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Title: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 06:42 PM
Has any one actually done a vander frame rebuild ?
For many years I have wanted to take a 85 streetbeat frame and reweld and then chrome it like the vander frame he came to the uk on in 84? ... just been too lazy.

does anyone have any pictures of this frame (not from BMXA) ?

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: billstup on July 29, 2007, 06:47 PM
Craig Campbell might have some, he took a load of pics when we were on that tour, but you`ve got to find him to ask  :(
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: Lazarou on July 29, 2007, 07:18 PM
I could only find this on my PC.....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/Freestylin_Winter_84_pg16.jpg)
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: theRuler on July 29, 2007, 07:18 PM
that would be sooooo cool
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: highrisedrifter on July 29, 2007, 07:23 PM
I've got a raw 'beat I was thinking of getting chromed, I have to admit. Haven't really looked into the costs yet though.
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 07:31 PM
From what I understand it would take :

1 x 85 street beat frame and forks.

new front gusset
remove platform and re shape it at top of seat stays.
gusset at one or both sides of stays?
coaster tab?
rear standing pegs
New seat tube (round)
huge ammounts of pollishing (those cheap 85 frames are usually in really bad shape)
and then a chrome job
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: Lazarou on July 29, 2007, 07:33 PM
...on that pic the seat tube looks round as well.....
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 07:34 PM
...on that pic the seat tube looks round as well.....

very tue, hadnt noticed that .... good spotting
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: billstup on July 29, 2007, 07:35 PM
...on that pic the seat tube looks round as well.....

Yep, thats going to be a bit of a bast to do  :(
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: theRuler on July 29, 2007, 07:36 PM
do it!!

what a build that would be

and a tribute to the great man
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: harris on July 29, 2007, 07:39 PM
drop maurice meyer a pm  mark  i think hes up on these or was it the boss freestyler im thinking of..
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: theRuler on July 29, 2007, 07:40 PM
mm may have some good photos / info to work from too
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: Lazarou on July 29, 2007, 07:40 PM
They did a Boss Vander tribute.....

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/BossFSulkona13copy.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/BossFSulkona14copy.jpg)

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v432/Lazarou63/BossFSulkona6copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: harris on July 29, 2007, 07:42 PM
thats the one i was thinking of i reckon,one on ebay at the mo.
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 07:42 PM
yeah thats Timo's bike aka 2fresh.
nice bike, but I have to admit i still think of vander as a skyway rider because of the bmxa article and the death tribute using the same photos in rad
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: Lazarou on July 29, 2007, 07:46 PM
Yeah, he'll always be most associated with Skyway.
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 08:02 PM
I think this would need to be an outsource job .....
Only problem is most cycle builders and repairers use brass welding which would look out of place on this frame.

I know of this old frame maker down in kent, "ken james" and he does ok stuff ... but only in brass welding.
I had a pair of GT forks shortend for a pit bike , which came out good ... but would have been a problem if I had needed them chrome.


I really want a vander beat, but it appaers with all the work needed its gonna take at least 4ton to a monkey to do ... and thats just the F&F.
Maybe I could ask rod miles if he could do one for me ... and then get it chromed on this side.
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: YGT on July 29, 2007, 08:36 PM
actually the more I look at this bike, the more I see small problems.
the seatstays need to be fully removed and redone .......
the dropouts are different.
the coaster tab needs to be moved.


in fact it appears it would be better to take a street scene and modify that as the seat tube is already round on that.

I just wonder if the street scene was hi-ten / trimolly
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: Lazarou on July 29, 2007, 08:44 PM
Don't know for sure but i'd guess at Tri-moly....
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: highrisedrifter on August 01, 2007, 05:25 PM
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/t198/postal_3/Picture922.jpg)

I don't think it's exact. it's nice though.

 :daumenhoch:

HRD
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on August 01, 2007, 05:30 PM


speak to fuzzynod he could most proberly get one built from scratch
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: stuntmaster on August 01, 2007, 05:51 PM


speak to fuzzynod he could most proberly get one built from scratch

and if you are lucky do the quarter mile in about 7 seconds  ;D
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: jT Racing on August 01, 2007, 07:03 PM
LOL, dave van der spek. (dave from the fat)
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: rarman1 on August 01, 2007, 09:27 PM
that chrome beat is lurvely!!!!!!


slumph
Title: Re: Vander Beat
Post by: theRuler on August 02, 2007, 10:55 PM
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