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Technical & Reference Section => Tech and Restoration => Topic started by: Glynnyboy on February 13, 2021, 09:04 PM
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Bought this Mongoose Pro Class a few weeks back. No original finish left. What I thought might have been remnants of it were where the nickel itself had actually perished and come off leaving the bear metal showing through. So the frame is going for restoration. Not sure on what route I'm going down yet but I think it's going to be having the frame re nickel plated then have some nickel bar testers done with option of finishes to choose from.
I?d had an mx900/mx1000 + tech 3 brake set chromed and the earlier pads made as a change option for my Cali but they are now going on this. This is getting stripped , the rims are off for chrome then the wheels are getting rebuilt on black suzue sealed hubs. The bars, stem, grips and pro class power disc /chainring from my Cali will be used.
(https://i.ibb.co/JBHRMrt/1983-mongoose-Pro-Class.jpg)
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I want to use fork decals like those on the mock up in the early catalogue as I think they'll look pretty awesome on the finish.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SbxQrc/82-83-mongoose-catalogue-pro-class-mock-up-pic.jpg)
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Decals arrived and I think those fork decals could be a nice addition, if not they can always come off but looking at them I think they will look pretty smart the prismatic edge needs trimming off but looking forward to seeing them on the frame when refinished. Basically the intention for this build is nice rider and it will replace my Cali in my rider line up.
(https://i.ibb.co/2sYBVn1/Mongoose-Pro-Class-decals.jpg)
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Seat needed decals, thanks to the decal master del.
(https://i.ibb.co/xFCt7RV/Viscount-aero-Bmx-aero-side-decal.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Fh7kFGZ/Viscount-aero-seat-rear-mongoose-decal.jpg)
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Love the headset on that catalogue pic. Mongoose chrome headset with black cups. I've got some og 80's black cups that were left in an old kuwi frame I had and I have the mongoose stamped headset. I'm using the ESP copy stem I have on my Cali because although there's one on this pic the bike actually came with a pro class stem, I've found when running pc bars you need a xxl stem so you can pull the bars back enough otherwise they feel shite as they have a negligible rake. The flex fighter I'm going to use will be a chromed jam buttie, my little hat tip to the Ruffell pc 😁 as he sported one on his.
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Glynn, great find this is going to be killer. Lovely parts haul on her too. Looking forward to seeing this come together, your work is always inspiring. :popcorn:
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Glynn, great find this is going to be killer. Lovely parts haul on her too. Looking forward to seeing this come together, your work is always inspiring. :popcorn:
Thanks mate. We all have our own slant on stuff. I haven't seen a dark pro class build that's truly knocked my socks off more than a few of the rarer chrome ones. I'm sure this won't be every ones cup of tea. Things I'm wrestling with but fancy doing are the fork decals and although the 84 did have a pro class power disc it looks like a normal chainring and not the familiar takagi one that appeared with the disc on the 85 Cali range. I thought balls to it though I'm not after show with this and these changes I just fancy on my rider, we'll see how it pans out :coolsmiley:
I'm promising my self a few photos of this and my nearly completed HLT build. I think seeing the mongoose and diamond back top range offerings together would be nice to see. Hopefully both will be set for the summer.
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Very nice. :) Can't wait to see finished. :daumenhoch:
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(https://i.ibb.co/2sYBVn1/Mongoose-Pro-Class-decals.jpg)
Are these from Mongoose? :daumenhoch:
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Are these from Mongoose? :daumenhoch:
Those are yes mate. Apparently really difficult to recreate and apparently used on another model but also used in that early mock up.
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One of my (many) dream bikes bitd! :smitten:
I know and appreciate that I can't see the bad spots in that first pic but man, the frame looks great as it is!! :daumenhoch:
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One of my (many) dream bikes bitd! :smitten:
I know and appreciate that I can't see the bad spots in that first pic but man, the frame looks great as it is!! :daumenhoch:
Yeah that's what I thought and hoped. There's a big peel on the other side where the down tube meets the headtube. No nickel left on the inside of the rear dropouts or the matchbox, some missing off the bb and also the brake bridge and dotted about peeling in other spots. If it had been as good as it looks in that pic I?d have been well chuffed. Sadly not on closer inspection. I was hoping to just change a few parts over , clean it up and off we go, if it had been leftover finish and not peel I?d have done that. It deserves protection imo when the nickel has peeled its crossed the line for me . I?d have rather not pumped any mor money into it to be honest but I know I'll be glad when it's finished.
