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Events => Old School Series Racing => Topic started by: nhoj on October 22, 2010, 06:06 PM
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At the North Region AGM the other night, all committee members stood down. There were no nominations for new committee members andso as it stands it is up to the clubs to get together and sort something out!!!
Personally I don't know how bad this is, but I hope peeps can get together to sort things out for the future.
Will be a shame if BMX racing up North dies :'(
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Doesn't sound good. Anyone know any insider information on what's going on?
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I just got a generic email that went to all Leeds club members andso I don't know anymore :-\
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Hmmm, sounds political.
This doesn't mean there's no North Region - just no comittee :-\ . I expect some comittee members get fed up taking sh!t for giving up their time with little thanks and no reward.
I hope this can get sorted as I have had nothing but positive experiences whilst racing in't North.
EDIT: I just read this thread on TALK - http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31669 - and there seems to be a rather more postive reporting of the North Region AGM. Sounds like the the core ladies are moving on after years of dedication but otherwise, the futures bright!
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To me (and I may be wrong) it looks like BCF gives the regions and clubs very little support, and they are the main association that we all pay in to - so where does all the money go?
I'm happy to be corrected if this isn't the case.
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politics.. if clubs are holding races it up to US as riders to turn up and support each and every club possible. BMX racing will never die as long as people get on their bikes and turn up and ride. :daumenhoch:
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so where does all the money go?
Up there fkin noses! Tossers have been bothering me with emails and calls saying my membership is up but as I race OS I see fook all for my fee's CVNTS :2gunsfiring_v1:
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I just got a generic email that went to all Leeds club members andso I don't know anymore :-\
Can you post the email?
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Just sent the message to your email address Molster :daumenhoch:
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:daumenhoch:
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get it up
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get it up
Chance `d be a fine thing at his age :daumenhoch:
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BCF don't want to know about bmx, they only see it as riders to poach for track and road.
we need more support in bcf or like ratty and i have said we reform UKBMX and make our voice known that way :daumenhoch:
andy
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BCF don't want to know about bmx
Tad harsh that Andy, they are building a massive BMX complex right next to the velodrome oop north, hardly the actions of an organisation that is against BMX.
I do feel the same as you though re stuff at our level :daumenhoch:
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get it up
Chance `d be a fine thing at his age :daumenhoch:
I can help with that ;)
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Andy - I think you have a very good point there. Considering the high regard that BMX activities are held in by Councils, Schools, Community/Youth Groups, parents etc, I get the strong impression that BCF is failing to support/promote BMX properly at local level.
I know that there is an issue to do with being part of an internationally recognised body for European and World competition, and I guess that's why BMX linked up with BCF in the first place?
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:) Doesn`t help that virtually nobody has stepped forward to take over.Not surprising as it is a big commitment & sometimes a thankless task.There will no doubt be another general meeting soon to try and resolve the problem.
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good point that james, a lot of time and personal effort is put in , with little thanks. may be if race subs were put up a pound and that was paid to the people who do give up so much time? just a thought.
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Andy - I think you have a very good point there. Considering the high regard that BMX activities are held in by Councils, Schools, Community/Youth Groups, parents etc, I get the strong impression that BCF is failing to support/promote BMX properly at local level.
I know that there is an issue to do with being part of an internationally recognised body for European and World competition, and I guess that's why BMX linked up with BCF in the first place?
It is not held in high regards by all Councils etc, you count up how many tracks there are nationwide,(considering bmx is now an Olympic sport) compared with say 30 years ago ?
How many tracks are there in the North east , Cumbria or Scotland ( considering the success of sir Chris Hoy )
Wasn't there talk of a track in Cumbria, how's that getting on !...
Maybe the BCF don't support BMX north of Birmingham ::)
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yep, Manchester indoor bmx centre... being built in Birmingham ;D
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yep, Manchester indoor bmx centre... being built in Birmingham ;D
OK, How about north of Manchetster :LolLolLolLol:
if you mention anything else i'll just keep moving the "goal posts" :-*
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good point that james, a lot of time and personal effort is put in , with little thanks. may be if race subs were put up a pound and that was paid to the people who do give up so much time? just a thought.
if bcf didnt take their bit for doing fook all in the north region, the subs could stay the same n the clubs would be quids in surely?
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VOTE OrgasmDonor. :-*
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cumbria, penrith went tits up! piss poor council :2gunsfiring_v1:
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if theres no more north region i might cash me tnt in and get a skatepark bike ???
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if theres no more north region i might cash me tnt in and get a skatepark bike ???
get a c50 on the road.
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Plac 90 :daumenhoch:
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if theres no more north region i might cash me tnt in and get a skatepark bike ???
thats when the big injuries really start coming in :LolLolLolLol:
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:) At some point an EGM will be called to discuss what has happened and see if anyone else has volunteered or had their names put forward.Summer Series won`t kick off until March so fingers crossed something will be decided by then.
