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Events => Old School Series Racing => Topic started by: RATTY on May 15, 2008, 10:26 PM
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A few people ask about the old school racing scene so I will try and include all relevant info in this thread.
OSS racing is a great way to get back into BMX or even for first timers, there is no pressure and competition is what you want to make it.
There are quite a few tracks in most regions that will allow the Old school to have a gate at races, the main exception is at national level. The best ones are at club level where its a pretty laid back event. Contact me with your location and I will put you in touch with a local OS rider who will show you the ropes.
Rules.
Old bmx bike (preferably pre 1991 and 20" wheels) must have a 1" threaded headset and caliper brakes.
Crash helmet, gloves, long sleeves and trousers or suitable pads must be worn
Registeration varies from £2 to £10 depending on where you race.
Licences are only needed if you race at regional level or above.
Dont take it too seriously, its ment to be fun :daumenhoch:
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Creamy and me have just started racing OS in the North West Region.
We are both totally useless but its great fun and we're both loving every minute of it!!!
So it we can do it, anyone can!!!
Even little old ladies!!! :daumenhoch:
And we always come last!!!!! :)
Don't be shy and pop along to one of the races near you if you want a better idea of what goes on.
South, North and the Scottish Region Old School Race Meets information can be found here on RADBMX in this section (Old School Racing) and
on this website http://www.ossbmxracing.co.uk.
This site also includes pictures and details of some the riders, if you want to see what sort of men would take up OS BMX Racing!!!!
The Answer : It takes all sorts!! The Fat, The Thin, The Agile, The Decrepid. I fall into the latter category.........and the first!!!
If your have kids then its a good way to get them exercising as they would love to race too!!
So its a good family day out!!!
You could even get your missus racing too, if it wont affect the sunday roast!!!! :LolLolLolLol:
All the OS Racing lads are down to earth and very welcoming to newbies, so dont worry about it!!!
You'll love it!!!! :daumenhoch:
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OK then what the crack with AD lugs
Surely they ain't allowed
and no grinding them off
Or are they legit ::)
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My Haro Group One RS1 had lugs on as well as caliper mounts.
So I dont think having them on ya bike is a problem
But you can't use them.
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i wouldn't want em on the forks though.....might impale ya if you take a tumble?? :crazy2:
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Good question
Ive a frame on the way thats got 1" threaded headset and forks, caliper mount on the seat stay, but has AD lugs on the chain stay
Surely if a caliper brake is used its os legal?
Its an early nineties frame not new school.
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I suppose Alan Woods ( ALANS bmx ) is ' THE' man to ask as he started the O/S racing marlarky , didn't he
so he must have made the rules ???
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My Haro Group One RS1 had lugs on as well as caliper mounts.
So I dont think having them on ya bike is a problem
But you can't use them.
As per Alans race series:- The only bike with lugs that can race in old school is Haro Group One, like yours. It was something to with the fact they came out 1986, or something like that.
:)
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Aww feck... >:(
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Aww feck... >:(
Stick some haro stickers on it, no one will say a thing :daumenhoch:
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A few people ask about the old school racing scene so I will try and include all relevant info in this thread.
OSS racing is a great way to get back into BMX or even for first timers, there is no pressure and competition is what you want to make it.
There are quite a few tracks in most regions that will allow the Old school to have a gate at races, the main exception is at national level. The best ones are at club level where its a pretty laid back event. Contact me with your location and I will put you in touch with a local OS rider who will show you the ropes.
Rules.
Old bmx bike (preferably pre 1991 and 20" wheels) must have a 1" threaded headset and caliper brakes.
Crash helmet, gloves, long sleeves and trousers or suitable pads must be worn
Registeration varies from £2 to £10 depending on where you race.
Licences are only needed if you race at regional level or above.
