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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Midschoolfool on June 17, 2018, 03:30 PM
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"Big, American, heavy and hard to fly". Perfect.
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Back in '97 I had a 96 STA.
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AKA "The Standard Standard". Mostly because everything on it that could be a SBC part was. So bars (4pc strip) stem, fork, frame, seat post, seat clamp. The only thing it really wanted was a 3pc but they were still very expensive then. You were looking at £200 for a hookup and then a sprocket on top.
Any way, time has gone by and I've built a few bikes now so I fancied doing something that I had actually owned. I found a busted STA on Ebay for £70.
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Well, when I say busted what I really mean is "Some guy cut off the brake so he could run micro drive".
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Poorly. I wouldn't mind, but he then sent it for powder. Why? why not sort it properly? IDK man, people huh?
Any way, the frame arrived and I bought myself one of these.
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And.
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I will be working on the brake plate. Having fitted a Boomerang the other week to my Carlo Griggs bike I know that with some patience you can do it without strapping it down.
I found a 2012 Stolen Score for £199 delivered.
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Which provided me with nearly all of the parts I needed. Obs a couple of things were needed so seat clamp.
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Chain (you will see why shortly)
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Sprocket (28t, bigger than the 25 I got with the Stolen)
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Nice quality, nice and thick.
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Design
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And.
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My mate has a mill and is machining it for me. Whilst that is being done I ordered blue brake cables.
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Skin wall 110PSI (Fly Campillera)
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Bar ends (blue)
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Brake pads.
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And a BB adapter (already got a 19mm Euro BB)
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OK so I then basically drew up all of the graphics so I could cut them myself and did a test cut.
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I then drew the rest.
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Now I was going to put this on the chainstay.
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But at that point my brain kicked in and said "Sod it, just do it custom and badass" And thus, here is what I drew.
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And the TT decal.
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Nice build idea! Loving the 80s freestyle keyboard :daumenhoch:
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Cheers Ace ! I have a thing for tiny keyboards. That is my home one, with "miami" keys on. At my mother's I have the same board (only with brown switches instead of blues) and "French Fries"
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Quite funny really, the keys costing almost twice as much as the keyboard lol. Needs must I guess :D
Decal sheet 1 is now complete.
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Just a couple of small ones to do. This is what I will be using. Mirror blue chrome.
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I think what really inspired me was getting ripped for £35 every time I wanted a sheet of stickers. I know that dudes have a living to make, but there are various sites on the bay that will print stickers on enormous sheets for practically nothing. Only one problem, I don't know how to draw in vectors. So I am stuck on Photoshop. However, what I can do is draw scaled decals as silhouettes to then cut.
I pay £1.98 for three A4 sheets of that stuff up there. A full set of decals will probably use two sheets......
But yeah. This time I just decided to f**k it and to hell with tradition and rules. A couple of times I have tried to keep my bike as period correct and etc as I can but IMO it spoils the end product. I've shaved off the brakes so what I have is very similar to the 93 proto that was brakeless.
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Amendum lol.
Frame is being powdered black by none other than SBD.
Edit to add, decals should be about done.
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I just need one of these. Will email Del in the morn.
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OK so today I began test cutting the decals. The first attempt was pretty bad. Not only did it drag the blade all over the vinyl (scratching it really bad) but certain things were not right.
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The rivets are simply too small.
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I did manage to rescue one damaged plane for a rough idea, though.
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So I refined the graphics for a couple of hours, then tried again. Sadly I am out of blue for now so I had to switch to scrap matt gold.
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Much better ! I also cut two planes, but it still needs a bit more meat on the front end.
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That's that done. I did cut some of the decals, then had a plotter malfunction on the last piece of vinyl I had. Doh.
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Nice! What did the machining set you back ( if you don't mind me asking)
I've always had the idea to waterjet myself a zeronine disc but it's a design that could easily be cut :)
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Nothing. A friend of mine bought a mill (manual) and a lathe last year so any time I need any small parts made or altered he does it for me. A few of my bikes are running on parts he made now and axle adaptors and so on.
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Great stuff, Love a bit of home brew :daumenhoch:
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this thread rules :4_17_5:
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"You can't teach an old dog new tricks".
No, probably not. But you can sort of teach an old man to ride a bowl. Sort of..
Had a meet up the other night with my mate and his kid. Now bear in mind I only ever rode street. No ramps, no bowls nothing (there just wasn't any to ride where I was in the mid school). Any way, we got to Southsea and my mate says "We should start on the ramps". I said "Nah, I wanna do bowls !". I had seen that shit where you come flying down, then use the momentum to whip you onto the walls. So I did this one twice.
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But of course as usual I wanted to go to the next level a bit too quickly, so got onto this one..
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First run down I was just laughing so much. God, what fun ! I decided first one to just ride up the bowl end and pop out.. Second run I went for it. Got myself up on the wall but it whips you around so quick you barely get a second to think. Before I knew it I was at the end of the bowl. I forgot to turn in.. So I got to the bit on the right and just slid from the top of it to the bottom.
