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Old School BMX 1980 - 1988 => Old School Freestyle (frame stands and kickturns galore!) => Topic started by: nee on July 28, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Just wondering if anyones got a particular trick from back in the day that you never managed to nail!?
For me it was the cherry picker.....looked so easy, but never nailed it!! grr!
I could get up there, fully into position, but then would just end up coming back down before i got the chance to balance out and hop.
Gave up after my 345,028th attempt...
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
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rollbacks, just could never be arsed to spend enough time learning them
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not old school but very early mid school, in 92 i saw joe rich do a 540 tyre tap to barspin in, i tried it for awhile and never got it, started trying them again a few weeks ago and have come close to pulling a couple
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
i'm in that club too
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
i'm in that club too
Yup and me, endos, wheelies and jumps where all I could do, and now I cannot even jump..
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Well... for me right now its nopsepicks on a mini ramp. Used to be able to do them, and ive totally lost the knack! i WILL master it again though.
The tricks ive never managed are - any type of barspin, 540 tyretaps and tabletops.
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nope pa
i nailed them all i was good :coolsmiley:
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Cherry Pickers and Decades were always a struggle for me but I've never been a big flat lander if I'm honest. I probably bailed more 540 airs than I pulled and high fakies, I always ended up on my arse if more than the top half of the bike went out of the top of the pipe. How the fook Dominguez used to do them as high as he did is beyond me!
See picture below - need I say more! :shocked:
Daz.
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/j46/Flatcap1968/MDFAKIE.jpg)
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
i'm in that club too
Yup and me, endos, wheelies and jumps where all I could do, and now I cannot even jump..
Yep! I'll join that club too!!
Never did skateparks and proper ramps BITD just dirt jumps and homemade ramps out of any old wood lying around.
Could do all the basics and used to be a good jumper but now if I get air I panic and my balance is way off.
Not rode since '85-'86. Only started riding on the roads last summer and only started back on a BMX in April.
Apart from racing OS and a few practice sessions at the track and the 9 weeks layoff with a dodgy foot, thats about it!!!
I need more practice. My brain thinks it can still do stuff but my body flatly refuses to even attempt it!!!
And if it does attempt it, half way through it screws me over and leaves in a mess on the floor!!!
I need to sort my balance out!!
I can barely stand up straight let alone trackstand!!! :(
Do you think anyone will laugh at me if I use stabilisers?
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My mate could do a most stylish no brakes rockwalk super smooth and well fast. It looked the dogs b0llocks :daumenhoch:
I could only do it using me brakes :-\ im still not sure who was doing it the right way :)
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
i'm in that club too
Yup and me, endos, wheelies and jumps where all I could do, and now I cannot even jump..
Yep! I'll join that club too!!
Never did skateparks and proper ramps BITD just dirt jumps and homemade ramps out of any old wood lying around.
Could do all the basics and used to be a good jumper but now if I get air I panic and my balance is way off.
Not rode since '85-'86. Only started riding on the roads last summer and only started back on a BMX in April.
Apart from racing OS and a few practice sessions at the track and the 9 weeks layoff with a dodgy foot, thats about it!!!
I need more practice. My brain thinks it can still do stuff but my body flatly refuses to even attempt it!!!
And if it does attempt it, half way through it screws me over and leaves in a mess on the floor!!!
I need to sort my balance out!!
I can barely stand up straight let alone trackstand!!! :(
Do you think anyone will laugh at me if I use stabilisers?
My excuse was that I never even saw a skatepark or a vert ramp, my old man was always working weekends so I had no-one to transport me to these things. We had a little bmx track in town where I perfected my jumps. ..
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My mate could do a most stylish no brakes rockwalk super smooth and well fast. It looked the dogs b0llocks :daumenhoch:
I could only do it using me brakes :-\ im still not sure who was doing it the right way :)
did you have any mates mart? :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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I kinda got left behind when flatland started being about rolling and not hopping about. :buck2:
Could do ankle-busters and the odd long backwards wheelie and that but all these fire hydrants and rolling frame whips (as we called them) were beyond me. That and fooking bar rides. Could never get over the mental block of taking me hands off and standing up. Always had an all too vivid picture in me head of the bike collapsing under me and me getting to know my Skyway pegs in the biblical sense... :D
Oh aye, my airs were cack too. :LolLolLolLol:
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My mate could do a most stylish no brakes rockwalk super smooth and well fast. It looked the dogs b0llocks :daumenhoch:
I could only do it using me brakes :-\ im still not sure who was doing it the right way :)
did you have any mates mart? :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
I thought you were my mate :-[ :LolLolLolLol:
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I kinda got left behind when flatland started being about rolling and not hopping about. :buck2:
Could do ankle-busters and the odd long backwards wheelie and that but all these fire hydrants and rolling frame whips (as we called them) were beyond me. That and fooking bar rides. Could never get over the mental block of taking me hands off and standing up. Always had an all too vivid picture in me head of the bike collapsing under me and me getting to know my Skyway pegs in the biblical sense... :D
Oh aye, my airs were cack too. :LolLolLolLol:
Was going to ask - how old school? - then you gave me the answer - never sussed bar rides either! Still to this day one of the most impressive looking tricks you can do on a bike without leaving the ground!
G
P.S. I was gonna say Vander Rolls, but I never liked 'em, so I never learned 'em, so it doesn't count! :LolLolLolLol:
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LOL, Vander-Rolls have to be a contender for worst trick ever. My mate used to do 'em and I couldn't help but look on with scorn. :LolLolLolLol:
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surely the "gumby" was worse
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There are loads of tricks I never really tried, or only tried a few times and didnt get. One of the older tricks I have tried over and over is front wheel squeakers. A backwards nose wheelie where you are scuffing the front wheel. Ive tried sittin on the seat using both feet, or one foot on the peg and one foot scuffing. I never manage more than about 4 scuffs.
