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Title: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on July 22, 2009, 09:02 PM
got a email from ajkbikes today, he has been told to stop doing GT decals immediately by pacific cycles the owner of GT bikes, what a bunch of cnuts. not as tho he is gonna become a millionaire is it, bunch of cnuts
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: magna13 on July 22, 2009, 09:11 PM
Just tell them to jog on i would, loads of other people are doing it! How pathetic! d*ckheads! >:(
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: diesel on July 22, 2009, 10:01 PM
I'd suggest that anyone wanting these offers him trades for them immediately.

That way he has ceased to sell them as required - but you get your GT decals before he is no longer able to even trade them.

Pacific Cycles don't mess about - This has happen before with mongoose decals and others - Nobody wins only Pacific
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: CD17 on July 22, 2009, 10:35 PM
But how does Pacific win  ??? Unless they still make them  ???

Who's bothered about that GT Tat anyway  ::)   ;D
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: Del on July 23, 2009, 08:10 AM
people who repro decals should be shot!
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: meticulous on July 23, 2009, 08:18 AM
people who repro decals should be shot!

 :LolLolLolLol:

hung drawn and quartered would be more suitable, then we could watch just to see how long it takes..... :D
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: 20to26 on July 23, 2009, 08:46 AM
the GT decals have already been removed from his site. Man I hate these heartless corporations... :2gunsfiring_v1:
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: diesel on July 23, 2009, 10:05 AM
But how does Pacific win  ??? Unless they still make them  ???

Who's bothered about that GT Tat anyway  ::)   ;D

Pacific don't care - One letter from their lawyers, should be plenty warning, anyone silly enough to carry on after that will get squashed.

Tim who made the mongoose decals on Vintage years ago was stopped by them - They just don't care, if it infringes on their copy right © then they close you down. It took a long time and many conversations before Vintage got the rights to reproduce them (they just want their cut).

Bmx Museum was stopped by Se some years back.

Redline did the same, to anyone selling repros on the net.

It seems that the consensus is that if you only producing a very small amount to finish a project and recoup your basic cost, then they will probably turn a blind eye, but if you start marketing them and selling the in quantity then you'll get a letter from the spooks.

Like I said, I don't think they can touch him if he 'trades' the remainder of his stock.
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: MartyC on July 29, 2009, 03:33 PM
Copyright does not last in perpertuity, they are chancing their arm and pushing their luck.  The decals have been in the public domain for so long they would go broke pursuing an international claim.  I would be very surprised if any UK court would up hold any action and unlikely that after 30 odd years a US court would do the same.  Also, for them to win ANY claim they have to prove that a profit has been made form the sale of such items, no profit = no claim.  Easy get out clause and very, very hard for them to prove otherwise.  Tell Pacific to stick it up their ar$e and let them  rack up the legal bills to prove otherwise.  If in doubt, contact a copyright and patents lawyer  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: jimmyp on July 29, 2009, 03:43 PM
Copyright does not last in perpertuity, they are chancing their arm and pushing their luck.  The decals have been in the public domain for so long they would go broke pursuing an international claim.  I would be very surprised if any UK court would up hold any action and unlikely that after 30 odd years a US court would do the same.  Also, for them to win ANY claim they have to prove that a profit has been made form the sale of such items, no profit = no claim.  Easy get out clause and very, very hard for them to prove otherwise.  Tell Pacific to stick it up their ar$e and let them  rack up the legal bills to prove otherwise.  If in doubt, contact a copyright and patents lawyer  :daumenhoch:.

Spot on, i find it funny that we just take there word for it that they still have copyright to these decals. Copyright only last for so long and i doubt that these companys re-applied in the mid 90s when it was worthless. Just because the own the company GT bikes does not mean they still own the rights to the old stuff  ;)
Title: Re: ajkbikes getting squeezed by pacific cycles
Post by: Redline on July 29, 2009, 04:23 PM
They're all twatS in my opinion.

A few years back I was re-popping Redline Decal sets and selling them on the bay and a few on here. I only did it because the so called "Genuine" Redline decals are ALL SHITE! Graphically inaccurate and not printed on the correct materials etc. Their CNUTING Prostyler decals didn't even fit the seat tube for god's sake  :2funny:

Anyways... to cut a long story short I was threatened with a lawsuit by Seattle Bike Supply so had to give up selling them. I even offered to do their artwork for them for nowt to make sure their decals were correct cos their graphics designers aint worth a hoot! They weren't interested about quality at all just the $$$$$$$$
 :rant:

John
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