Dont take it too seriously, its ment to be fun :daumenhoch:
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Hi, I was wondering if you guys had any rounds in the south west, I cant see any rounds listed on the ossracing website in my area (I'm in Devon). Is there anything in the pipeline? We have great tracks at burnham, exeter, decoy(newtonabbot) Tiverton, Torquay. I'm keen to get involved as I could only manage to go racing once when I was kid, my parents worked at weekends!! I've got a bike, and the kit and I'm thirsty to race. :daumenhoch:
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Just wanted to add that i did my first OS race at the weekend and loved every minute of it! there was a superb atmosphere and all the guys made me feel really welcome! the only problem i had with the whole weekend was the fact that i realised the old Goose just isn't really suited to a 6' 2" 38 year old and it cost me £100 for a new Hyper! :2funny:
but i shall be back on the gate very soon for more fun and action :daumenhoch:
just have a go people and you'll love it! i came last and a couple of 4th places in my motos and enjoyed every minute!
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Pickle I am completly up for it, but all the races in my area are new school!!! My nearest round this year now is herseden or bad, bloody miles away!!!!! Although I could maybe do BAD and incorporate bringing the wife to see her sis in London..
But I still would like to see some rounds down here I reckon there are loads of south west old schoolers who would be up for it (although I am new on the scene so thats just total conjecture) :2funny:
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i completely understand your problem mate..........traveling up from down there is not a great prospect.......surely there must be some local guys down there???
Come on peeps make yourself known! :daumenhoch:
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Start a new thread about setting a series up, If you can get 6 or up it will work, pm me and I can help set you up with the points etc.
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there must be a bunch of us down South!
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I think each region should have enough riders to generate a gate of Old School racing shouldn't they?
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I only ever raced once, at Woodham Warriors in about 84 or so. I'm in the process of building a Haro Group1 RS1and would love to give it another go, wheres my nearest track now, WW is no more isnt it?
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I only ever raced once, at Woodham Warriors in about 84 or so. I'm in the process of building a Haro Group1 RS1and would love to give it another go, wheres my nearest track now, WW is no more isnt it?
Alright S1, I was from Woodham and so was Crooch. There is a bunch of guys getting together to rebuild the old track. Have a look on here
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7014068622
Or pop down there on a Saturday if you are still local, you will probably find Scott Weeks and a bunch of other guys doing some work down there.
If you are still in Woodham you have got Braintree and Dagenham tracks that are not to far. If you want to have a go at racing, get yourself down to MK next weekend. It is going to be mental.
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I only ever raced once, at Woodham Warriors in about 84 or so. I'm in the process of building a Haro Group1 RS1and would love to give it another go, wheres my nearest track now, WW is no more isnt it?
Alright S1, I was from Woodham and so was Crooch. There is a bunch of guys getting together to rebuild the old track. Have a look on here
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7014068622
Or pop down there on a Saturday if you are still local, you will probably find Scott Weeks and a bunch of other guys doing some work down there.
If you are still in Woodham you have got Braintree and Dagenham tracks that are not to far. If you want to have a go at racing, get yourself down to MK next weekend. It is going to be mental.
Im actually from Burnham, I think I know Scott from years ago, never knew he was a BMX'er tho. We have a few mutual Facebook friends so I reckon its him although his pic dont look like the Scott I knew, not saying he hasnt aged well or nowt :daumenhoch:
Would love to come to MK but im going to Ford Fair. Hopefully be able to make some other meets tho soon.
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I only ever raced once, at Woodham Warriors in about 84 or so. I'm in the process of building a Haro Group1 RS1and would love to give it another go, wheres my nearest track now, WW is no more isnt it?
Alright S1, I was from Woodham and so was Crooch. There is a bunch of guys getting together to rebuild the old track. Have a look on here
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7014068622
Or pop down there on a Saturday if you are still local, you will probably find Scott Weeks and a bunch of other guys doing some work down there.
If you are still in Woodham you have got Braintree and Dagenham tracks that are not to far. If you want to have a go at racing, get yourself down to MK next weekend. It is going to be mental.
