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Title: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 14, 2007, 06:09 PM
I keep hearing about the new rules, where are they?
Cheers

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: bmx-796 on September 14, 2007, 06:20 PM
we lost all the info this morning when site done a time travel, will it get it back up asap.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: spillers#1 on September 14, 2007, 08:15 PM
Apparantly no northerners are allowed to enter especially with nick names beginning with D  ::)
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 08:33 PM
Can we please miss off the pre 1990 rule as well and just say no retro's or reissued bikes allowed, otherwise there'll be more than a handful who's bikes would technically be out of the running. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: bmx-796 on September 14, 2007, 08:36 PM
we will see
if not you will have to get  a new bike
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 14, 2007, 08:45 PM
I am not getting ANOTHER new bike, I will get shot, so its this or nothing I am afraid:-

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/aaa026.jpg)

but then again no-one seems to be able to put a year on it anyways  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 08:46 PM
we will see
if not you will have to get  a new bike

The voice of authority.

Interesting, it's been punted before...

http://www.makephpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php'mforum=firebird&t=3712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=coppull&start=0&mforum=firebird (http://www.makephpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php'mforum=firebird&t=3712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=coppull&start=0&mforum=firebird)

 ???
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 08:51 PM
we will see
if not you will have to get  a new bike

I think not.  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: harris on September 14, 2007, 08:54 PM
the goal posts soon moved on that thread 
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: se-bmxer on September 14, 2007, 09:13 PM
I am not getting ANOTHER new bike, I will get shot, so its this or nothing I am afraid:-

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/aaa026.jpg)

but then again no-one seems to be able to put a year on it anyways  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

yeh its no good for OS racing mark its too new, just sell it to me oh and you can keep the lever :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Dingobmxer on September 14, 2007, 09:19 PM
I am not getting ANOTHER new bike, I will get shot, so its this or nothing I am afraid:-

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y79/dingobmxer/aaa026.jpg)

but then again no-one seems to be able to put a year on it anyways  :LolLolLolLol:

 :) DINGO :)

yeh its no good for OS racing mark its too new, just sell it to me oh and you can keep the lever :LolLolLolLol:

ahem pot/kettle???
How old is your Assasin eh Champ  :4_17_5:

 :) DINGO :)
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: bof on September 14, 2007, 09:36 PM
Apparantly no northerners are allowed to enter especially with nick names beginning with D  ::)
My names ok then but my bike might be screwed. ;D maybe , does any body know of an elf register. :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 09:38 PM
The thing is the best old school race bikes are all very, very late 80's to early 90's. There are more and more riders discovering this now after a years racing and are moving onto these bikes.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: bmx-796 on September 14, 2007, 09:39 PM
rules are rules pre 1989 bikes only
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: harris on September 14, 2007, 09:41 PM
you will all need new bikes lads ,and  lucky old you lot i got a few for sale   :D
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: bmx-796 on September 14, 2007, 09:43 PM
zippy you can use one of your  burners
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 09:47 PM
That's eliminating quite a lot of riders Tony. Me Te Harve, FLC, Dialledbikes and Dingo to name a few.

Not a good move if you want the series to grow and become more competitive.

Or are you trying to eliminate the competitve riders?
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: dialledbikes on September 14, 2007, 09:50 PM
Is it pre-1989 (as it says on BMXTALK) or pre-1990 as it said on here before the thread disappeared?

I agree that rules are rules, but the OS Series already had rules which seemed to have been running fine since 2003 when Alan Woods ran the first OS Series.

What about bikes which people can't put a date on (e.g. I have no idea when my Assassin was made, though I know the paintjob was done in 1991 cos it says so on the frame)?  Who decides when they were made?

Is this new rule gonna be the rule that divides the OS and results in splinter groups being formed?  Ironic really that after all these years, politics is still potentially the thing that divides and conquers BMX.  History repeating itself.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 09:54 PM
My view exactly mike. It wasn't broke so why try and fix it.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 09:57 PM
rules are rules pre 1989 bikes only

A bold move made a year to late. You've just ran and promoted a race series for 1" , caliper bikes, which people took part in and invested a lot in money, now those same people can't race because you've changed the rules...

