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Title: Please Read
Post by: steverobinson on January 11, 2007, 09:53 AM
Apparantly I have pissed everyone off by trying to sell old school bmx dvds I have had a warning from someone from this site who appears to have re registerd in a different name to send me the PM.

First off all I would like to say sorry to all who has been offended I didn't intend to upset anyone and have never tried to con anyone or decieve anyone. I am an honest guy and never hide who I am I personally think this warning as come from another dvd seller thats why there hiding there true identity and why I haven't been banned from the site. I hope I don't get banned from the site but will stop using this site to post messages but would still like to stay a member because I like to read the messages on here.

This seems to have come about since I offerd a bike in trade for old school footage yes I would have used the footage to sell but at the price I sell them for there's not much profit in it and since I got banned from ebay I have hardly made any money at all in fact there would be more profit in selling the bike. I wasn't only after the footage for profit I wanted it for my own personal use too. I did want to edit my own dvd together with the rest of the footage I have with some new old stuff too.

Its not like I was asking for the footage for free and then selling it back to you guys for £15 I sell them cheap so everyone can have them plus the person would have got a decent project bike out of it too.

Now apparantly the TV companys are after me and if thats the case then I reckon I have been grassed on and would advise anyone else to be carefull with stuff they sell.

I only do this to earn a bit of extra cash for me and my kids I work also but only earn enough to pay my bills and like I said I haven't earnd much money since being banned from ebay I also don't have a penny to scratch my arse with thats why I offerd the bike in trade as it was just sat in my shed doing nothing and I don't have the money to restore it or ride it anymore.

I didn't know where I should put this post and wanted everyone to read it and hopefull accept my appologie but I 'm not going to be bullied.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and sorry to anyone who I may have upset.

Steve Robinson
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: harris on January 11, 2007, 09:58 AM
i must have missed something ,i didnt even no you was selling dvds or a bike  .   ??? 
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: RATTY on January 11, 2007, 10:06 AM
Steve, there are some snotty tow rags on any forum, from where i see it you are doing us a favour, the material you have is not available from the tv companies, and the copies you have supplied have been a valuable guide to restoring our bikes, I'm behind you mate, I'm sure if the admin wasn't happy they would contact you, not a snot rag.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: CD17 on January 11, 2007, 10:08 AM
i must have missed something ,i didnt even no you was selling dvds or a bike  .   ??? 

Me too, what Dvds have you got  ???
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: jimwise68 on January 11, 2007, 10:10 AM
Tough break fella. If I had some I would have swapped ya.

I would have had some off of you to.

Hope all works out ok.

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 11, 2007, 10:13 AM
I'm with you mate, dont see a crime here :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: phantom photon on January 11, 2007, 10:20 AM
I think your doing everyone a great service Steve  :daumenhoch:
Otherwise many of us wouldn't get to see all that old school footage.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: theRuler on January 11, 2007, 10:22 AM
you havent pissed me off steve

iirc your prices are fair

i do a bit of the same myself, selling on copies here and there. i pretty much just make enough to buy a new spindle of dvd's. and then i usually end up sending them out free to people

i have come under fire (lol) in the past for selling some copy that someone else feels they "rightfully own".

all i really wanna do is hook people up with old bmx footage, so they get hyped about bmx, start riding, and maybe ride with me. riding on your own sucks.

so long as you are not breaching any copyright laws then you should continue to sell your wares

careful with the tv companies, but tbh some web nobody (no offence) selling a few dvd's aint exactly worth their bother

Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: steverobinson on January 11, 2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks for that guys I am guessing its just one person.

The dvd's I have are on my website I do have a few bits of other stuff but was saving that to see if I could get anymore to put something together that nobody had seen yet. I would have even liked to have interviewd old schoolers and made a real good dvd like the rolling through the decades skateboard one which is a history of uk skateboard scene but I think that would be too costly for me.

I did use to have a link to my site as my signature but I have removed that as I didn't want to annoy anyone but my site can still be seen by hittin the little world Icon or by clciking my name to see my profile.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: dj_benice on January 11, 2007, 11:39 AM
good prices nice guy  :)
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: electobooty on January 11, 2007, 12:24 PM
Don't see a problem with your actions, and saw the threads you posted.