Im actually from Burnham, I think I know Scott from years ago, never knew he was a BMX'er tho. We have a few mutual Facebook friends so I reckon its him although his pic dont look like the Scott I knew, not saying he hasnt aged well or nowt :daumenhoch:
Would love to come to MK but im going to Ford Fair. Hopefully be able to make some other meets tho soon.
Hi mate
Im in touch with Scott most days - what is your name and ill pass on a hi.
he's building a haro rs1 as well
Pop over to WW - the track is sort of rideable now, we have spent the last year clearing it from 20 years of growth - a lot of hard work has gone into it and we are waiting on planning now befroe we can do much more.
We have the diggers in this weekend to flatten certain bits so its getting to the stage where its rideable but only as a single track. We had the gate up the other day, bloody heavy thing it was.
Think the next dagenham meeting is a summer series meet on the 17th August
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I only ever raced once, at Woodham Warriors in about 84 or so. I'm in the process of building a Haro Group1 RS1and would love to give it another go, wheres my nearest track now, WW is no more isnt it?
Alright S1, I was from Woodham and so was Crooch. There is a bunch of guys getting together to rebuild the old track. Have a look on here
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7014068622
Or pop down there on a Saturday if you are still local, you will probably find Scott Weeks and a bunch of other guys doing some work down there.
If you are still in Woodham you have got Braintree and Dagenham tracks that are not to far. If you want to have a go at racing, get yourself down to MK next weekend. It is going to be mental.
Im actually from Burnham, I think I know Scott from years ago, never knew he was a BMX'er tho. We have a few mutual Facebook friends so I reckon its him although his pic dont look like the Scott I knew, not saying he hasnt aged well or nowt :daumenhoch:
Would love to come to MK but im going to Ford Fair. Hopefully be able to make some other meets tho soon.
Hi mate
Im in touch with Scott most days - what is your name and ill pass on a hi.
he's building a haro rs1 as well
Pop over to WW - the track is sort of rideable now, we have spent the last year clearing it from 20 years of growth - a lot of hard work has gone into it and we are waiting on planning now befroe we can do much more.
We have the diggers in this weekend to flatten certain bits so its getting to the stage where its rideable but only as a single track. We had the gate up the other day, bloody heavy thing it was.
Think the next dagenham meeting is a summer series meet on the 17th August
My name is Paul Roberts, IIRC I knew Scott thru Martin Lock.
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he does know Martin, so that would be him.
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he does know Martin, so that would be him.
Just realised I was thinking of totally the wrong person ???
I remembered why I know Scott tho, he was a friend of one of my ex's. IIRC he was into the VW Golf scene at the time, that sound right?
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he does know Martin, so that would be him.
Just realised I was thinking of totally the wrong person ???
I remembered why I know Scott tho, he was a friend of one of my ex's. IIRC he was into the VW Golf scene at the time, that sound right?
yeah that would be him, total petrol head, he did actually say he couldnt recall you.... ;)
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he does know Martin, so that would be him.
Just realised I was thinking of totally the wrong person ???
I remembered why I know Scott tho, he was a friend of one of my ex's. IIRC he was into the VW Golf scene at the time, that sound right?
yeah that would be him, total petrol head, he did actually say he couldnt recall you.... ;)
Not surprised, think I only met him once or twice. He's more likely to remember the car I had at the time, an Orange RS Turbo (still got it actually, but thats another story lol)
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yeah he would too
he on to fords now runs an immaculate 500bhp cossie sapphire. Total Tyre Shredder
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I fancy doing some OS riding, anyone in Cardiff/wider South Wales on the scene?
