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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Midschoolfool on March 27, 2021, 04:19 PM
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Wow. Never thought this would ever happen.
I had a good move around the other day.
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I managed to get them in so I can fit another on the end (the Fit). That leaves me room for one more complete. Was going to do the Root Down, but really wanted to end with a bang. I can fit three in my bathroom as it sits (I have a triple floor stand, I just need to bring it over).
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TBH I could fit nearly all of my bikes in there, and maybe someday will have to. You can't walk into that part of the room without smashing your head. I currently dry clothes in there, but do have a tumbler. So yeah, realistically I can do one more and have room to keep it.
What better than literally the king of midschool bikes?
I bought the frame from a guy on the T1 group on Facebook. Oddly enough I bought my Ruben from him at about exactly this same time two years ago.
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Someone cut the seat tube down to new school size so they could slam the seat. Which is annoying, but it made it half the price of any other code frame. I'm not bothered about it tbh. At some point a mate of mine is retiring, and I will get him to convert it into a Garrett any way. As part of the deal I got some bars also.
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Which as usual triggered me into "FIND ALL THE PARTS" mode. I had some stuff left over I have had years that I will be using. First up the cranks. I bought these in 2012 for my SE, then swapped them out for SE cranks.
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They're nothing special. However, they work and they work great. I will repaint them in gloss black as they are currently a flat black and I don't like the Salt logo. I needed wheels *gulp*. We all know what good wheels cost. It's always bloody scary. However, I have a couple of tricks up my sleeve. Step one was IMG's Ebay clearout account. Not many know about it, so it's usually got some gems in it.
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20 quid. Sun Rhino Lite and a Mirraco hub. For the rear wheel I found a NOS Seventies sealed 13t cassette with a Supra G rim.
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Tyres. Fly Sergio. These were ?16 each on sale.
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Thankfully I have two Euro 19mm BBs, as they aren't cheap (about forty quid ffs) So I splashed a bit on a 36t Profile.
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Cheap seat post (getting polished, or if the alu is crap painted)
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Cheap seat clamp (again getting painted)
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Cranks are missing the end bolts. I nicked them for something else.
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Cheap United chain.
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Headset.
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Mission (Kink) "Cease" V2
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It's a cheaper version of the Kink CNC "Desist". Quite funny. "Our brakes are called cease and desist".
Cable (Jet)
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Lever (Jet. I have ordered polished, but there is no pic of it in polished)
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Splashed a bit on the stem. It was 40 quid on sale down from 60. Big chunky boi like my Bone Deth Muffin top. They are very similar.
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United Purge IIRC. Seat I had. Picked it up for a tenner ages ago.
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Had a choice of fork. A new school unbranded cheapo set or these.
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Huffy 4130 fork (unless some bastud has nicked them from my shed). Will repaint those in black. Kinda remind me of Pitch Fork. Best thing is they are uncut.
I bought pedals for my upcoming (now not happening) 2hip build.
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But the grips I bought didn't match (ODI). I found out they do matching grips, so I bought those too.
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They don't look like they match, but they do a pedal slightly different in the same colour and here they are with the grips together.
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OK. So the colour. I hate raw. Well, I like it in context. IE on a Mad Max build like matey's race bike here. However, with NOS and new school parts all over? nah. So I am going to do it seafoam green.
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However, lessons were learned doing the Ruben. IE, don't use fake 2k clear. Lots of bullshitters out there. The paint on the Ruben came out incredible, but it literally falls off due to the shite clear :(
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Lesson learned. Buy proper 2k clear with the hardener in it that needs popping to release.
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Coming to you sometime this year........
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Going for a mix of original decals.
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But custom printed with a couple of changes.
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Not sure of the frame length yet, so will finish that one later.
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Got me some screechers.
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And finished the seat tube decal. I will send these over to my buddy later.
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Afternoon, mon Radsters. I wasn't due over until tomorrow, but I woke up to this eh.
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Yeah, like fook was I not getting out riding in that ! Rode down to the train station. Man, very unfit.
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Ride at the other end. Bomb down a hill (that shit never gets old !) and then ride up one. Which half killed me lmao. Need to get back on the game.
Glad I came today. The parcels were piled up, and there's more to come.
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Grips.
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Headset.
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Tyres.
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Back wheel.
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That thing is beefy. Like, tank beef. I love it !
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Then onto my gamble. Carlo has a outlet on Ebay that he doesn't tell any one about because it's where he gets rid of his seconds and cheaper stuff. I saw this wheel....
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With a very generic description..... "BMX 20" Front Wheel (UnSealed Bearing) ex demo". There are tons of them on there, same description, but they all look like this.
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IE just some cheap generic wheel from a cheap complete. At ?20 I figured it was worth the risk. Like, I needed a front wheel and a boggo would have done (that's about the right price tbh). Cue my excitement when this arrived.
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That's not a cheap wheel and that's not an unsealed hub. That's a sealed Mirraco hub and that wheel would have came on a top end bike. Stoked !
