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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: Candellara on April 15, 2019, 09:44 AM
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Hi chaps.
Trying to find out about a Tange frame stickered Kuwahara
as per title, frame number is T4J2044
the frame is chrome with no gusset. Is this a Nova frame?
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Hi chaps.
Trying to find out about a Tange frame stickered Kuwahara
as per title, frame number is T4J2044
the frame is chrome with no gusset. Is this a Nova frame?
It’s hard to say without a picture. It’s definitely a 1984. Is the tubing round or oval?
It could possibly be a Laserlite.
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Picture attached
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This is the description:
New old stock 1984 tange made kuwahara frame serial T4J2044
It doesn't say which model Kuwahara - serial numbers T4 relate to 24"?
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This is the description:
New old stock 1984 tange made kuwahara frame serial T4J2044
It doesn't say which model Kuwahara - serial numbers T4 relate to 24"?
A Kuwahara cruiser I think mate, I’m not sure if they had a name as such. Defo not a Nova as they only had a single hole drilled in the rear dropouts and were looptail.
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T4J2044 - relates to TANGE 1984 OCTOBER, 2044th made frame in that month/year.
If it has Tange Japan on bottom bracket it would be a Raleigh Aero Pro frame.
I can not tell from the picture what frame it is 24" or 20". Do you have a link?
Is the brake bridge flat or oval tube? Are the rear dropouts double thickness? Do you know the Top Tube length?
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T4J2044 - relates to TANGE 1984 OCTOBER, 2044th made frame in that month/year.
If it has Tange Japan on bottom bracket it would be a Raleigh Aero Pro frame.
I can not tell from the picture what frame it is 24" or 20". Do you have a link?
Is the brake bridge flat or oval tube? Are the rear dropouts double thickness? Do you know the Top Tube length?
I’d say 24” judging by that rear triangle
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/nos-tange-kuwahara-mini-expert-frame-old-school-bmx/254196699338'ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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I'm gonna go with it being a 20" Mini frame. The BB shell isn't a USA size one which is what's confusing
Bet the TT is about 13.5" - 14.5" so let us know when it lands
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I'm gonna go with it being a 20" Mini frame. The BB shell isn't a USA size one which is what's confusing
Bet the TT is about 13.5" - 14.5" so let us know when it lands
I think you’re right Spen, the seat tube looks too short to be a cruiser.
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Seller has said the following:
Hi think it s expert size so 20 skinny wheels tyres normally
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There's a couple of mini's on the museum that look the same, and this catalogue from 83 has a pic of one on the bottom right.
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Thanks - much appreciated
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Ive got a spare pair of NOS 1-1/8" black skinwall Panaracer tyres if you're stuck - same as on my son's race bike here :daumenhoch:
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Good point, did not notice that when looking on phone :daumenhoch:
I'm gonna go with it being a 20" Mini frame. The BB shell isn't a USA size one which is what's confusing
Bet the TT is about 13.5" - 14.5" so let us know when it lands
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At a glance those mini frames can look like cruisers. :)
I’d say 24” judging by that rear triangle
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Most of the 80's mini Kuwahara frames had the seatclamp built in to the top like jmc's and threaded euro bb's this looks more like a Tange made expert frame (size down from a pro size frame) set that use's skinny wheels as mentioned above.....not seen many of these type of frame sets about but the young kids racin/freestyling for the Falcon Flyers bmx team used these bitd :daumenhoch:
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Just to throw a spanner in the works but I think the T stands for Tokyo Kogyo, another Japanese frame builder who made lots of frames (including some of the earlier Laserlites and other Kuwaharas), often using Tange tubing. If it's actually a Tange-made frame then it should have the "Tange" stamping, for example, as the later Laserlites had on the BB.
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Did Tange actually make frames at all? Forks for sure but I have yet to see evidence of them making frames. All their catalogues list tubes sets only.
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Loads of info on here
http://www.kuwahara-bmx.com/
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Perhaps "Natsukashi" will chime in as he's got various contacts in the Japanese bike industry.
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I had one of these a few years back ( was nos and may even be that very one ) If I remember right they have a narrow bb that I struggled to find a spindle for . There was definitely a reason it never got built ( not just the fact I had 30 odd builds in various stages ) . Who remembers the " I'm off to Australia mega sale :D
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Blimey bruv, I thought you'd forgotten about this one :coolsmiley:
Good to see you back on Rad fistblump