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Close to my dream 80s bike (the loop Supergoose that looked pretty much identical).
Looking forward to seeing this get done !
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My absolute dream bike BITD and I did a few when I was collecting o/s a while back. The problem with the smoked chrome finish was it was just too delicate, so a decent chrome one sounds the right way to go :coolsmiley:
Will be keeping an eye on this mate, I do enjoy your builds :smitten:
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I love a pro class and I like the builds you do so this will be a winner explosion
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My absolute dream bike BITD and I did a few when I was collecting o/s a while back. The problem with the smoked chrome finish was it was just too delicate, so a decent chrome one sounds the right way to go :coolsmiley:
Will be keeping an eye on this mate, I do enjoy your builds :smitten:
I only know of one place that replicates the finish metal wise, a place in oz but the frame isn't doing a round the world trip. The frame will be getting re nickel plated then I'm getting a few nickel bars with testers of translucents to replicate it with a candy. The finish on my Raleigh cruiser was the same as the pro class and I got that very close. Sadly with that been 10 year ago that finish is discontinued so the hunt is on.
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I love a pro class and I like the builds you do so this will be a winner explosion
Thanks Brett, fingers crossed.
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Thats going to look very cool indeed, I have the PC frame but no forks so hard to find :(
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Got these coming now . Got to admit I'm even more giddy now about it.
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Sexy stuff Glynn mate :coolsmiley:
A Goose build and a Glynn build all in one..... winner :smitten: :4_17_5:
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When I got the cranks it was just spindle, bb & crank arms. That left me looking for crank caps . Had a delivery this morning, just over a week from Australia for some repo pro class crank caps. The guy at VRC cycles does some decent caps & badges to help get your pedals/ cranks up to scratch.
Also got a message back from MR Creations, the frame and forks are going in the end of March. Hopefully butts will have the rims chromed by then so I should be good for getting it all together in April 😎
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This is going to look amazing! 8)
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As I said earlier the frame looks in better condition in those first pics than it is. I've got a date to send off to Mark Ralph now so I decided to give it a citric bath .lt's cleaned the rust off the nickle flake areas, I was impressed with the state it left the inside of the match box because that was full of rust. It gives Mark a clean base to work his majic now. To me this definitely has crossed that survivor line and has entered the rat look region. My opinion on that is that I?d rather it be coated/restored so it's fully protected with the inside wax oiled. Although I do appreciate a good survivor I?d take a decent restoration over a ratter any day. After all back in the day I never dreamed of owning the history in 40 years time , it was the bikes I saw on the pages of bmx action bike that I wanted.
(https://i.ibb.co/mSmCjYw/642-E2-AA8-C6-B7-4788-87-A9-25727511576-F.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HnsFZwV/1-EBB1-D85-DC39-4-D33-892-C-CD6-E3-B794-C3-A.jpg)
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Got sent these pics today from Mark Ralph . He had some problems with coating the frame because of its condition. He tackled it by clear coats of resin to level out any discrepancies due to the nickel peel areas. Then the colour went on. It's going to be curing over the weekend ready to ship back to me next week.
(https://i.ibb.co/cNng6kT/BF3-BE1-A4-63-F8-4-A47-B34-A-332-E1-EE8942-A.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/SNzN9S4/F4360-B29-D745-47-D5-BD69-07-E64-FFAD5-BF.jpg)
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Sexy :coolsmiley:
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Sexy :coolsmiley:
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That's exactly what I was thinking just before I scrolled down to your comment ;D
I've always loved the black chrome finishes on the Pro Class. :daumenhoch:
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fistblump fistblump looks sweet as explosion explosion
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:4_17_5:
When's it going in BOTM - just so I know not to enter :)
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Got the frame & forks back today . I'm really pleased with the finish. It looks close to a couple of nos pro class pics I've seen so will do for me :coolsmiley:
(https://i.ibb.co/thTQb8c/856-BE7-AF-CC5-C-4836-9-C6-D-3-DD007-A2284-C.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZgWjPDw/C7-C92573-4-DF9-47-EB-831-B-2-EE7224-A34-A2.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/d7s0Wj0/18-C92-AAB-80-E6-443-C-9-E21-FE8-E8-B49-E0-BA.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Sfdc8Zr/B0-E05-B05-9472-411-F-9095-0-ABDA4-FC99-A3.jpg)
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Smoked chrome... love it. :smitten:
Nice work Glynn. :daumenhoch:
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Turned out really nice Glynn, top work :smitten:. Will be another cracking build I'm sure :popcorn:.