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Seat post for the FIT that wasn't in China but took three weeks and has Chinese import stickers all over it. Dick heads, neggo for you ! Parts.
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Finally I nervously opened the shed...
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Yup, they were still there. And they are actually pretty nice and totally look like fake Pitch Forks. Even the welds are really good.
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So that was a touch. Source order with the rest of the porn comes tomorrow I think.
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And remember, do not bend.
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Oh what fun dragging it all up to the loft. Not.
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Found four Mirra pegs. Never fitted them, as they just destroy other bikes if you stand them close. They'll go perfect on this.
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Pedals are finally with the matching grips.
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Dug out the cranks.
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Found the BB.
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Going to work on the pedals for the FIT tomorrow. Want that done and out of the way.
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I.... I couldn't do it.
You know?
Put 8 spline basic cranks on a Barcode. Thankfully I still have a small part of my rectum left because I bagged these really cheap.
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WTF I am up drawing graphics, cutting them and getting them ready. I blame Spring !
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Any way, that ought to be it now (yeah I know the TMs are missing. To cut them to scale they don't fit on A4 plotter. I will cut them tomorrow from scrap to go at the end.
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Found some more NOS mid school goodies. Overkill FTW. Got a set of peg tugs.
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And this for ?4, which was a nice find.
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Fork is done.
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I used acrylic clear for the first time. Kobra, IIRC. I am very impressed. My camera however, isn't. It just refused to focus on one so shineh.
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That said that sun is brutal, so they have flashed off completely after about an hour or so. I also painted and cleared this.
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Which will go with this once the vinegar has done its job and I have polished it.
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Whilst the fork was being roasted I popped up and came up with a few ideas for fork decals. Obviously not Huffy, even though these were top end forks for them. So I went mid school all the way.
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Forgot I did not have any primer left, so have ordered that.
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Wow that Kobra acrylic clear is pretty killer.
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Ghetto lathe !
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Pads and CTs came today. Source order comes tomorrow.
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As does the frame and bars.
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I did make a decal for the post last night.
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Seafoam candy is here. So is the 2k. However I forgot I had no primer, so I ordered that yesterday.
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Destickered and waiting for primer.
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Bars are sanded and primed. Too cold to put down gloss tbh. The crap part is done now though.
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Bar decal.
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I also decided to be sensible and use this on the raw bits. That and to grab onto the clear that's on it.
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Weather is cack any way, so won't be doing much.
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Went back through my receipts and noticed the tyres were listed as front tyres. Then I was worried it's because they're too tall to fit the rear. Seems they are not.
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Once the bars were done hanging over the rad for a few hours I took those up to look at them under the LED lights. Found a few chips in the metal itself under the primer, so took those out with a sanding barrel then feathered them.
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Bars are currently outside drying. Decided to ditch the headset I bought in favour of this. A NOS Tange Tank. Cost a bit, but it's awesome.
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Bars are done. Primered them up again last night.
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Then black gloss.
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And then clear. Currently drying in the spare room.
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Was going to clear them tomorrow, but it's Easter so I CBA.
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Bellend in mitt.
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We have a front end !
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I wasn't going to do this today. Sadly it would seem I am addicted. The hub guard was meant for the front wheel (you can see it in the bars pics there, it's 10mm). Sadly it was a bit beefy for that and ended up in the spokes. So I ordered this a few days back, came today.
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It worked brilliantly. Aside from one bit. There is a notch there for the guard to stop it spinning in the drops. Well the 14mm part would not reach that without making the hole in it 16mm (it's not deep enough). I pissed around with the sanding barrel on the dremel for about five minutes, before realising carbide was the way forward.
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Go on, resist that you twat. Of course it had no chance, and thus.
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We now have a hub guard.
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mmmm wet sanding today with cold water. Hands are still bloody numb.
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Left it on the rad over night to harden.
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Needs sanding back in a couple of areas. Will do that later when Amazon bring me more sandpaper.
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And another day of suck is out of the way.
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Imperfections sanded out wet. Then it was back outside for the second and final coat of primer.
Legs akimbo !
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And back on the rad to harden.
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Wow, proper dodged a bullet there ! that would have been "Go back to the start, fook off, don't collect ?200"
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Love following your build threads! :daumenhoch:
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Cheers dude. I'm kinda all in on this one. By now I would have had it done tbh.
Apparently it's going to be 11 on Friday. I may be able to get the silver base down then. We'll see. The 2k stuff? that needs the weather to be at least 17. So that will have to wait. That said, that doesn't involve any sanding (just cleaning and tacking between the candy and clear) so yeah, getting the foundation down properly is the important part.
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The wet sanding on primer has now finished.
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Quick clean down.
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Welding slag. I don't remove this or small dents.
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P1200 wet.