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cumbria, penrith went tits up! piss poor council :2gunsfiring_v1:
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That's a polite way of saying what happened mate !
We was let down badly '
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:) Went to the EGM last night,a new commitee has been elected.All North Region club secretaries have been informed of the new line-up & hopefully this will be forwarded to club members and the North Region website soon.
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:) Went to the EGM last night,a new commitee has been elected.All North Region club secretaries have been informed of the new line-up & hopefully this will be forwarded to club members and the North Region website soon.
Spill the beans James - have they put you in charge?
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...there's been an Old School led coup - all clips, lycra and tarmac tracks banned with immediate effect. Lanes on the start-hill to be reinstated, along with parts of tracks where you can actually pedal. All berms to be lowered and loose surfaces added.
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More of a new school coup! There`ll be no OS at Regionals or club level as BC say the bikes are dangerous.Especially when ridden by fat bald men :daumenhoch:
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...there's been an Old School led coup - all clips, lycra and tarmac tracks banned with immediate effect. Lanes on the start-hill to be reinstated, along with parts of tracks where you can actually pedal. All berms to be lowered and loose surfaces added.
That all sounds grand Jon. What about the motion to make half-time freestyle shows compulsory - did it get passed?
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More of a new school coup! There`ll be no OS at Regionals or club level as BC say the bikes are dangerous.Especially when ridden by fat bald men stopping for ciggy half way round :daumenhoch:daumenhoch:
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...there's been an Old School led coup - all clips, lycra and tarmac tracks banned with immediate effect. Lanes on the start-hill to be reinstated, along with parts of tracks where you can actually pedal. All berms to be lowered and loose surfaces added.
That all sounds grand Jon. What about the motion to make half-time freestyle shows compulsory - did it get passed?
Yeah forgot that bit. Freestyle shows to be done by affro'd guys called Bob, with the crowd to shout 'Radical !' after every kickturn and bunnyhop :daumenhoch:
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More of a new school coup! There`ll be no OS at Regionals or club level as BC say the bikes are dangerous.Especially when ridden by fat bald men :daumenhoch:
:LolLolLolLol: So is O/S being replaced with a new class....expensive bike slow as you like :D
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http://www.bmxtalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32073
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OS dudes,
The new North region committee had it's first scheduled meeting last week at the Velodrome and I wanted to let you know it went really well.
Postive and helpful with good ideas and contrinution from all clubs (I was there for CGR).
I was impressed by Jez as chair and he has some good ideas that can really push the region forward over the next few years.
The main purpose of the meeting was to agree region dates for 2011 and assuming the dates are accepted by all of the clubs (not all could attend) then it looks like we have another cracking series next summer. There is even the possibility of sampling the new Blackpool track if that sits well with Gold Coast!
Anyhow. Alls good in the hood.
Oh - one thing that came out loud and clear with the region and all clubs is that this whole sport runs on volunteers. You guys know this and it it wasn't for Moley and his slaves there would be no footage for a start :)
If anyone has any ideas to drum up volunteer help or if anyone can help themselves make yourselves known (I know some already do a lot with their clubs).
And Moley - they are crying out to use the computer for the registration but it both scares them and they worry about who can help at each regional. If there is anything you can do to help them get to grips with the system perhaps someone from each club will volunteer to get it cranked up for next year.
I'm told that anything over 220 riders makes the hand written moto sheets a big task for Tina.
2011 is a go...
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And Moley - they are crying out to use the computer for the registration but it both scares them and they worry about who can help at each regional. If there is anything you can do to help them get to grips with the system perhaps someone from each club will volunteer to get it cranked up for next year.
I took home the software and I couldn't work it out properly.
You need to talk to Roger (or whoever is in charge of it) and set up another Software tutorial session. The last was at Leeds (ages ago) and I couldn't make it. If you set another software tutorial session around Manchester/Preston Area then I think that most clubs could provide a volunteer to be taught the software. I dont mind learning it too as backup to any club if problems arise on race day. If I wasn't racing then I wouldn't mind but I have enough stress trying to find a willing/gullible videographer and I need to practice too.
So sort it out before the summer series.
Do we have a computer and the other electrical gear Printer, generator/spare batteries etc, etc?
With 200+ riders per summer regional then this is the main priority. I dont knock the motosheet ladies. Its a feckin hard job writing all the sheets out by hand and it takes ages. Printed sheets will speed things up and take a lot of the stress out of the volunteers jobs and also provide much needed gate rotation for larger classes. :daumenhoch:
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Nice one - yes more education sessions needed and I'll make sure Jez has these on his pad.
I'll get you involved under the premise of roving backup helper with no firm commitment. Catchy title.
They have all the kit - just need to get it to each race and have clean electric at each venue.