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That finish looks amazing Glynn mate fistblump :smitten:
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(https://i.ibb.co/TmpvP1S/BF53455-F-2-BB9-41-F3-B1-A3-E9331408884-F.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/V3fXJFD/592-DF7-BB-F117-46-F7-AC25-9486-EA4-A9376.jpg)
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Pedals chromed , rims chromed and built. Looking forward to picking these up shortly.
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Very nice Glynn, been waiting for an update on this mate :popcorn:
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Gonna be a killer build, a winner already and its not even built :)
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explosion explosion ching ching that is looking shiny explosion explosion
Yet another outstanding build on the way fistblump
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(https://i.ibb.co/YNngc0X/F612089-A-FEE2-4-D14-B098-F72812-BD77-DC.jpg) (https://i.ibb.co/X5WBQHx/9-FD89-B6-F-846-B-49-D6-9653-866-BF8-EA9-CA8.jpg)
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:coolsmiley:
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The wheels look great but man, that frame came out gorgeous!!! :smitten:
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Had to post because I'm giddy as feck. Been sat putting this together and I'm nearly there. Just the pedals to build and it's done. I'll get that done and some outside pics tomorrow. At the moment I can't stop looking at it :2funny: I'm well chuft with how it turned out.
(https://i.ibb.co/Hqgvc92/77-B8-E692-8-C60-4-B5-A-B833-0-E13-E1-A6-C42-C.jpg)
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Stunner Gylnn mate.... but I'd expect nothing less from a man of your skills.....
fistblump 8)
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8) as milk. :daumenhoch:
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Stunner Gylnn mate.... but I'd expect nothing less from a man of your skills.....
fistblump 8)
Thanks mate. I've changed my mind on stuff numerous times and finally got to a place where I'm happy with it.
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Stunner Gylnn mate.... but I'd expect nothing less from a man of your skills.....
fistblump 8)
Thanks mate. I've changed my mind on stuff numerous times and finally got to a place where I'm happy with it.
I'll come and see it in the flesh one of these days mate..... when I finally come and pick up my wheels :2funny: :LolLolLolLol:
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BOTM if not BOTY!!! :smitten:
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Oh yeah :coolsmiley:
fistblump 8) explosion
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Incredible. I hope we all meet up some day so I can see these bikes.
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It's an absolute stunner....I had a ratty. Supergoose bits
And loved it. Handled just neutral...
Who did you use for chroming rims?
Rgds
Chris
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Stunning bike! It may just be the lighting in the pics or my fading eyesight but the frame seems to have a slight, brownish tinge to it which I flippin' love the look of!! :smitten:
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Stunning bike! It may just be the lighting in the pics or my fading eyesight but the frame seems to have a slight, brownish tinge to it which I flippin' love the look of!! :smitten:
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Agreed, that is a gorgeous finish. From top to bottom this is a thing of beauty and is simply stunning :bow:
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Stunning bike! It may just be the lighting in the pics or my fading eyesight but the frame seems to have a slight, brownish tinge to it which I flippin' love the look of!! :smitten:
Yeah it does, not sure if it's just the translucent or it's that mixed with the yellow tint of the nickel showing through. Here's a pic of mine and an original nos pro class underneath it.
(https://i.ibb.co/5vsczLR/4-C3-F7629-34-E7-49-E8-92-D1-10027664-A21-C.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q9XHnfX/96-F116-E3-80-BE-4-D09-B049-FF12-E04-FA171.jpg)
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Either way, it rocks! :slayer:
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Amazing as always explosion
My favourite bike BITD. This looks like it should be sat in a shop window around Christmas 1983 :smitten: