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Title: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 05, 2007, 01:33 PM
Check this advert from Ride magazine, Sept 1998. should have picked myself up a bargain, instead I bought a Hoffman Condor!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/w92/faze3_photo/IMG_3662.jpg)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 05, 2007, 01:46 PM
You and me both! Sometimes you just have to kick yourself eh. even worse I had to sell the Condor a few months later cos our fridge packed up!!

Buy the way just checked out you old school pics, good taste my friend!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: retrorider.u.k on February 05, 2007, 04:48 PM
i had 3 of those.bargain of the century apart from the wheels which were shite(just added tuffs)...thanks shiner and cyclesport  ;)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: poolysheriff on February 05, 2007, 05:19 PM
I got 1 too (white),  :daumenhoch:
Think it was 1999 and the price went down to £199 ,
They were struggling to get rid of them ,
Went to Grantham to pick it up ,

Time machine still needed if anyones got 1 going spare  :LolLolLolLol:

can,t remember what wheels it came with but yeh thay were shite
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: retrorider.u.k on February 05, 2007, 05:24 PM
how long would 50 last now... ? they had a few red/white streatbeats complete too but i missed out on those  :(
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: jT Racing on February 05, 2007, 06:32 PM
and if only i had picked them 6 numbers on staurday. 20/20 heindsight is a twat.
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: gary4130 on February 06, 2007, 09:31 PM
how long would 50 last now... ? they had a few red/white streatbeats complete too but i missed out on those  :(
me too mate,i suppose the search still goes on.( the streetbeats were going for £189 complete ! :tickedoff:)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: JAY on February 06, 2007, 11:30 PM
Yeah the good ole days ,1999, I picked up my 84 sport form there , in the box for £130 , they were £149 , but i knocked them down a bit  ;D .Everything was there except the z rims (rims only). I also bought a white 85 master F+F for £45 ........Just wish i'd bought more , but can't complain..........
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Bob_Acid on February 06, 2007, 11:40 PM
I often wonder what happened to all these bikes? There seemed to be loads of them about at one time. I mean in general, all those bikes people bought up in the early 00's  because they could see what was comming. There's a pile of old skool bikes sitting in peoples sheds that haven't been there for that long.
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 07, 2007, 03:28 PM
Makes me think that we are all going through this mid life nostagia thingy! I'm guessing we all rode bitd and our now all in are
30's.

We've all now got to that stage were we can afford this stuff, and at an age when we can still remember doing it, like we were 15 all over again!

This has made the bikes harder to find and more expensive, but what will happen to the prices in another ten years?

We'll all be in our 40's and what with memory fade, bad backs, fat bellies, etc will the demand drop off?



Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: zed4130 on February 07, 2007, 03:35 PM
i had the chance to buy one of brian fosters old ali shwinns a couple of years ago for £120 but you guesed it i didnt  :'(
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: brass monkey! on February 07, 2007, 03:36 PM
i am sure Shiner still has a load of 80's bikes - held back accumilating value, I was told this 3 years ago......it's apparently true.
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 07, 2007, 03:39 PM
Who's shiner?! Were does he live!! Ha Ha !!

Never mind these 80's bikes the 90's bikes they aren't far behind, man I can't find a Hoffman EP team for love nor money!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Flaz on February 07, 2007, 03:39 PM
Quote
and what with memory fade, bad backs, fat bellies, etc  


I can assure you you dont need to be in your 40's to suffer with all the above mentioned   :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: zed4130 on February 07, 2007, 03:46 PM
I still need to check out hotwheel warehouse its full of 80's bikes going up the stair case  :daumenhoch: and its just down the road from me  :shocked:
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 07, 2007, 03:56 PM
Really! My counsin is the manager of Hotwheels in Bournemouth. They are trade supply only now he was telling me, he didn't mention heaps of old bikes........think it might be time to have words!

Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Moose on February 07, 2007, 04:15 PM
I thought the Haney's bought all of Hotwheel's old stock? Isn't that where they got most of their stuff from?  ???
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: brass monkey! on February 07, 2007, 04:21 PM
Who's shiner?! Were does he live!! Ha Ha !!

Never mind these 80's bikes the 90's bikes they aren't far behind, man I can't find a Hoffman EP team for love nor money!

shiner, major diostributor of SE, Hutch Haro etc......still going, but won't sell....I think Rudewheels and Biagio may have good contacts there, as they seem to pull stock out every now and again.........

there's still heaps out there, I also read that there is a heap of NOS HUTCH Stuff hidden in a container somewhere in the US, private collection of Mr Hutchins himself, anyone got his telephone numbers ;) ;D
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Zippy on February 07, 2007, 04:23 PM
sod his phone number just give us his address  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Bob_Acid on February 08, 2007, 02:12 AM
Shinner has very little left and i think the haneys got what was left of the Hutch stuff too.
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: ORB on February 09, 2007, 12:11 AM
I have a bit of a connection with Shiner and they allways look after me.

I know that they do have a fair bit left, but they have the kind of stuff left that they will sell for themselves.