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do you have an example of these motosheets? and how they work (eg enter names and gate position's allocated at random etc)
I know feck all about bmx racing but would like to help if i can
maybe if someone can explain to me what's needed on them I could see if something could be done using a spreadsheet?
might not come to anything but happy to have a look and put something simple together that would avoid special training
I use excel a lot at work but openoffice software can read the files (and is free- my wife even has it on her phone now)
let me know!
cheers
griff
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do you have an example of these motosheets? and how they work (eg enter names and gate position's allocated at random etc)
I know feck all about bmx racing but would like to help if i can
maybe if someone can explain to me what's needed on them I could see if something could be done using a spreadsheet?
might not come to anything but happy to have a look and put something simple together that would avoid special training
I use excel a lot at work but openoffice software can read the files (and is free- my wife even has it on her phone now)
let me know!
cheers
griff
Its already a multi spreadsheet program in excel for doing Motosheets. The trouble is no one has used it before.
Once taught it should be reet!! :daumenhoch:
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do you have an example of these motosheets? and how they work (eg enter names and gate position's allocated at random etc)
I know feck all about bmx racing but would like to help if i can
maybe if someone can explain to me what's needed on them I could see if something could be done using a spreadsheet?
might not come to anything but happy to have a look and put something simple together that would avoid special training
I use excel a lot at work but openoffice software can read the files (and is free- my wife even has it on her phone now)
let me know!
cheers
griff
Its already a multi spreadsheet program in excel for doing Motosheets. The trouble is no one has used it before.
Once taught it should be reet!! :daumenhoch:
cheers moley - just saw the word 'program' and it gave me a mental image of some unfriendly DOS-based thing from the 80s ;D
big part of my job is streamlining reports in excel though so if anyone wants to throw a copy my way I'd be happy to see if I can make it any easier for people to use
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cheers moley - just saw the word 'program' and it gave me a mental image of some unfriendly DOS-based thing from the 80s ;D
big part of my job is streamlining reports in excel though so if anyone wants to throw a copy my way I'd be happy to see if I can make it any easier for people to use
Its a copyrighted program used in a few sports.................so I dont think they'd like it to be tinkered with. :-\
I dont think its particularly hard to use.........it just needs someone to show how the spreadsheets operate and which sheet does what etc, etc
Someone should write a proper program instead of a multiple spreadsheet macro'd doodah!!!
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Its not difficult to use once you know the basics. Christ, if I can use it anyone can!
I learned to use it in a week, before the Scottish Open. It just takes time to input everything.
I would recommend getting as many people as you can to pre-register. Once they are on the rider list it is easier to admin on the day and will get easier as you go through the season. As the most time consuming part is setting up the riders profiles. name, bc licence no, dob, race class, club, etc, etc.
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cheers moley - just saw the word 'program' and it gave me a mental image of some unfriendly DOS-based thing from the 80s ;D
big part of my job is streamlining reports in excel though so if anyone wants to throw a copy my way I'd be happy to see if I can make it any easier for people to use
Its a copyrighted program used in a few sports.................so I dont think they'd like it to be tinkered with. :-\
I dont think its particularly hard to use.........it just needs someone to show how the spreadsheets operate and which sheet does what etc, etc
Someone should write a proper program instead of a multiple spreadsheet macro'd doodah!!!
no probs moley - just thought that (for once) I might actually be in with a shout of helping someone else out after all the advice/help/manlove I've had on here so far!
cheers
griff
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Its not difficult to use once you know the basics. Christ, if I can use it anyone can!
I learned to use it in a week, before the Scottish Open. It just takes time to input everything.
I would recommend getting as many people as you can to pre-register. Once they are on the rider list it is easier to admin on the day and will get easier as you go through the season. As the most time consuming part is setting up the riders profiles. name, bc licence no, dob, race class, club, etc, etc.
Pre reg is the key for sure. And I reckon they will go that way once everyone is on board!
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Pre Reg has saved the sanity of most of the Southern Committee.....(some are beyond saving) but then we get loads of 'clean' eleccy whatever the fook that is!!!
good luck with it all - see you all at Crewe for a mash up....
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With Pre Reg.......................do they still have to sign in on the day to make sure the riders per gate tallies up?
I know a lot of people who say they'll be there (pub, club, cinema, BMX track etc, etc)...........you name it and they'll sign up and promise to be there but the fookers never turn up. If you had 3 or riders go missing then it could affect a 2 gate class with one gate being full and the other half empty. ???
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ian the idea of pre reg is to allow you to input rider info onto the system before the race to save time.
riders still have to come to registration, sign a slip and pay. this then allows you to confirm they are in attendance.
if they pre reg and haven't turned up you just dont select the rider from rider list and then they dont appear on the racers list
what we do is have pre printed slips with there info on. when they come to pay we give them the slip to check and sign. when registration closes any that haven't been checked are binned so there info isn't selcted on the computer.
seem to work ok for us but we are continuing to refine the process as we go. :daumenhoch:
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Ian
in the sarf Martin Baxter has a list of all of the riders that have pre reg'd and just crosses them through as you go up and pay. all else as per Marc's comments.
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