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Not sure when I can get the house of kolor down. Weather is simply too cold. Still, the dirty horrible shitty part is done :LolLolLolLol:
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Right I have done some videos today. So many people asking me about painting etc. It was spend about two days typing or shoot a couple of vids.
In the first video I go through wet sanding and the treatment of acrylic paint. This is important.
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In that video I wasn't in the best of moods. So there may be a few naughty words.
In video two I go over why you use a tack cloth and how.
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And in video 3 I show the bike now in base coat.
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I emailed the company who I bought the KHE cranks from, and it seems they are breaking the law. They don't stock them, they have them drop shipped and send them on when they arrive. Which is BS, and they have been holding my money for 8 days now.
This is why I do everything myself. Rely on someone else at your peril it seems :rant:
So I bought some mid school Profiles.
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They are a bit scabby, but cost ?45. There is a bolt missing, but tbh? if I don't have one of those I can get a pair of TI bolts for ?23. Either way a day's sanding and painting and I have ?150 cranks. Importantly there are no dents or dings. Just battered old finish and rust. This I can live with.
I asked my pal to run me off, and I quote "A couple of the stickers I drew".
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Frame is now back inside and drying/hardening. As I describe in the video, it did flash off lovely. How? IDK. By miracle perhaps. But I will take one of those :LolLolLolLol:
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I think I have finally gotten to the truth of what happened over the Ruben. That "House of Kolor" Shimrin I bought is no such thing. It's not 2k, and as such when I put the candy on it simply melted its way back to the raw steel.
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So that's a wrap for now. I don't have the energy or the enthusiasm to even touch it.
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Gutting!
I can completely understand your 'walking away'. I had the same with a Beetle once. I always only every painted cars with 2K then one day caved in for a friend who really wanted his bug done cellulose (twot was all 'it's proper old skool that way). As I worked in 2k so much I didn't give the old paint two thoughts, to my failing.
Went cellulose high build primer, but through flatting 'broke through' in a few places. When I laid the first coat on the roof pickled like crazy. I was gutted. Left the workshop for a week. In the end I had to bare metal the whole shell :tickedoff:. Taught me a lesson, 2k all day thereafter.
Good luck sorting it out. Keep the faith, after a good break from it that is :daumenhoch:.
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It was a blatant con. One that will never happen to me again. I ordered this.
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Noting very carefully the one in the middle. I used that when I painted my car 15 years ago, and it's the business. However, I only today spotted it when I looked close. Look at the label on what they actually sent me.
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If you look hard enough you can see they have put a sticker on it that says SILVER. That is supposed to be HOK Shimrin 2. However, look closely at that label and it says "Wheel Silver" under the sticker. IE, it's acrylic. shit wheel paint you get from poundland.
How do I know this? well, because of my experiments I know that panel wipe (which is basically thinners) eats acrylic paint. Alcohol does not. However, on the reverse of that alcohol eats 2k and 1k paint, where as thinners do not.
And thus, when you apply 2k paint to acrylic this happens.
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It just literally dissolves the paint on there right down to the metal below. And, because of that reaction? the only way to go is back to bare metal.
So fook Jawel paints, dirty scummy con artists. And fook "2k" paints in a can because they are just endlessly shit. I was going to jump on it tbh. Fold in the chain stays and throw it in the trash. Then thankfully I managed to calm down, after shouting lots of expletives and begin the soul crushing, mind bending bollocks of stripping the entire fooking frame back to metal. AGAIN.
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I've also had a hour on the wet sanding too. I reckon I have another day of getting it back to raw steel, before I start again. Only this time? I am sticking to acrylic 100%. From reputable companies, not some dick wad on Ebay putting 99% thinners into a can with a tiny splash of actual paint. See, whilst I totally blame Jawel for this I also blame the company who relieved me of ?20 for that candy. It was total shit. I coated about half of the frame once and nearly all of it was gone.
It's a racket tbh.
The hilarious part is acrylics are really cheap for really good, quality paints. My DB cost me ?12 to paint last year.
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And you know what? it wasn't perfect. Couple of dry patches. However, I was bloody proud of that. Same with the Fatboy. This cost me about a tenner all in.
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The only thing I had not found at that time was a good, hard acrylic clear. Cue this, ?3.50 a can.
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Which gave really good results. Way better than any 1k "will never harden properly" clear coat.
I spoke to Dan today. I was going to get it powdered. However, sadly the colour I want is only available through Prismatic. Which is not a huge issue. $13 for a pound. Problem is it's then ?30+ to ship it, ?30 to send the frame to Dan and back and then ?80 to get him to do his magic. I won't lie, I can't afford it. So I did some research and settled on this.
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Which is tried and tested three times now. I fancied something sparkly, so I got this.
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Which looks a bit OTT on black IMO. Over something light? it will be barely noticeable until the light hits. I already had the clear left over. A whole can, IIRC. So it's primer (got) the paint above (two "river" and the sparkle cost me ?20 delivered, with ?7 of that being DPD) and I already have a whole can of acrylic primer left over.