So rather than looking towards them for NOS Dia Compe, they have NOS Ripper Frame and forks and the like. BUT THEY WILL NOT ADMIT IT!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: retrorider.u.k on February 09, 2007, 08:38 AM
or if you look at it as we should, if you want to build anything nos now, era correct, you will have to have a second mortgage. ;)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 08:53 AM
Look I'm new to this fella's... who is this Shiner bloke?! Some say they have connections, some suggest he's just a myth!!!

But the one question remains, can he be got at? Perhaps if we went in mob handed, oh and bring Mr BIG!!!!

You see I really would like a set of blue MX1000's and I really can't afford to re-morgage!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: brass monkey! on February 09, 2007, 11:59 AM
they exist, be sure of that, now distribute, Sk8, and New School BMX, link below:

http://www.shiner-distribution.co.uk/
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 04:19 PM
Thanks for link, am I missing something. They have 6 SE bikes & thats it!!

Not the huge booty I was expecting!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: retrorider.u.k on February 09, 2007, 04:33 PM
faze 3 your 8 years too late and they never sold to end users anyway back then.trade only.the family has some gems though  ;)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 04:36 PM
Shit!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 04:37 PM
Appologise's for my last post, it was the first word that sprang to mind.
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: TwoBobRob on February 09, 2007, 04:41 PM
When I went to Shiners back in 94, they had oldschool Haros coming out of their ears.... Literally floor to ceiling.... I also heard that a good quantity of the good stuff found its way out of the back door.

It does seem to be on a need to know basis down there - if you can get through the door, there's allsorts to root through. Much more than is advertised.  I suspect its all gone by now though   :(
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 09, 2007, 05:02 PM
In the late 90's Shiners used to send out an old school price list along with the new school list to their dealers, on that list was Loop and non Loop Rippers, OM's,Flovals, 531 and alloy Quads ect, lots of Hutch stuff, Haro race and freestyle bikes, Skyway F&F sets and all the coloured Tuffs too but  of late they have been building two new warehouses and the sale and listing of that stock has stopped for the time being, it will resume once they can do an inventory but the looptail frames are now in very short supply even there own people are not allowed to purchase them
That is the story as far as I know but dont shoot me if I am wrong  :2gunsfiring_v1:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 05:07 PM
So we plan a robbery then?!!! Any one got a balcalva? Second thoughts don't answer that!!!

Seriously though, whats happened to all those bits, have all the RAD members snapped them up then long ago?

The ad I posted right at the top was just the tip of the iceberg then?
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: darkersomeday on February 09, 2007, 05:11 PM
Check this advert from Ride magazine, Sept 1998. should have picked myself up a bargain, instead I bought a Hoffman Condor!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/w92/faze3_photo/IMG_3662.jpg)

i bought two of these from cycles sport in 96 with my student loan!!!

one was still in its original box, un-opened, i sold it in 02 for double what i paid for it,

the other had been built and then stripped back down for some reason, that sold in 2001  for a little less,

i bought a fair few nos old school frames from the grantham shop years ago, all sold on now though,

i've got an old phto of the half built one somewhere!
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Dingobmxer on February 09, 2007, 05:11 PM
Well Andy Kirk and I used to get 3 bike boxes of stuff delivered at a time, DC Mx1000's complete set with levers cables frame guide thingies ect..... £13 plus vat (I think?) it was never gonna last for ever was it  :LolLolLolLol:
 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: TwoBobRob on February 09, 2007, 05:17 PM
That would be right.  Shiner were the distributors for loads of American firms over here but priced themselves out of the game.  So the story goes (urban myth probably)  a lad who went to the Rider Cup at Spitalfields got hold of Hoffman and said summat like 'your bikes are too dear' to which Mat asked how much. The lad told him approx £400. Hoffman said 'thats not bad for a bike surely - about $700?'  to which the lad replied  'no Mat, not for a bike. That price is for frame and fork'.....

It took a while after that, but as soon as was convenient the Hoffman deal went to Seventies.

Haro went to Moore, Large & Co.  I think Wilkerson Airlines stayed with them, as has 2Hip.  I dunno about owt else....

They also deal in Santa Cruz skate and snow stuff - also bloody expensive.  
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: darkersomeday on February 09, 2007, 05:27 PM
heres the half built one, all the bits were with it, redline 400 cranks etc, even the oakley grips and donuts were there!

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/g171/jarvicseven/rips003.jpg)
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: Faze 3 on February 09, 2007, 05:31 PM
Thanks for that pic, now I'm really really regretting that decision. As for you tworobbob. You know way to much man!!! HaHa!

Do you run a bike shop then? If not why not, you're not Vertigo are you?
Title: Re: regrettable decisions
Post by: TwoBobRob on February 09, 2007, 05:38 PM
Well......................................


Hehe... Nah.  I'd like to be a quid behind Vert-Ego   ;D


I was very lucky when I came back riding in 94, I hooked up with a couple of riders who knew everyone so by default I got to meet everyone. So I got my first Condor trade from Shiners  'Hi, this is my mate twobob - do him a deal'  and so it was.

In 99 I opened a small shop within the grounds of Rom skatepark, so I was dealing with Shiner again. Just got to hear a lot of gossip really...

Met a few people along the way when I was ramp building, and of course trying to travel and ride all the time.

The midschool years were very good to me, lots of good memories and the riding was something else. I was very lucky   :4_17_5:
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