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Dgh, start a new thread, e.g 'Cardiff/South Wales Old School Riders'
It might catch more readers than being stuck in here! :daumenhoch:
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New to the forum - I was wondering if you can tell me of a contact in the Midlands - I am in Leicester - I have seen the event at Bunneys in early Oct. I have not raced there for over 20 + years
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welcome to rad mate, Dingo is the mouth for your area, send him a pm and im sure he will sort you out. :daumenhoch:
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I may have asked this already, but if so I cannot find my post (or any reply to it) ::)
Given the difficulty finding an OS legal bike (and also for nostalgic reasons) have been thinking of acquiring one of the 25th anniversary Super Tuff Burners. Although not old, they would seem to me to be within the spirit of OS. Anyone know whether the headsets are OS compliant?
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If its a 1" threaded headset and caliper brakes then :daumenhoch:
What region will you race in? ???
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Well Just finished my Pro-X and went out on It the other night, It seems so small and I found It tricky to ride to be honest. How am I supposed to get on a track and tackle doubles etc :idiot2: Not rode It for years :crazy2:
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Just get loads of track time in, find some mates to join ya :daumenhoch:
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Well Just finished my Pro-X and went out on It the other night, It seems so small and I found It tricky to ride to be honest. How am I supposed to get on a track and tackle doubles etc :idiot2: Not rode It for years :crazy2:
You in the same boat as most of us!!
Brain still think its 15 and body is well past knackered, its fooked!! :LolLolLolLol:
Join your local club! :daumenhoch:
If you've got a NS bike then ride that until your fitness and skill levels return. They are nicer to ride, have more room and are less sketchy.
Make sure your well padded and wear a helmet and take it easy.
Dont attempt the doubles after the first 10 minutes on the track................
.............wait at least half an hour!!! :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol: At 6ft tall the bike really seems tiny, Just put some NS bars on 28" width 8" rise I think, but feel too low? What does everyone else use? :daumenhoch: Is Warrington track still open? :daumenhoch:
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Thats the trouble with OS bikes and the long absence.
They dont feel as good as they used to.
A lot of OS racers go for bikes with a 20.5" or more TT so that they fit the ride.
There are quite a few OS Legal F+F's around that are more suitable for a 6ft'er.
I'm around 5'10" and a 20.5" TT suits me fine.
If you've only just got back on a BMX then its going to feel weird anyway.
Give it time and build your confidence and skill level up!! :daumenhoch:
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I live in kidderminster near birmingham is there any races near me that i can go to fancy giving this a go next year ?
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Theres quite a few riders on here from the Midlands.
Keep looking in this section!
Any news would get posted here!! :daumenhoch:
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ok will keep checking :daumenhoch:
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North Region is racing at Crewe in January (if the track mods are finished) if ya fancy a trip up!! :daumenhoch:
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Ok - here's a question for you......
I've got an old number plate and I'm assuming you need to have one to race (do you need one?), but how does the numbering work ?
Do you just pick a number you like and use it ? or if not, how do you get a race number ?
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Pick any number you want that isn't being used.
If you turn up with the same number on your plate as another rider then they would probably alter your plate with some sticky back plastic or empty bog rolls like blue peter to either alter your number or add an X or something (I'm only guessing because I have never seen this situation come up with the Northern Monkey's and I haven't raced that long).
Also If you turn up without a plate then they will provide you with one and some string to attach it to your bars (at least they do oop north). So if you ain't got one then don't worry. If they don't have spare plates then someone will have a paper plate or some cardboard and a pen for that authentic early 70's look!! :daumenhoch:
Don't choose 1 for your number plate Unless :-
A. Your really good and plan on beating everyone your first time out.
B. You won the last series
C. Your balls are so big that you can take the flak you will recieve when you trundle around the track at 5 miles an hour due to not riding a bike for the last 30 years
Have fun!! :daumenhoch:
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Pick any number you want that isn't being used.
If you turn up with the same number on your plate as another rider then they would probably alter your plate with some sticky back plastic or empty bog rolls like blue peter to either alter your number or add an X or something (I'm only guessing because I have never seen this situation come up with the Northern Monkey's and I haven't raced that long).
