to Coldplay!
Post by: CustardLips on June 09, 2018, 11:23 AM
Or the are complete and utter knobs and listen to Coldplay!
:LolLolLolLol:
Post by: CustardLips on June 09, 2018, 11:25 AM
Post by: Gashead on June 09, 2018, 11:28 AM
Post by: richiebozza on June 09, 2018, 01:10 PM
Post by: Mikku on June 09, 2018, 10:21 PM
I wasn’t there to see them but if the size and cost of the event is becoming an issue, do you really need the big names there, particularly from the US? That might make things more manageable generally. Just thinking out loud, so please feel free to tell me to shut up and/or sod off! :daumenhoch:
Post by: Spen69 on June 10, 2018, 10:37 AM
I am very lucky to have been to MK in many different forms over the last decade and am really looking forward to having my kids and the missus with me this year so they get to see what I've been going on about all these years. If it continues in another form I hope to keep coming as it truly is THE highlight of the BMX calendar by miles :coolsmiley:
See you there :daumenhoch:
Post by: midschooljon on June 10, 2018, 10:59 AM
As far as passing the torch I fully appreciate that some things reach the end of their life span, and the work involved must be a tremendous effort. With that said, all of your effort is truly appreciated, and for every "piss taker" there are hundreds of us who truly value what you guys are doing. Hats off to all of you involved. :daumenhoch:
Post by: dordymush on June 10, 2018, 02:31 PM
Mk has always been the no1 meet up for us old bmx nutters and I for one will be sad to see it go.
Some great memories over the years I've had at that ole track and made some of the best mates I've ever had in my life 😎.
Its not all about the bikes for me its more a chance to get to see the lads I've known for years but only get to see at mk.that will be the bit I'll miss most if it does end.
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on June 10, 2018, 03:13 PM
As ever, keep it :radbmxsmilie: :smitten:
Post by: TwoBobRob on June 10, 2018, 03:15 PM
MK costs me hundreds of pounds every year, even with the financial contribution from RAD and Eds T shirt initiative. I do it because it's fun, you get to meet some interesting people and shake hands with friends you don't see any other time.
How is that not worth £25 quid for you and a tenner for your little'uns?
Just fook off. It's embarrassing.
Post by: Pooch on June 10, 2018, 06:09 PM
Post by: Dannywhac on June 11, 2018, 03:37 PM
I've enjoyed a few MK's now (although works taken over me life at the mo), only ever had one sh1t experience there that lasted about 5 minutes (not being bumdered by Ed - that was lovely), I got to eat the burger of a mid-school hero of mine, get shuffle munsterered, look at some lovley bikes, chat sh1t and meet a lot of really v nice people. That and clear up everyones p1ss-filled beer bottles. I bloody love MK. I wish I could have been to more.
Post by: factory pilot on June 11, 2018, 06:14 PM
Although it may well be the last annual :radbmxsmilie: event held at MK, what’s to say we can’t do something elsewhere? The first annual weekender wasn’t at MK, so there’s no reason why we can’t hold it elsewhere. RAD has evolved over the years, with some of the original founders no longer involved and new people have stepped up throughout the years and done their bit. I’d like to think this will continue over the forthcoming years to keep RAD going strong for the next generation of radsters.I for one am determined to keep RAD and it’s annual weekender going strong, wherever it may be, and will gladly do whatever I can to make it happen. I’m sure there are others who feel the same.
As ever, keep it :radbmxsmilie: :smitten:
Well said Andy .. totally agree with all you’ve written.
I absolutely love MK but I would happily like to put myself forward to contribute in anyway big or small to ensure that a amazing RAD event would continue in some shape or form.
I don’t think those of us on the outside can truly comprehend the complexity of putting on such an event as MK.
Whovever or whatever comes next has got to match a very high bar set by Nick, Rich, Bob, Griff et al.
I’m sure I speak for many when I say a massive heartfelt thank you for all your time and efforts for this and all the previous MKs I’ve had the privilege of attending.
Let’s all make MK18 one to remember! :4_17_5:
Post by: chubby on June 11, 2018, 09:45 PM
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Post by: pickle on June 12, 2018, 10:21 AM
Post by: Retrodan72 on June 12, 2018, 11:50 AM
Why's Bob coming again ???
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Sharpie must be launching a new range to promote.
Post by: chubby on June 12, 2018, 12:30 PM
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Post by: Bigbadsam on June 12, 2018, 11:36 PM
And even a friggin wedding last year, how cool was that !
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Post by: Hmoon27 on June 14, 2018, 10:08 PM
Post by: griff on June 14, 2018, 11:10 PM
If I pay cash, will you do me two tickets for £48😉😉
Throw in a topless hand shandy and you’re on :daumenhoch:
Post by: Mongo4130 on July 05, 2018, 03:40 PM
I guess as the saying goes; you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Let's hope it goes ahead next year, I'm already paused to book the hotel and haven't even attended this years yet, that's how much I love it!
Thanks to all who make this happen.
Post by: griff on July 05, 2018, 05:11 PM
This event is extremely good value and I just can't understand why people would even consider complaining.
I guess as the saying goes; you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Let's hope it goes ahead next year, I'm already paused to book the hotel and haven't even attended this years yet, that's how much I love it!
Thanks to all who make this happen.
Check the hotels thread just in case there are any discounted rooms left on the allocation
Might not be but wouldn't hurt to check
Post by: ED209 on July 05, 2018, 07:06 PM
Post by: chubby on July 05, 2018, 07:28 PM
Where's MK being held this year?My house
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Post by: Jon1971 on July 06, 2018, 09:22 AM