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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: McQUEEN on August 22, 2019, 06:54 AM
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Looking for some help on Suntour beartrap pedals -
As I understand it the original pedals were the XC-1s - these came out around 1981 and came with the sharper pointed tooth cage versions without a brace to the cages....
The XC-2s came out around 1982 with a brace to the cages and the cages had a blunter tooth?
Did both versions come with engraved Suntour cage screws?
Thanks
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Hmmm.....
As I remember the earlier ones all had the brace. It was the later ones without the brace say 84/85 ish :-\
I think those later ones may have had non-engraved screws as well at some point.
You are definitely right about the earlier sharp cages but I think they may have ran a little later - see this February 83 BMX Plus review below with the sharp cages :
(http://www.jpdeane.com/bmx/Suntour%20XC%20Pedals%2083.jpg)
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The earlier pedals up to 84/85 alll had braced bodies then changed to the braceless which also had the teeth configured 2/2 on the bodies rather than 3/1. I’ve got 2 pairs of the earlier XCII and both have Suntour stamped screws, I think the later ones were just stamped with an S.
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Hi,not sure where your getting 81' from but you might be thinking of Suntour XC Compes which were the later MTB versions of the MP1000's.The same pedal but w/chromed spindles instead of black,different logos & black cages.
The XC-1's came out in early 83 around the same time as the BMX Plus article Bobafett posted & where stock on Kuwie Lazer Lites.These were braced w/Suntour stamped cage screws as mentioned above. :daumenhoch:
-Mike
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Thanks guys, goes to show the internet can be the devils window when it comes to research....
So, braceless was XC-1, out in 83ish with 2/2 teeth on the bodies and suntour stamped cage screws, and XC-2s were braced with 3/1 teeth on the bodies possibly with S stamped on them. Any ideas on the dates that XC-2s became available?
I have two pairs of XC-2s and one pair of XC-1s, but all with XC-2 stamped cages. The XC-1s don't have anything stamped on the screws so I'm guessing these have been retrofitted. One pair of XC-2s have black painted spindles which I'm guessing have also been retrofitted (they were on a survivor that I bought complete).
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The left most in your picture without the braces are the later 84/85 type.
Other 2 are the earlier bodies with the sharper teeth obviously being the earliest cages.
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Thanks guys, goes to show the internet can be the devils window when it comes to research....
So, braceless was XC-1, out in 83ish with 2/2 teeth on the bodies and suntour stamped cage screws, and XC-2s were braced with 3/1 teeth on the bodies possibly with S stamped on them. Any ideas on the dates that XC-2s became available?.
XC-1's were braced,as were XC-2's which came out the same year around late 83 w/the more rounded teeth after XC-1's were dubbed "jaws of death" for being too sharp .I think the braceless ones were a few years later. :daumenhoch:
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Some of the screws are stamped Suntour and I’ve had others stamped with a single S.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191002/be60dad32761771e91c72c392d597bb6.jpg)
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...just to concur my unbraced bodies with cages sporting the flattened,widely spaced teeth have screws stamped with a single S.