Honestly whilst I can't afford to pay Dan to do it like, today, I could wait. However, every time I have had a frame powdered I have been disappointed. Not in the finishers, because they looked great, but disappointed that I didn't do everything myself and paid out the ass for someone else to do it.
If it were any other bike I would toss it in a box for a few months and not care. But a code? ugh.
I reckon I should have it about ready to go back into primer tomorrow. I hope. Had an accident with the drill too. I had a 3m paint ripping pad on there and had the button locked. My hands gave out (arthritis) and I dropped it. Of course it didn't stop, it just ate straight through my shoe and into my foot.
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But we fight on.....
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Did some nasty sanding for about an hour. It's getting closer. Hopefully there's some of that really nasty stripper left for the welds. Will save me having to sit there with a Dremel getting peppered with wire brush bits.
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Dremel work done. Welds are all clear.
One more sand and it will be ready for primer. Again :LolLolLolLol:
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And you thought you were having a bad week.
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So he's either blind, or a fooking liar. That wasn't the best bit though. This is the best bit.
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So not only are they full of dents, the axle has been destroyed too.
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If he was blind, he could still feel those friggin' dents! Sorry to read about this mate - this kind of thing really pisses me off! :2gunsfiring_v1:
Hang in there though, this is going to be sweet when it's done. :daumenhoch:
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I almost gave up yesterday. Just sick of people lying. Why? had he been honest I wouldn't have bought them.
Obviously now I had a huge problem. A new Profile axle is about ?60. One with the bolts and shoulders? over ?100. That means the ?45 I paid? I could have bought some new school GDH. The bolts are 3/8 24 TPI, meaning nowhere in the UK just stocks normal bolts in that size. Meaning you have to go to them.
After speaking with my friend who has a hobbyist machine setup in his garage we came up with a plan. I got out my vernier, and the bolt hole depth is 28mm. So basically Profile bolts are probably 30mm or less (they sit on 5mm shoulders like this)
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That was obviously the second problem we needed to tackle though. The first was saving the axle. I was concerned he may not have the hardware to work on toughened 4130. So then I got totally schooled. I mean, this dude even knows the chemical names for this stuff. Like, the actual steel, how it's made up and even its stock value :LolLolLolLol: So he sent me this picture to ease my concerns.
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So I'm like "Oh hey nice drill bits man". Only then he told me that is his collection of carbide and cobalt. The latter will eat through anything you feed it. So, I then hatched a plan. He was talking about helicoils and etc, I don't like the idea of that. I know Profile do a hollow cro mo axle. I know because it's about ?80. So the idea I had goes like this. Bore out the original holes completely (the 3/8 24 TPI) to 10.5MM. Made them through holes. Bore into the arm another 30mm, tap to M10. Then use 60mm bolts.
Which he said was probably the easiest way to go about it, rather than trying to put back threads that were destroyed. The only thing left to do then was vernier the shoulders I will need.
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Get him to throw it into 3d to make sure it looks right and then basically just send the axle to him. Then order some bolts.
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As you can see, the price is a lot keener than ?35.
I degreased the cranks and axle yesterday. Whilst there I found a stamp saying "USA". So these are unstamped Profile. Not only are they unstamped older cranks, but they are bipolar. IE, they have a sprocket mount both sides. Which, makes them quite rare tbh. Pretty sure I can fix the dents. The degreaser took off some of the crappy paint too.
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Went at them earlier. Most of the dents filed and sanded out. There's about 5 left, I will just fill those.
Currently soaking in vinegar. Will leave them there til tomorrow.
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I don't have the balls, knowledge or skills, not to mention Gareth's tools to attempt this kind of thing but I'm in for the finish!!! :daumenhoch:
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TBH they are nearly done. I gotta say, I was suprised how well they came out. thankfully where they had been smacked with a hammer (at the top) is very thick. So most of those were easy to file. They weren't that deep either, so most was metal sticking up.
I still need to clean out the welds with a Dremel, but not doing that inside again (not even in the loft, my carpet patch now sticks you in the ass :LolLolLolLol: ) the wires from the brush just fly out and stick into everything.
Funny thing is I thought they were painted. So I took them down this morning and covered them in paint stripper. Imagine my surprise when hardly anything came off. They had the original powder on. So I had to sand them by hand. And rust? dear god. I have never seen anything like it. The sandpaper turned dark brown. That's why I have them in the vinegar, as I know if the outside was like that the inside will be as bad.
I have ordered some JB weld for the rest of the small dents. I will get that done tomorrow. Let that harden, then Tuesday before I go home I will smooth them off and maybe put some primer on (they flash rust sooooo fast). Will pop the axle in the post on the way home, then when I get back it should be done and back here ready to sort out. I'm currently waiting for paint, and waiting for the weather. It's freezing, we've had snow and hail etc. It's been nuts. Even today when I went out to put the stripper on I had a bobble hat on the lot and was still freezing. Madness.