Do you have anything to do with Formula1? ;D
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: spillers#1 on September 14, 2007, 09:59 PM
(answering mikes thread)....Hope not, we've had a good year so far with a brilliant turnout and some good riders new and old hats  :daumenhoch:

Tony and the boys have done a lot more this year than i would have been able to do  :daumenhoch:

But i think allowing very early 90's frame and forks personally will not do any harm as long as no one takes the p1ss
If someone's a quick skillfull rider they'll be the same on 80's 90's 2000 bikes whatever.

85-93 bikes are a lot more enjoyable and easier to maintain.

What do you lot think?
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: harris on September 14, 2007, 10:01 PM
im of to hide under a rock .
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 10:02 PM
Some one post a list of the bikes used in the OSSS...
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 10:06 PM
Robinson Pro XL
Haro Pro XL
SE Assassin
PK Ripper Pro XL
I could go on.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: RATTY on September 14, 2007, 10:07 PM
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,44261.new.html#new
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: RATTY on September 14, 2007, 10:17 PM
I am shocked about all the questions about this, especially about age of bikes, the rules havent changed since the OSSS, we have never excluded a bike because of age, in fact when webdawg broke her OS bike she was allowed to compete on a new school bike. This series is designed for us to have fun, compete in a sport we all love and meet and make friends. This constant questioning will start to spoil the series, if your not happy then contact one of us by PM, but dont keep moaning about it.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: dialledbikes on September 14, 2007, 10:33 PM
Tony, I don't think people are moaning (I'm certainly not), just seeking clarification on where they stand.  If the rules are enforced, then I'll change my frame if I have to.  At the end of the day, I'm just a paying customer and you guys run the series, so I'm not in a position to dictate anything to you.  Just seems to have come out of the blue.

Just checked my Assassin and there's no frame number on it, so I don't even know when it was made anyway.
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 10:45 PM
I am shocked about all the questions about this, especially about age of bikes, the rules havent changed since the OSSS, we have never excluded a bike because of age, in fact when webdawg broke her OS bike she was allowed to compete on a new school bike. This series is designed for us to have fun, compete in a sport we all love and meet and make friends. This constant questioning will start to spoil the series, if your not happy then contact one of us by PM, but dont keep moaning about it.

Are you really shocked?  796 says pre 89...  in my eyes that is a major change.  The people who run OSSS let the riders use Robinsons, Elfs, Auburns and Haros from the 90s. I put ideas forward for oldschool bikes only months ago and the idea was shot down by a number of people, because of costs, now your riders are expected to make another purchase and buy a new frame set, because you have changed you mind... 

Have another think please :-\
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 11:01 PM
Unless we go back to the way it was I'm not riding in the series anymore, because I can't afford to buy another race frame and forks.

Just like to point out though that Sam's bike is a 1989 Robinson Pro frame and therefore now illegal, so I expect he'll be having his bike banned as well, as well as everyone else that ries a Robinson Pro or Pro XL.

Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 11:08 PM
Unless we go back to the way it was I'm not riding in the series anymore, because I can't afford to buy another race frame and forks.

Just like to point out though that Sam's bike is a 1989 Robinson Pro frame and therefore now illegal, so I expect he'll be having his bike banned as well, as well as everyone else that ries a Robinson Pro or Pro XL.



Zippy, don't sweat it mate...  Mike Pardon rode an early 90s GT and Alan rode a 1990 Robo in the Alans Old School Series...  are OSSS saying Alan is wrong?

Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: billstup on September 14, 2007, 11:27 PM
I thought it was always clarified as 1" threaded forks and caliper brakes, I can`t remember an age being put on the bikes.

