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Title: wheel building
Post by: Smidsy on February 12, 2019, 07:49 PM
Looking for wheel builder preferably nr Derby....but willing to travel for the right person.

Got some rims and hubs coming so need someone to recommend suitable spokes and put it all together
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Chilli Rinse on February 12, 2019, 07:53 PM
I know Alan's BMX charge £20 per wheel if you supply hubs, rims and spokes.  I think they help you with spoke choice too and will supply if needed.

http://www.alansbmx.com/763/products/custom_wheelbuild.aspx
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: dancetothedrummersbeat on February 12, 2019, 08:23 PM
I know Alan's BMX charge £20 per wheel if you supply hubs, rims and spokes.  I think they help you with spoke choice too and will supply if needed.

http://www.alansbmx.com/763/products/custom_wheelbuild.aspx

That's pretty good. I only live 7 miles away from Alans, but my local bike shop charge £55 to build wheels. They are really good though, and do loads of small jobs for me free of charge, so I can't complain :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: gary4130 on February 12, 2019, 09:29 PM
follow stidds how to an build them yourself
nothing more satisfying  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: CustardLips on February 12, 2019, 09:40 PM
follow stidds how to an build them yourself
nothing more satisfying  :daumenhoch:

I agree... used it many times and still do.  :daumenhoch:
The pics are gone now though unfortunately.  :(
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on February 12, 2019, 09:54 PM
follow stidds how to an build them yourself
nothing more satisfying  :daumenhoch:

I agree... used it many times and still do.  :daumenhoch:
The pics are gone now though unfortunately.  :(

Honestly give it a go yourself..
Building wheels is the most therapeutic part of the build ( I do personally sad as I am)
Here are some very easy and quick guides to building wheels.
The spoke length guide is so easy to give you the information needed.
The vid of the Aussie bint is very informative is a great help..
If you fook it up a least you tried .. fistblump

This truing tool is great .

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/tacx-t3175-exact-wheel-truing-stand/rp-prod33904

Here is a great site too work out the spoke lengths.

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator

Plus a simple detailed guide to building a wheel x3 crossover

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Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on February 12, 2019, 09:56 PM
Ps..
Don’t use your expensive bespoke dining room table as your missus will kill you.. :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on February 12, 2019, 10:14 PM
Used one now on eBay but collect only..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tacx-Wheel-Truing-and-Dishing-Tool/254116738579?hash=item3b2a89b613:g:h5gAAOSwcOtcX0g8
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: gary4130 on February 12, 2019, 10:26 PM
I agree Ady ,that building wheels is very therapeutic,often do mine while watching tv.
always true my wheels using an old pair of forks and a front brake  :LolLolLolLol:
keep thinking I should get a truing stand,but too tight to but one (that's why I build wheels myself)
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on February 12, 2019, 10:41 PM
I agree Ady ,that building wheels is very therapeutic,often do mine while watching tv.
always true my wheels using an old pair of forks and a front brake  :LolLolLolLol:
keep thinking I should get a truing stand,but too tight to but one (that's why I build wheels myself)

 :LolLolLolLol:

This was my make shift truing stand like yourself..
But the forks I was using I really shouldn’t have , as these was super rare Haro 89 bashguard forks but did the job.. ::)

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Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Avro on February 13, 2019, 08:47 AM
Building the wheels is easy, it's the truing and tensioning part that does my noggin in. I get there in the end but oh my days.
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on February 13, 2019, 10:18 AM
The trick is to try and get each nipple at equal positions when building hand tight.
I try and count each twist or look at the threads on the spokes as a guide to try and keep the tension the same which makes it easier.
Working from the stem hole twist each nipple half a turn on each going around and around till the tension you feel is ok or flick the spoke for a high pitch equal sounds, but always start where you finished.
It won’t be perfect but doing the above is a great start so you can fine tune on The truing tool..
Zed rims that’s another story..
These are a pain to build as the nipples sometimes wedge into the plastic you must use washers but I have build without with less tension.

Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Spen69 on February 13, 2019, 07:13 PM
As most have said, give it a go yourself. It's easier if you copy a wheel first but there are plenty of guides online to help :coolsmiley:

I've built plenty but I can't true wheels for shit though so if you get stuck, Jack at Waller BMX here in the south side of Sheffield will true them for £15 a pair and if you let him know, will do it while you wait but give him plenty of notice and no chance over the weekend, his shop is busy :2funny:

Not too far from Derby if you're stuck but most LBS's will tension a wheel up for you if you build it and can't finish the job, just ask around. Mark (Wini) on here is from Derby so drop him a pm if he knows anyone local :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: oldtired on February 13, 2019, 09:45 PM

yup very theraputic , build em yerself  :daumenhoch:

 been using this rig for donkeys years to build my own wheels ,   old akisu forks , now got a magnetic guage to bung on the side n can get    new  rims well under 1/2mm out ,         depending on production flaws,    older/used rims take a little more work but you can get em pretty good ,  as Ady stated the initial tension is the key , the trueing part is easy if you get the tension right to start with , making some spoke tension tools is the place to start  ;) ;) :daumenhoch:

could help out if all else fails 






keep thinking I should get a truing stand,but too tight to buy one (that's why I build wheels myself)

as above  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: MrD on March 13, 2019, 08:56 PM
To add to this thread

Ive just used this spoke calculator

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Ady on March 13, 2019, 09:39 PM
To add to this thread

Ive just used this spoke calculator

https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/spokelengthcalculator

See 6 pages down from thread .
I placed the Same link mate 👍
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: Smidsy on March 13, 2019, 09:46 PM
I ended up getting Danny to build em.

 fistblump :4_17_5:
Title: Re: wheel building
Post by: MrD on March 15, 2019, 08:48 PM
The spoke calculator worked out just fine, one word of caution though, if you're building a radial pattern and having the spoke butt on the outside of the hub (as per pic) then get spokes 1-2mm shorter than the calculator says as the path of the spoke is shorter.

Cheers

MrD
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