All I need is like, three warm days, and I can pretty much finish all of the painting. The shit part is done (twice on the frame ffs).
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Cranks have been IDed at last. They are Profile Madera.
https://www.profileracing.com/product/madera-protocol-ht-crankset/
(https://i.imgur.com/sc3oTCq.jpg)
Colors: Chrome. Black Texture Powdercoat, Celestial Wrap
That explains why the paint stripper wouldn't touch the finish. Seems it was original black textured powder.
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Took them out of vinegar. Scrubbed clean with dish soap and greeny. Dried them profusely, shaking them so the water came out of the weep holes. Wrapped in fresh paper towel, put on rad. They flash rusted FFS. Realising I had to do something I tried out that etch primer I bought.
(https://i.imgur.com/OhQUNt7.jpg)
Before.
(https://i.imgur.com/qKbewkZ.jpg)
After. Look down the left side of the left arm.
(https://i.imgur.com/uJoSJIL.jpg)
Before.
(https://i.imgur.com/0okMZdI.jpg)
After.
(https://i.imgur.com/TRnNswD.jpg)
And before.
(https://i.imgur.com/1ndwgLx.jpg)
And after.
(https://i.imgur.com/D5LHQBe.jpg)
Minimal filling needed.
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Quick update before I return home. I put thr JB weld onto the dings yesterday arvo. It takes 6 hours to set and 24 hours to go off, so I left them in the loft and closed it up. I just knew I would fook with it and probably make it ten times worse (OCD FTW) so to stop myself messing with them I left them there. They shall be waiting when I return. It should be a day to get those finished and looking mint.
Someone on BMXM has donated me a 48 spline axle. A normal one that uses normal bolts. I will still send the Profile one to my pal, but yeah a backup is now in place.
This arrived today.
(https://i.imgur.com/e7AEwfE.jpg)
I am hoping for warmer climes when I return.
I bought these yesterday.
(https://i.imgur.com/4GwDxYr.jpg)
I bought two sets. One for this bike and one for my Metal. Best barends I have ever used. Just beautifully made and designed, and work really good.
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I'm back, finally. My buddy and I threw around some ideas, then he had this one.
(https://i.imgur.com/5UGsgee.png)
That is the modelled axle. They always look weird in 3D. This is what we are going to do.
Hot cold press fit to M8
(https://i.imgur.com/k5obBOS.png)
I almost ditched the cranks. I have plenty of cash, but at the end of the day I really wanted a full Profile setup on this bike. So I pressed on.
(https://i.imgur.com/7AeInYU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PNNYP4Y.jpg)
I have left a "dent" in here. Because it's the factory USA stamp dent.
(https://i.imgur.com/YBkwwwa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VwgMgoq.jpg)
Then they started blowing around in the wind so I gave up...
(https://i.imgur.com/AHXL64N.jpg)
Paint for both tomorrow, clear the day after.
The kid got banned from 4 groups BTW. That will lose him more than the ?45 he scammed out of me. Stupid idiot.
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Bah what the hell. Needed clothes, ended up on Source. Ordered clothes, then, well, it happened again FFS.
(https://i.imgur.com/vyNJ7Sw.jpg)
I've decided I want to ride it. Hopefully Southsea will be alive again this year and it would be a sick bike to take to shows etc and KOC and what not. So that meant upping the seat height.
(https://i.imgur.com/VAHaXbe.jpg)
And whilst I was there they actually had one of these in stock for the first time since I started collecting bike shit again. Every time I order one I get the frigging apology email the next day ffs.
(https://i.imgur.com/22244j9.jpg)
I won't lie that lot wasn't cheap. Probably the most expensive seat I have ever bought. However, given I think I am almost out of jail on the cranks it was fine.
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(https://i.imgur.com/em81Ewc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kGEMIYF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zSAfUk3.jpg)
Missed the same parts on both arms :LolLolLolLol:
Still that is more than good enough for primer. Will wet sand them with 2000 and go to black tomorrow.
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Good work! Like the seat too! :daumenhoch:
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Thanks dude. Yeah seat is awesome. It's kevlar too. That said it was the most expensive seat I ever bought but S&M tax I suppose :LolLolLolLol:
"You go on back to her and I go back to........."
(https://i.imgur.com/kMCoCtO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PsRlhoQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kNwQfPV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FEY3sAr.jpg)
Black.
Clear tomorrow :)
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Cranks just need the over spray wiping off (it's like static, given Acrylic paint is plastic based)
(https://i.imgur.com/b43YIfj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F4FDiel.jpg)
Tack cloth and clear tomorrow. I also tested the decals. My friend does not use gloss laminates because they are quite expensive. He doesn't print bike decals ever, so yeah. Problem is they are a bit matt, so I wanted to test and see how they would take clear. Note the ink when printed ran, hence why I used these. That is not down to the clear as the ink is actually laminated.