If someone had the relevant footage they would be getting a great deal.



Who is the problem >:D

Can't see the site top bods having a problem, or have I missed something.

Good luck
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: madall on January 11, 2007, 12:25 PM
Steve
I have bot many dvd's of you and there spot on mate I actually want another full set like I got last time of you for a mate.
I hate Bullies also, you carry on buddy as your DVD's have brought great memories back for me and I for one am delighted with them.

All the Best

AL

Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: DR VINOAH on January 11, 2007, 12:45 PM
crack on steve

and f@ck the jealous back biters i say

as said above your dvd,s are a godsend

as for the tv companies they are gutted coz they never thought of it themselves

and they probs erased there copies eons ago

i saw a similar thing happen in the graffiti scene back in the early 90,s

but a few words in the right earholes sorted it all out :knuppel2:

Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Rombloke on January 11, 2007, 12:58 PM
name and shame the third party ffs

Dave
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: gary4130 on January 11, 2007, 01:11 PM
to me steve you are doing us all a favour with the dvd's ,and at at those prices nobody is getting ripped off, fook them mate !thre should be a big enough pie for all to have a slice !!!  :wtf:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Dark Diggler on January 11, 2007, 01:16 PM
name and shame the third party ffs

Dave

Yeah name em!!
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Donker on January 11, 2007, 01:20 PM
names please.......................
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: MartyC on January 11, 2007, 01:26 PM
At the end of the day the copyright holder has to bring the action, unlikely it will be the TV station as they only braodcast it so it will be a production company of sorts.  If the copyright holder is still in business (and given the age of the broadcasts you'd have to ask) it's unlikely to happen as the sheer cost of bringing an action against you to prove you have proifited from the sales is huge.  The burden of proof is theirs not yours, they have to prove how many you sold and at what profit; proving that would cost the plantiff (that's them) money and lots of it.

FFS, I think the film/movie/tv industry has more to worry about than a guy selling a few copies of 25yo BMX footage copied from video's onto DVD, despite what some "know all" tells you.  Keep on doing it, ensure you only cover your costs and admin and I doubt if anyone would have a claim against you.  I think the movie/tv industry will be very busy looking at the internet and YouTube and it's contents before they come after you Steve  :daumenhoch:.

A name would be useful  :-X
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: theRuler on January 11, 2007, 01:27 PM
there should be a big enough pie

mmm pie
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Flaz on January 11, 2007, 02:32 PM
youve obvisouly stepped on a toe of someone but your prices a wicked  so good on ya

dont be bullied   name and shame    everyone  has a ip address what stays the same no matter who or what you call your self, 

lets see who the bully is ?   :police:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: jimwise68 on January 11, 2007, 03:06 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Flaz on January 11, 2007, 03:14 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.


is it the maid in the lounge with the candlestick
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Mattdub on January 11, 2007, 03:18 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.


PM me who you think it is if you won't post it jim .
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: jimwise68 on January 11, 2007, 03:26 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.


PM me who you think it is if you won't post it jim .

It must be you Matt as you fell for my fiendish plan! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Mattdub on January 11, 2007, 03:28 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.


PM me who you think it is if you won't post it jim .

It must be you Matt as you fell for my fiendish plan! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: jimwise68 on January 11, 2007, 03:31 PM
 :P  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Flaz on January 11, 2007, 03:47 PM
Yeah tell us.

I have an idea who I think it is.


PM me who you think it is if you won't post it jim .

PMSL  :2funny:

It must be you Matt as you fell for my fiendish plan! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Mattdub on January 11, 2007, 03:50 PM
Chop Chop , Name & Shame  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: steverobinson on January 11, 2007, 04:30 PM
Thanks guys there user name is fiddlytrix they registered on the 9th and sent me a couple of warning PMs they have never posted any messages under that name on the forum thats why I think its someone who as re regsitered to hide there identity as it came accross to me as they new this site will and new the people here well too.

I did reply to him or her to try and explain why I was doing it and then thats when there replied telling me the tv companys were onto me.