Also If you turn up without a plate then they will provide you with one and some string to attach it to your bars (at least they do oop north). So if you ain't got one then don't worry. If they don't have spare plates then someone will have a paper plate or some cardboard and a pen for that authentic early 70's look!! :daumenhoch:
Don't choose 1 for your number plate Unless :-
A. Your really good and plan on beating everyone your first time out.
B. You won the last series
C. Your balls are so big that you can take the flak you will recieve when you trundle around the track at 5 miles an hour due to not riding a bike for the last 30 years
Have fun!! :daumenhoch:
Thanks for the details - I will not be picking number 1, as I don't expect to be any good first time out, I haven't won anything on a BMX bike since the 1980's, and my balls are not of the required size to take the flak !
And above all, I'm only going to be doing it for fun when I take my son to race, so I don't have any intention of taking it that seriously (unless, of course, Faze7-Dave decides to race, and then I'll need to use my elbows !).
I was thinking of 84, so hopefully that won't be a problem.
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What region will you be racing in?
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What region will you be racing in?
I'm based in North London, so I'll give the Southern Region a go. I hope to get to the Dagenham race on 7th Dec but the Quad won't be ready for then (so I'll be there watching my son racing). Maybe the bike will be ready for the next round......
Is the number 84 available for that region ?
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its first come first served mate, pretty sure no one used 84 last season
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its first come first served mate, pretty sure no one used 84 last season
84 it is then ! cheers
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Riders ready Elbows ready watch the gate ...........
The GT is up and running, following a quick spruce up with the tin foil and coke it doesn't look to bad. Thanks to Faze 7 Ade and Mrs Faze 7 for the wheels. Really looking forward to racing on Sunday just to see if I can get round in one piece and getting over the jumps.
Do I pick my number on the day at registration???
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yes mate - just not no. 19!!!
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Hi guys
Having been at coppull yesterday with my lad who raced expert male 11yrs old, I really enjoyed seeing the old skool race, funny as f**k in a good way that is, I've been looking for a class to race in this year but how do I go about getting a bike suitable for this class? I had a PK Ripper in the early 80,s but where can I get a bike to use?
Any advice very welcome
Cheers
Daz
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Hi guys
Having been at coppull yesterday with my lad who raced expert male 11yrs old, I really enjoyed seeing the old skool race, funny as f**k in a good way that is, I've been looking for a class to race in this year but how do I go about getting a bike suitable for this class? I had a PK Ripper in the early 80,s but where can I get a bike to use?
Any advice very welcome
Cheers
Daz
Theres plenty of OS legal bikes/F & F etc, etc about on EBAY and on here in the For Sale Section.
1" Headset and Caliper mount brakes.
If your tall then a top tube length of 20.5" or over might suit you better than a normal 19.5" TT that most older Pro frames had!!
MADD DOGG sells OS legal Frames and forks every week!! ;)
If you want to race at Crewe then let me know. We'll try and sort a ride out for you until you get yours sorted!!
Just give me a PM :daumenhoch:
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Hi
Is that all you need a 1" headstock sized frame and caliper brakes? I thought you might need 1 piece cranks and stuff as well....... won't be racing till I get sorted so may not be crewe maybe preston as I have a race license... I,ll come and say hello at crewe, what will you be on?
Cheers daz
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nope thats it just the headset and the brake. most of the OS are not the lightest bunch and the OPC's are not really cut out for the pressures they are now expected of them. most will use a 3 piece crank of some sort.
feel free to ask any questions you may have - loads of useless knowledge on here....
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I,ll come and say hello at crewe, what will you be on?
Just find any old git on an OS kid's bike!! You'll soon get introduced to everyone!!