(https://i.imgur.com/VazCXVK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vTND8WB.jpg)
Good, so they take clear coat without melting or peeling. Also note I did not rub them down much, hence why the paper bled. I just wanted to see what would happen on the surface of the decals, before putting them on a fully painted frame before clear and potentially wrecking another week of work and having to start again for a third time :LolLolLolLol:
Those will be cleared on. The rest are gloss, so won't be.
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That should have been it for the day. I was all done what I am doing. Then I remembered I didn't clean up after the filing session with JB weld yesterday ffs. So I got up in the loft and hoovered up and had a good tidy.
Then I realised that the M8 axle a guy sent me was there, so I sat down to tinker. Grabbed an M8 bolt, fell right in :( oh god what is this thing?
Figured it was M10. Grabbed my M10 tap and very carefully tried to screw it in. It wouldn't go WTF? is this another destroyed axle? Grabbed the 3/8 axle bolts from my female ODY wheels. Went right in. So, this is a 3/8 Axle, possibly Profile.
Then I remembered how my mate (another engineer) told me off the other night for not being able to locate the correct bolts. Gary is 62, so is very familiar with UNC sizing etc. The answer?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131315447230?var=430616244350
60p each. They are 3/8 24 TPI. Sound familiar? it should. Same as a "10mm" wheel axle.
I've ordered ten. I still need the shoulders of course, and my mate is going to repair the other axle, but this one is in great condition and doesn't need repair so all I need him to do is bash out a couple of shoulders and I am ready to go.
60p each FFS. Just goes to show how Profile take the piss with their ?35 bolts that come with two alu shoulders. Probably cost about 2p for them to put together.
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Cranks are done.
(https://i.imgur.com/5oifjPF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uaP9RHh.jpg)
And I may have done this also.
(https://i.imgur.com/1BXQrjn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Od0i0lz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rgGFsNF.jpg)
I really thought it was just a matter of a small bit of sanding on the stays, a clean tack and paint. But no. I had it clean and ready for paint a total of four times. Then I would notice a patch, touch it and I could feel it :( So four times it was back to sanding, cleaning again and etc.
Wet sand tomorrow with 1200. Then it will once again be ready for base coat :LolLolLolLol:
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OK so it seems that my OCD on prep meant the primer was literally perfect. So that left only one thing to do.
(https://i.imgur.com/epmgR6V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7AMHJ1U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BXmqUtn.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/brpemkd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f3MxDd2.jpg)
"wantit"
Yup it pops alright !
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Quite probably the scariest day of them all. I was so paranoid I sat up late last night reading every single word on the two cans. Then when the moment arrived it was kinda so so.
The paint was high pressure. Which caught me off guard, as the paint I used yesterday was HVLP (high volume low pressure). It also spat. This is because of the effects it is carrying. I did my best, but every now and then the pool of clear building up on the button would fall into the stream and I ended up with three sags.
(https://i.imgur.com/I1zoxyN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RwvuGxO.jpg)
The pics here are made kinda small, so it may be hard to pick up. So I did this.
(https://i.imgur.com/Dp2uI3x.jpg)
That was the worst one. I came in a bit dejected knowing I would have to fix that. Twenty minutes later I went down and got the nicest surprise yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/wgbkwh5.jpg)
Gone. It has completely vanished.
(https://i.imgur.com/QQ7Mv0F.jpg)
What sort of voodoo is this? nothing more than self levelling. I still felt a bit down. Not sure why. Then I brought it in.
(https://i.imgur.com/atOR01Z.jpg)
And it was love at first sight.
(https://i.imgur.com/5C8n15e.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BqB0SeC.jpg)
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It's done. I brought it in for a few tests and soon realised the clear was as hard as a rock. So hard I could pull a plastic scraper over it to put the decals down and it didn't bat an eyelid. So I decided to just stop being a fanny and finish it.
(https://i.imgur.com/vwNWrJo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Hi7mXvu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m5diPro.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HSZ8weH.jpg)
That holographic stuff is pretty mental. Watch what happens when you bring it into a darker place.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZU6rxYm.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/iAH5mNJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AmbnkoW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/33Hv2zx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sQG9R4q.jpg)
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Mate, that came out brilliant!!! Just reward for all of the effort you've put it into it! :bow:
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That was a scrap. Ain't gonna lie I nearly gave up.
For the past four days all I could smell is raw steel and paint.
Just can't wait to get it built now. Will give it a couple of days to harden up more, then set about it. Between the frame and the cranks I've just been beaten senseless. I doubt I will ever put that much work into a bike again.
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All in, balls deep. I wonder if there is even another one of these in the U.S.A, let alone in existence.
About 15 years ago Carlo had some Proper CNC brakes made. They were extremely expensive. He's had this one for the 7 years I have been back into BMX.
(https://i.imgur.com/3rLBLcx.jpg)
There was nothing wrong with the Mission one at all. Apart from the sex factor. Given the amount of pain, sweat and tears that has gone into this I wanted to go insane. So that every part is a killer part. I finished doing that by ordering this.
