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Title: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 02:58 PM
Seen as I rode a Grifter most of the early part of the 80s thought I would jump in on the recent trend to build a Grifter BMX hybrid - Just for fun!!!

1984 Grifter Frame (acquired today)
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 02:58 PM
integrated kick stand removal complete
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 03:00 PM
Seatpost tube shortened
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 03:10 PM
Parts ordered:

Sprint threaded BMX chrome forks (8 inch long to accommodate the Grifter's almost 6 inch head tube length)
Headset (30mm cup size)
Euro sealed bearing bottom bracket (will require heavy modification)

Some spare parts I've got left over which I'm going to fit:

Skyway wheels
Odyssey 3 piece cranks
DC Nippon (silver rear only)
DC tech 4 (silver right lever)


Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: griff on December 21, 2016, 06:03 PM
Loving this thread already  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 06:51 PM
Started to fabricate a cook bros / TNT custom style seatpost clamp more pictures tomorrow
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Taipan on December 21, 2016, 09:44 PM
This threads gonna be better than watching all the repeated shit films over Christmas,please post a bit each day fella  :daumenhoch: :popcorn:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 09:50 PM
Thanks guys (Griff and Taipan) I wasn't sure about putting this up but pleased I have now
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 21, 2016, 09:55 PM
Question to the Raleigh experts am I correct in assuming serial number starting NN04 means built in Nottingham in October 1984?
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: oldschoolace on December 21, 2016, 10:09 PM
Saw the pillar drill as I opened the thread and immediately hooked! Will be watching this one. Toyed with the idea of doing a racing Gary Morgan grifter rep a few months back  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: NORTY40 on December 21, 2016, 11:43 PM
Looking forward to this   :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 11:21 AM
Seatpost clamp complete
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 11:24 AM
Rear 'mudguard bracket' tidied up
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 11:26 AM
Front 'mudguard bracket' tidied up
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 01:40 PM
This build has come to a stand still as the parts I need to get this across the line before paint haven't arrived

However I was able to do a first 'mock up' of how it looks as a complete bike
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
More pics
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 22, 2016, 01:42 PM
More pics
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: dubber on December 23, 2016, 10:51 AM
Loving this.....that's the grifter I had back in the day... explosion
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on December 23, 2016, 11:21 AM
Loving this.....that's the grifter I had back in the day... explosion
Thanks!

I was going to paint the frame (Kawasaki Green) but its staying original until I can find a set of original prismatic decals and the original colour details
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: rooski on December 24, 2016, 11:57 AM
Excellent! :)
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: BMX1973 on December 24, 2016, 08:04 PM
That's going to be a smart Retro ride  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Taipan on January 01, 2017, 10:54 PM
Any update  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 02, 2017, 03:10 PM
Forks have arrived and I'm returning to work tomorrow which will allow me to complete the bottom bracket - watch this space!
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: factory pilot on January 02, 2017, 04:49 PM
It seems to a bit of a thing doing Grifters right now .. And why not this one and the candy red one on FB both look really cool !
Keep us updated mate.. I'm loving it !   fistblump
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 11:50 AM
Fork update

I believe I took the easiest option (to avoid welding etc) and bought a set of long Sprint threaded forks to fit the long steerer.  Here's a picture of the chrome forks I bought and fitted with ease and only had to remove around an inch of thread
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 11:54 AM
The euro / mtb bottom bracket I ordered pre-Christmas still hasn't showed up and is unlikely to arrive for a few days.  I only need the bearings and dimensions from the set up as I will be making new bb cups to suit the Grifter frame.  This is now seriously holding up completion (and a fresh paint job!)
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 01:13 PM
Parts update as I have mainly mid-school parts lying around Ive fitted;

Selle turbo seat
GT stem
Odyssey power paw grips
Odyssey Pitbull I rear brake and Pitbull lever
Profile imperial chainwheel
Odyssey crankset
DK handlebars

Ive also picked up some free wheels and tyres!
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: rodriguez on January 03, 2017, 01:23 PM
Great project, have often thought about doing one myself, enjoying the updates.

What top tube length does a Grifter have?
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 04:43 PM
Bottom bracket sorted!
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 04:46 PM
We have a rider!
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 04:47 PM
More pics
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 03, 2017, 04:48 PM
and more pics
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Taipan on January 03, 2017, 05:51 PM
Cool!  :daumenhoch:

now just cut/lower and reweld the top rear 2 triangle tubes so they match the top tube for a better riding angle   :) you may need to trim the seatpost down a little aswell to make it more atheseasticly pleasing  ;)
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 04, 2017, 08:40 AM
Great project, have often thought about doing one myself, enjoying the updates.

What top tube length does a Grifter have?

Centre of seat tube to centre of headtube is 19 inch
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 04, 2017, 08:44 AM
Cool!  :daumenhoch:

now just cut/lower and reweld the top rear 2 triangle tubes so they match the top tube for a better riding angle   :) you may need to trim the seatpost down a little aswell to make it more atheseasticly pleasing  ;)

I always appreciate good advice thanks!

In this case I'm going to leave rear as-is but only as (and this is very surprising for me) it actually rides really well.  Seatpost (length and clamp area) is however getting chopped today for sure as it has been bugging me!
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 04, 2017, 02:25 PM
Bottom bracket sorted!

This turned out to be reasonably simple if you have a lathe and some aluminum.

Things to watch out for;

6804 2RS bearing are 20mm ID x 32mm OD x 7mm Wide and you use 2 per side / 4 in total.  There is not an equivalent small bearing with a standard 19mm ID (which would fit inside the Grifter BB) therefore a 20mm centre section spindle tapering to 19mm is required to fit 3-piece cranks (and take up the slack)

The BB shell is very wide (70+mm) therefore a longer 153mm crank spindle is required and the home made bearing cups only have a 3mm 'outer lip' as per the (rubbish) drawing in order to maintain the correct chainline

Due to the Grifter threaded bb I opted for an interference fit on the home made bearing cups this is critical to ensure alignment mine are probably a bit over size and may never come back out of the frame as Ive pressed them in with a hydraulic press
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: rooski on January 26, 2017, 07:31 PM
Excellent work  :daumenhoch:

Top engineering skills, do a bit of this myself  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: deeman on January 30, 2017, 01:42 PM
Have you ridden it yet? be interested to see how it rides!  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Lpodonovan on January 30, 2017, 04:57 PM
Hi guys sorry I've gone quiet on this I've been working away in America for a couple of weeks.

The frameset is ready now for collection at the painters and I will get over to collect it later this week

As soon as its built and test rode I'm going to write up the build and share it with everyone here so that anyone (who desires to do so) can build one for themselves
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: BMX1973 on January 30, 2017, 08:45 PM
Going well  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 06, 2017, 02:16 PM
That's ace!!!
Had a Grifter before my first "real" BMX

Dingo
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: AceFto on February 09, 2017, 05:20 PM
very nice and nice mods
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Midschoolfool on February 13, 2017, 01:39 PM
This is awesome. How heavy is it? we always attributed most of the weight down to the rear hub when I was a kid.
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: carmadham on June 15, 2017, 11:51 AM
i really like this build, did i see the finished bike being ridden in Wickford a couple of days ago?
Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: Phil B on February 26, 2018, 04:53 PM
I love this story - did you ever post pictures of the finished painted bike???? Phil

Title: Re: 1984 Raleigh Grifter BMX build
Post by: enc on June 17, 2018, 06:53 PM
Any pics of the finished bike ?
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