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Skin and concrete doesn't mix :D
Still very high on adrenaline I decided to roll in from a ramp on the left and do the jump box here in the middle.
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Came flying down, went to pull up and the bars came back lmao. How I didn't die is a mystery. I knew then it was time to turn in for the night. An omen, if you will. Got to meet Effraim though which was KILLER.
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The bike is on hold now for a few days lol. Somehow waking up yesterday and getting through the day was more painful than scrubbing with an exfoliating sponge and then spraying on isoprop to make sure nothing got infected. Spent most of yesterday in bed feeling sorry for myself but it's scabbing over now.
I got in a large piece of mirror chrome blue vinyl, so maybe later today I will move onto trying to cut the two downtube decals :)
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Decided to give the new vinyl a try. Wow, so much better than the other stuff (which was like foil and easy to damage and kink !).
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Here are the others, but I may do these again on this new (better) vinyl.
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The 'Standard Byke Co' decals look a little like something a lady might buy from Ann Summers...
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The 'Standard Byke Co' decals look a little like something a lady might buy from Ann Summers...
Then vibra power are missing a trick.
Right I fitted the test cut decals last night and the planes have to go.
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I have two options. Lop off the tail, or just go with a simple "Enola Gay" in text using the font. I think I am going to go with the latter, then build a custom stand and put the plane decal on that :)
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Right, decided to stick to my original plan.
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Those will do. Now I just gotta pack it up and send it off to Dan.
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This was kinda important, given my frame is indeed OP.
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I was going to do a ton, then I realised I would only ever use one or maybe two tops lol.
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Oops, actually I lied. *now* I have a full set.
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I'm back. Loads of things conspired to stop me finishing this. First there was the crash at Southsea, then I had a chain snap on my Haro and smashed my knee in. Then winter happened, and I could not find any one to powder the frame locally and really didn't want to send it off. So it kinda stalled, with winter and other things all getting in the way.
Today I finally found a powder coater who can fit me in, so I am dropping off the frame fork and bars tomorrow. I still needed to find a decent rear brake for a drilled brake, so when this came up on Ebay (very expensively, but fook it)
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I had to. I also ordered this to save me from using the stubby post that came with the Stolen.
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And of course this, totally befitting the Enola Gay.
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I've got absolutely everything else, so with any luck in a couple of weeks I will be taking spanners to it.
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And the last of the parts. Given my 97 had Ame (and so did all of my other bikes during that time) I got these.
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I wanted Total Killabee tyres but they are killa expensive (like £45 per go) so I got these instead. They are totally fake "killa" tyres (they are actually called that)
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And then I got a chain.
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Parts in.
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Totally fake Killabees lol
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Bought these from Alan's last year. Very mid school, but haz nipplez. So I need to send them to friend with mill so they don't haz nipples anymore.
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You always forget something.....
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Nearly there now. Just waiting on these.
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Then I can fit them, the blue Ame grips and the bar ends.
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Man I thought I brought this to a conclusion. Seems not !
The decals started failing about a week after fitting them. The problem was that it was bubble free vinyl, which I have found doesn't grip as well as just flat vinyl. So I pulled them off and just stuck on some temp decals.
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I used it as transport for an entire summer. Lovely bike to ride tbh. Then the seat clamp snapped (split on one of the bolts) and the exposed fork started to rust. It was also bloody dirty. So I gave it a clean over and prepped it for the loft.
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And up it went. Then this pile of NOS SNAFU stuff came up on the bay.
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So I grabbed it. I also wanted a better more period correct brand of cranks on the bike so I got some Profile in black.
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Gonna use this seat and post combo I have left over.
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And then today I bought this.
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Still hunting decals. 98-04, and if you have a set and could take some up close decent pics I would be eternally grateful !
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Great thread this! explosion
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Thanks man. As you can tell, I love my bikes. Not just like them but love them. I think James May sums it up best in this...
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I was eying up that XUFO ages ago. Sadly life got in the way and I forgot, to the point it was literally the last 1 1/8 left. I wasn't sure about my chances of getting my buddy to mill out a 1" one...
Any way that is on way. To demonstrate the mess my mind is in at the moment I had totally forgotten I had one on my orange STA, but wanted one any way. Good thing that at least a part of my brain still works...
I love riding this bike. I wouldn't dare try anything on it due to the weight and my age now, but yeah for some reason when I get on it I feel right at home. It's just got that lovely classic geo. As thus like I mentioned I rode it an entire summer.
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Unlike my 29" you can actually get it through train barriers very easily, without getting trapped half way desperately not trying to drop your beloved orange PK. I also had no qualms about throwing it around either, as I know it can take it.
I'd even go so far as putting genuine mid school wheels on, as there are some Rhinos and etc on Ebay atm. Thing is? I know it's just a whole load more weight. The wheels I have on it now are the only real new school part left, but I also know they are much better than the old wheels for riding.
Oh and that Pitbull? that thing is insane. Every bit as good as any brake.
One thing I will want is an original Odyssey front brake. I *think* the one on my orange bike was a 1999? gawd knows.