(https://i.imgur.com/Lw4rAVK.jpg)
The Ruben has an interlock V2 on. There was just no way I could put a ?4 chain on his big brother. It had to be in the very least the same, but this bike is better.
I will be seriously winding things down when this is done, so I may as well go killer on everything I can. Parts left over always get used. Always.
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Yeah so I have learned many lessons on painted frames :LolLolLolLol: so I made this out of a thin piece of MDF and some A4 sticky back felt.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZmfW9UJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/88VfwQo.jpg)
Tank is fitted and so is the BB shell.
(https://i.imgur.com/uSDH5Lk.jpg)
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S&M goodness.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZsGz7Jc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AfR19I8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rGVRlIE.jpg)
Cranks have had to come off three times. I hate Profile. I really, really hate them. They have no f*****g offset ffs. That has been fixed now.
(https://i.imgur.com/JDgVWfK.jpg)
Some clever twat decided to go and spend ?110 on a brake and chain so it can't be finished yet :LolLolLolLol:
(https://i.imgur.com/ndzXYjm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z0FaoTi.jpg)
That said I am still waiting on the bolts and shoulders for the crank arms so I can't finish it any way. Soon though. I can smell it !
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She's upright. The crank bolts came. Fit perfectly. Had to do some tech pics and measuring for my friend so he can make the shoulders.
(https://i.imgur.com/I6E3yPX.jpg)
Brake and chain tomorrow and Sat apparently. Shoulders a bit longer, but it will be done sometime next week.
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Pedals are going. I really don't like them. the colour is fine, I just don't like the shape. At all. I know it's been designed with riding in mind but they are too skinny and I don't like the shape of them.
(https://i.imgur.com/hBnPWb5.jpg)
Just found those on Ebay. I might ditch the grips too. They get dirty very quickly and it doesn't wipe off.
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Yup. when to hold and when to fold. Those pedals and grips just looked wrong. Thank god I got the S&Ms for my STA.
(https://i.imgur.com/6Di4FLZ.jpg)
That Proper brake isn't going on until it's been stripped and polished either. The colour of the frame just can't take anything busier than the seat really.
(https://i.imgur.com/o5EzFQn.jpg)
Have fitted the Kink one for now.
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Pedals are going. I really don't like them. the colour is fine, I just don't like the shape. At all. I know it's been designed with riding in mind but they are too skinny and I don't like the shape of them.
(https://i.imgur.com/hBnPWb5.jpg)
Just found those on Ebay. I might ditch the grips too. They get dirty very quickly and it doesn't wipe off.
Now you're talking :smitten:
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It didn't occur to me to even search for them tbh. So glad I did now. I love NOS stuff. Sooo awesome :D
So earlier I had to take the measurements (properly) for the shoulders. I guess I was tired and a bit pissed off when I guesstimated them, but tbh they would never have worked. My pal sent me a really nice vernier. Far better than the one I forgot to bring over.
(https://i.imgur.com/WfOCJ0q.jpg)
That's my crank installer. It fits perfectly. So I used that for the OD of the shoulder.
(https://i.imgur.com/lFd60fA.jpg)
Next up the OD of the bolt head.
(https://i.imgur.com/zHMKMdX.jpg)
And depth of the counter.
(https://i.imgur.com/D27YmYX.jpg)
After modelling it
(https://i.imgur.com/REefroW.png)
He test printed one to see if it "looked right". Things in 3D look weird. Looks pretty spot on, so he will bash those out ASAP.
(https://i.imgur.com/kZVNQCE.jpg)
The last thing to do was buy this.
(https://i.imgur.com/pLZaQWp.jpg)
To stop the fooker walking out.
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I got parts.
(https://i.imgur.com/cwmRi3P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OWYxyeZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qKCCUiZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vQLcHB4.jpg)
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Chain is done.
(https://i.imgur.com/xtfXE9z.jpg)
The finish line is finally in sight !
(https://i.imgur.com/a4rJned.jpg)
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I had to try it. At that price? yeah I had to try it before chucking it in a parts box.
(https://i.imgur.com/qHEjfYL.jpg)
I'm glad I did it looks absolutely gorgeous.
(https://i.imgur.com/06f1pF4.jpg)
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Pedals are in.
(https://i.imgur.com/WXkFCnX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7LHI4PK.jpg)
The next time I take a tool to the bike it will be the last time. It's literally just fitting the crank bolt shoulders when they arrive and some threadlocker and done.
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Took the crank bolt shoulders off my Ruben for now. I need that out soon any way to put some pegs and shit on it. It's finished.