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. :LolLolLolLol:Any old git on an OS bike, that sums up quite a few... I'm now off to collect some stuff for my new old bike, bit like the the old woman, she's new but old
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I,m starting to feel more confident after reading this thread :LolLolLolLol:
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I,m starting to feel more confident after reading this thread :LolLolLolLol:
Same ere, nice velle by the way :daumenhoch:
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I,m starting to feel more confident after reading this thread :LolLolLolLol:
Same ere, nice velle by the way :daumenhoch:
You gonna be racing in't North region Paul?
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Hi Ratty
I'm an old schooler who is looking to get
back into some fun racing. I've just finishes
building my Redline PRoline PL20.
Went to MK last week and had a go.
Loved it.
I live near Amersham Bucks. Any ideas
on tracks and next OS race meet?
Scott
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H Scott, Not sure where your nearest track is, but have a look on www.badbmx.com or the hayes website as well as here to see what races are on, its worth contacting the organisers first to make sure they are running an os class.
One I would difinately recommend is a road trip to Hersden later on this year, great OS turn out down there. Oh and keep an eye on this section for any meets coming up.. :daumenhoch:
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I'm in northampton and used to race at milton keynes when my bones wern't brittle! Where is my nearest meet to race os? Can anyone help???
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Hi there,
Just got back into bmx racing again after too long away.I joined the forum to catch up on what I've been missing for all these years.
After getting my son involved in BMX racing I decided to dig out my old '86 Robinson pro from my mums' loft. Seeing that the yerars hadn't been too kind to it I gave it a thorough service as rust had set in and the bearing grease had turned to gloop.
I love how my bike handles and rides and prefer it to the longer bikes of today except for one crutial factor...my brakes' performance.
BITD when I was in my prime and weighing 9 stone :fart: my Dia Compe MX1000 brake was more than capable of slowing me down. However, :wtf: 25yrs later, 13.5 stone in weight and a waist line bigger than my inside leg measuerement ;D and my brake just won't do the job. I've tried tweaking the caliper and changing the blocks, but with limited success.
Anyway, do any of you out there have any suggestions on how I can improve my braking performance.
I was also wondering if the new 'Retro' bikes such as the PK Ripper qualified as 'old school' if I were to race one in the OS category. I've always fancied one but was a bit sceptical of aluminium frames BITD.
Any comments or advise would be much appreciated.
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In short:
Get softer brake blocks and/or a more stable brake such as an Odyssey Pitbull.
No, New School retro bikes are not allowed - most of the fun of Old Skool is in wobbling around on a bike that's too small and too flexy. Unless you get a mid-skool bike that's still allowed :-X (ie has 1" threaded forks and no brake bosses or mounts).
The new aluminium frames actually ride okay if you do want one as well as the Robbo. I tried a Floval Flier in the mid-80s and the ride was so harsh that I thought my teeth would fall out :LolLolLolLol:
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Hey all,
Raced a bit as a kid on my KZ1 but would love to have another bash at it on my LaserLite when its finished. I live in Rushden Northants. would Milton Keynes be the closest track to me?
Thanks :)
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I raced for one year in 1985 on a Raleigh Burner and am interested in 'southern old school racing'.
Where can I find details please?
I live near Wimbledon in SW London, and over the last three years have built several old school rides. I know a new track is being built at Mitcham just down the road.
Any help appreciated!
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Hello mate, Im afraid most OS racing has been ruled out now by rule changes, you might find a locval track that will allow you to race, but BCF have all but banned OS racing now :'(
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Hello mate, Im afraid most OS racing has been ruled out now by rule changes, you might find a locval track that will allow you to race, but BCF have all but banned OS racing now :'(
Plenty of OS racing 'oop North (unless I've missed something about it being dropped from this 2012 regionals :-\ )
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Hello mate, Im afraid most OS racing has been ruled out now by rule changes, you might find a locval track that will allow you to race, but BCF have all but banned OS racing now :'(
you can still join in on an old school ride - you'll just have to be in with the Vets thats all...