If you really want it to be old school then you`d have to say pre 85 which is generally recognised as the time line   :-\
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: spillers#1 on September 14, 2007, 11:30 PM
Sod that i feel nostalgic for old early 80's bikes but they are sh1te compared to later bmx's  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: billstup on September 14, 2007, 11:36 PM
Yep, the late 80`s bikes are certainly better with there longer TT and suit us better now that we`re a bit bigger than back in the 80`s  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 11:38 PM
I've got a spare Pro XL id your hankering after one Bill.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: spillers#1 on September 14, 2007, 11:41 PM
I'LL HAVE IT  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: ron burgundy on September 14, 2007, 11:42 PM
Sod that i feel nostalgic for old early 80's bikes but they are sh1te compared to later bmx's  :LolLolLolLol:

You're not wrong mate, but Billy has it nailed...

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I thought it was always clarified as 1" threaded forks and caliper brakes, I can`t remember an age being put on the bikes.

End of ...
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: Rooonga on September 15, 2007, 01:50 PM
I thought I would be missing the beginning of the series due to the wrist op.

Now looks like I'm disqualified for the whole series as my FreeAgent is a 1989.

Tony's you can see why peeps are getting a little anxious here. Recon yous'll have to make a decision. One minute it's about fun and any bike is allowed, then it's pre 1989 only, then pre 1990.

(And does it mean that Sam is DQ'd as well?)

I'm sure it'll be a fantastic series, but lets just get it sorted out. Make the decisions. (Even if they are hard ones.)

IMHO I can see no reason not to to go with Alans OS rules - and I'm certain it isn't anything to do with getting rid of the competition!
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: spillers#1 on September 15, 2007, 02:00 PM
Roonga i think its allsorted now mate  :LolLolLolLol:
Title: Re: OSS rules where are they?
Post by: RATTY on September 15, 2007, 02:19 PM
I thought I would be missing the beginning of the series due to the wrist op.

Now looks like I'm disqualified for the whole series as my FreeAgent is a 1989.

Tony's you can see why peeps are getting a little anxious here. Recon yous'll have to make a decision. One minute it's about fun and any bike is allowed, then it's pre 1989 only, then pre 1990.

(And does it mean that Sam is DQ'd as well?)

I'm sure it'll be a fantastic series, but lets just get it sorted out. Make the decisions. (Even if they are hard ones.)

IMHO I can see no reason not to to go with Alans OS rules - and I'm certain it isn't anything to do with getting rid of the competition!

Ok radsters, Lets kick off the Biggest Old School series ever, This post will be updated as we go, and we are going to have a few suprises thrown in the mix!!

First off, the rules. Bikes must have 1" threaded head tube, caliper brakes (pitbull and center pull allowed) and 20" wheels. No Retro, Anniversary or replicas.

The series fee has gone up to £17.50, payable on first race, for this you will get a series Tee shirt and a series plate. There will also be trophies for the top 20, the most improved rider and race bike of the series. There may also be special end of season race plates like the ones from Alans this summer.
We are also in negotiation with sponsors to see what we can do to make it a bit more special.

There will be two races with double points, two suprise tracks which will only be announced 5 days before the race.

Every round will count in the points, any races cancelled will not be re run. You need to complete 7 rounds to qualify for a series position and trophy.

We will be supplying number plates for all entrants with either your summer series rank or a number of your choice (If available) to use throughout the series.

We are also planning a social evening with disco, buffet etc. This is only in the planning stage and details will be announced in the new year.

Round 1 Hersden October (Date TBA)

Round 2 Dagenham Dave Young Testimonial Race 28.10.2007 (Double points)

Round 3 Braintree Date TBA

Round 4 Dagenham 28.11.2007

Further rounds will be announced as soon as we can.

Dont forget you will need to pay race fees on the day and abide by each tracks rules, ie: some clubs insist on full face helmets.

We are also looking at running a novice points table for anyone who never raced the OSSS07.

Huge thanks to Everyone who raced the OSS07 and to those that race the OSWS07. Also thanks to RADBMX, Alans, Dialled Bikes for their support.

Tony "RATTY" Waye Tony "BMX-796" Riley Sam "Nishiki-14" Wonfor


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