T1 Barcode frame
Huffy 4130 fork
T1 Ruben bars repainted black
United "Purge" Stem with restored fat bolt and cap
S&M logo grips
Snafu CNC bar ends
Tange Tank headset (NOS)
Jet brake lever, polished
Jet cable
Proper CNC mid school brake (NOS)
Alex Supra G rear wheel with ODY tube and Fly Sergio tyre. Seventies cassette 13t (NOS)
Primo Cyclone rear hub guard
Sun Rhino Lite front wheel with Mirraco hub (NOS)
Ging chain tensioners (NOS)
Profile Madera cranks restored and painted black
Profile 36t sprocket
S&M Euro BB
Demolition Team pedals. Magnesium (NOS)
Shadow Interlock Supreme chain
Mirra pegs
S&M kevlar camo saddle
S&M Long Johnson post
S&M XLT seat clamp
(https://i.imgur.com/8ExtFWJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iRr4DvN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8tvJ9LK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GsEdRX9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7iCNR7V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GmGsmKJ.jpg)
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It took ages for the pics to upload on my slow old boat of a pc but man, it was worth it! Love those brakes (who would have thought that colour combo would work!) and much prefer the look of the black pedals and grips over the og choices. If I may say so Sir, you bloody well nailed this one!! IMHO, it's your best build to date. Or at least my favourite one. Props indeed! :daumenhoch:
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Great thread, great build, great result. All you efforts paid off. I like fistblump
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It took ages for the pics to upload on my slow old boat of a pc but man, it was worth it! Love those brakes (who would have thought that colour combo would work!) and much prefer the look of the black pedals and grips over the og choices. If I may say so Sir, you bloody well nailed this one!! IMHO, it's your best build to date. Or at least my favourite one. Props indeed! :daumenhoch:
I have had my beady eye on that brake for about 8 years :LolLolLolLol:
Green parts seem to have totally fallen off a cliff. I have seen green wheels, but tbh they don't look all that. Was a total shot in the dark really. I really like to go a bit off piste with the parts. It would be so easy to buy an EVO II like every one else. I have no idea why I thought it would work. In fact, when I looked at it with the Primo parts and realised they looked terrible I was really worried it would look poo. So much so I left it sitting in the box for three days.
Wish I could find a lever that colour now ! I thought the polished stuff would look incredible but tbh? it marks so easy. The pedals too. So glad Chili posted those now (thanks dude). Obviously I had to find them, but they were there thank god. I used to love Primo pedals but every one has them.
Really wasn't easy this one. At all. I'm so glad I stuck with it though because it's one of my grails. The other grail? pah, I have about as much chance of finding that as I do being struck by lightning twice (Curtis DSR in tangerine). I have only ever heard about one in the 12 years I have been back into this, and it wasn't tangerine it was grey. I even phoned Curtis to see about getting one made but they threw out the plans :(
Thanks for sticking around for the journey boys. It's certainly been one ! nice to go a little crazy at the end too. Interesting fact. The chain cost more than both wheels :LolLolLolLol:
I've had an idea for that CW too. So I have one more left in me.
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Just when I thought it was all over. It wasn't.
(https://i.imgur.com/ERxW2go.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eZsBGwH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S318Wr7.jpg)
Will clean it up, blow it over with satin black and replace the bolts.
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Stem is in. Had some damage so I got rid of it all.
(https://i.imgur.com/FKlrXAi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OFZ9X2X.jpg)
Quick wet and dry and a blow over with satin black.
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(https://i.imgur.com/CSRoRFO.jpg)
Ready for paint.
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I haven't been on few a days and what happens, I've gone through a flippin' time portal!! ;)
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Yeah I been hitting it hard lol. Might do some stripping today (fnarrrr "wantit" )
Weather looks sound.
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(https://i.imgur.com/PCKJ21A.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/d8OmRXN.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/FKpW9Fz.jpg?1)
Sadly it got all dusty. I bought the M8 stainless bolts about two weeks ago and last week I realised the heads were too big :( So today I had to put each one in the drill (six of) and spin it in the power drill in one hand whilst using the belt file in the other. Hence the dust.
I've now fitted it, and this bike is 100% finished.
(https://i.imgur.com/lTgla7P.jpg?1)
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As I posted I got a set of really nice Bully Prowler forks with the Morales. Was going to sell them, then realised they are 10mm and nicer than the Huffy fork.
(https://i.imgur.com/hQoF6UQ.jpg)
Just one thing missing. So I shot Del and email, and...
(https://i.imgur.com/UQzoptJ.png)
Only even better I got them with green logos "wantit"
Deffo a nice upgrade for the Code.
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Dope. These will look killer on the code.
(https://i.imgur.com/bdIM81p.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IfBl7an.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OHbSNLW.jpg)
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Well that was cool. Forgot I bought green wheel nuts and dust caps etc. So I fitted them whilst I was at it. Please excuse the Chicago bars, I fitted those with it in the rack on my hands and knees. Must sort those out before it goes back :LolLolLolLol:
(https://i.imgur.com/3EA1qM3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/A4sN8xm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sHxBt6Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GPEyw60.jpg)