I think you guys are right about the TV companies probably not wanting to bother me as it would be costly for them and at the end of the day I don't have nothing or own anything of any value for them to take.

There is an email in there profile who it is I wouldn't know who though I probably best not post it here though I don't want to be seen as a trouble causer.

Thanks again

Steve
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Rombloke on January 11, 2007, 04:35 PM
  fiddlytrix       riding with stabilisers    registered 2007-01-09       posts 0

says it all really

Dave
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: dj_benice on January 11, 2007, 04:37 PM
crappy hotmail e:mail addy, stop hiding n stand up for ur reckoning !
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Mattdub on January 11, 2007, 04:48 PM
  fiddlytrix       riding with stabilisers    registered 2007-01-09       posts 0

says it all really

Dave

IP ?
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Rombloke on January 11, 2007, 04:52 PM
yes somebody else does share the same ip

!!!!!

but i would imagine that if its the same person then they will expose themselves

Dave
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: dordymush on January 11, 2007, 05:02 PM
come on dave.
WHO IS ITTTTTTTTTTT.
the suspence is killing us lol.
as for steves dvd's  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: phantom photon on January 11, 2007, 05:03 PM
yes somebody else does share the same ip

!!!!!

but i would imagine that if its the same person then they will expose themselves

Dave

 :LolLolLolLol:

(http://www.maj.com/gallery/bodderick/General/expose.gif)
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Steve Shindig on January 11, 2007, 05:23 PM
Its like an episode of Jonathan Creek.  Loving my 87 Haro Tour dvd by the way Steve.  you rule. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Trev on January 11, 2007, 05:37 PM

Steve,
I bought some dvd's off you about 8 months ago.  Top notch at very reasonable prices. I would have paid a lot more than the prices you were charging.  In fact your dvd's are the main reason i got back into riding. they brought back all the memories from the 80's.  since coming back into the sport i have met so many great people through this site, which i probably wouldn't have looked for if i didn't have an interest in riding again.

so thanks steve for putting all this old footage onto dvd's and don't worry about one person giving you grief. the majority are behind you.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: LXIX on January 11, 2007, 05:38 PM
i think i know who it is  :shocked:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: trill on January 11, 2007, 05:45 PM
yer  f*ck that muppet none of his business.
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: theRuler on January 11, 2007, 05:46 PM
no point naming anyone
will only cause ill feelings
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: steve1275 on January 11, 2007, 05:54 PM
your dvds rock steve, loads of memories.
dont get bummed because there are always assholes ready to stab you in the back, whatever you do.
you are a top dude for doing these dvds. I thought i would never see any of it again.

all the best fella :daumenhoch:

steve
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: steverobinson on January 11, 2007, 06:10 PM
no point naming anyone
will only cause ill feelings

Thats fair enough I think with all the replies things are not as bad as this person made out and I could be wrong but still suspect that its probably someone who does some trading too which is fine by me.

In fact someone bought some off me ages ago on ebay and re sold them and a person on here bought a couple off them and 1 discs didn't work and I actually replaced the dsic for them for free even though I wasn't the one who actually sold them to him, can't remember who that actually was though now.

Thanks again

Steve
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: BLUEMONDAY on January 11, 2007, 06:11 PM
Steve....I bought a couple of your DVD's via e-bay. Excellent quality for the age of the material and good value at a couple of quid each (if I remember rightly??). The fact that you only charge a small amount, proves that you clearly aren't funding terrorism!!!! :)

Whoever gave you this shoite was probably bought an Iron Horse as a child. Mental scars like that never heal!!!  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: CD17 on January 11, 2007, 07:12 PM
Iv just ordered mine  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: Gashead on January 15, 2007, 09:03 AM
Steve - I've got every copy of your DVD's (well the bmx one's !) Your doing a top job mate ! Don't worry about one to$$er that spoils it for the rest of us mate!

Nick
Title: Re: Please Read
Post by: CD17 on January 17, 2007, 09:05 PM
Mine came today & they are well good & what good value for money.

Who ever it was who was giving you grief, is out of order  :(
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