As far as newer (90s) tricks, Ive tried loads and loads of icepick grind, to stall, to fakey. Like Joe Rich did in his first Standard section. NEVER got ONE! I have also tried many many tailwhip nose pics (with a front brake!), and only ever made 1 ..... in about 94!
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There are loads of tricks I never really tried, or only tried a few times and didnt get. One of the older tricks I have tried over and over is front wheel squeakers. A backwards nose wheelie where you are scuffing the front wheel. Ive tried sittin on the seat using both feet, or one foot on the peg and one foot scuffing. I never manage more than about 4 scuffs.
As far as newer (90s) tricks, Ive tried loads and loads of icepick grind, to stall, to fakey. Like Joe Rich did in his first Standard section. NEVER got ONE! I have also tried many many tailwhip nose pics (with a front brake!), and only ever made 1 ..... in about 94!
I'm with you there, but I'm determined to learn them this year....!
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all of them :LolLolLolLol:
i just rolled about trying to look cool.
unsuccessfully i might add :D
i'm in that club too
yup... and add me to the rollback list. still can't do them.. i can do it forwards tho :LolLolLolLol:
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g turn`s for me as love agu bubu who used to do them at southbank , try them but could never master them
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Deffo the same with nose pick tail whips, i have pulled a couple of messy ones but i have a problem getting back into the transition as my cranks are not level.
bitd bar rides i never got even though i had the additional brake lever mounted on my bars.
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makes me laff reading about all the tricks you guys couldn't do :P I've never heard of half of um, so much progression happened after I stopped riding in 85 :shocked:
One trick that I spent hours trying and never managed was the VANDER ROLL :D it looked so easy to :P
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Well... for me right now its nopsepicks on a mini ramp. Used to be able to do them, and ive totally lost the knack! i WILL master it again though.
Woooooo!!!
I have just got mine back tonight!!
I used to be able to Canadian everything....but totally lost my bottle...
BUT..tonight the skatepark was empty and after about 30 attempts i got them back!!!
So bloody happy right now!!!
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Well done my son!
I'm off down to Kelvingrove shortly to try a few things myself....
Pic's later!
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Just wondering if anyones got a particular trick from back in the day that you never managed to nail!?
For me it was the cherry picker.....looked so easy, but never nailed it!! grr!
I could get up there, fully into position, but then would just end up coming back down before i got the chance to balance out and hop.
Gave up after my 345,028th attempt...
HAHA I read this title and skipped it first time as I thought nobody would say cherry picker as it was easy. OOOPPPS.
I could do the flatland stuff pretty easy but I could never get any air on an aerial. Could just get my front wheel off the top a little but then my bottle went. I think maybe I did 1 or 2 aerials. Did not help that one time as I was rotating around at the top mid air my brand new crank fell out so my feel were on nothing and I crashed and burned at the bottom. Oh, drop ins also from the top of the half pipe. Never had the bottle to do that.
Cherry Pickers though, easy. No handed aswelll and the side to side wiggle to just show off :):)
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I could never roll back...
which means i could never pull fakes too.... still can't!! ;D
other stuff i still havn't managed to get....
Candybar's...
lookback's...
decade's... in fact, most flatland tricks... ( so hard to dial flat )
also... peg grinds'!!! ( cant keep me pedal's level?? )
And the BIG one for me.... TAILWHIPS!!!
been trying whip's since 1989............ ???
landed like... 5 sketchy one's up a roll in......
( I hate whips!! ) ;D
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Whats the trick called where you jump of your pedals, still holding onto the handlebars spin around 360 with the handlebars and land back on the pedals??
Also, whats the name of the trick where you turn the handlebars 90 degrees, roll the bike forward so the end of the handlebars touch the ground. One hand is holding onto the other end of the handlbar and your bum is sitting over the back wheel which is up in the end.
Tail Whips I take it are when you lodge one of your feet behind the forks and whip the bike around 360 and then land back on the bike/pedals?
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Whats the trick called where you jump of your pedals, still holding onto the handlebars spin around 360 with the handlebars and land back on the pedals??
Sounds like a Boomerang??
couldn't do them either!!
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Whats the trick called where you jump of your pedals, still holding onto the handlebars spin around 360 with the handlebars and land back on the pedals??
Sounds like a Boomerang??
could'nt do them either!!
Yeah Boomerang rings a bell. Thank you.
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Also, whats the name of the trick where you turn the handlebars 90 degrees, roll the bike forward so the end of the handlebars touch the ground. One hand is holding onto the other end of the handlbar and your bum is sitting over the back wheel which is up in the end.
Miami Hopper :)
Managed to finally nail them mid nineties! Getting into them is actually pretty easy, but coming back out it's all about the timing...cos if you are still holding the seat when the back wheel touches down you kinda fall off the back of the bike and look a twat :2funny:
Alex mentioned Switzerland Squeakers earlier in the thread. I fully had them dialled when i was about 10 and it's one of those tricks i never seemed to lose. Can still do them with or without front brake, although with is obviously a lot easier.
Another one i can't get is rolling forwards on front wheel with both feet on pedals (can't remember name of that one...might just be nose wheelie or something?)
I always put too much / not enough pressure on front brake. Bloody annoying..
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Also, whats the name of the trick where you turn the handlebars 90 degrees, roll the bike forward so the end of the handlebars touch the ground. One hand is holding onto the other end of the handlbar and your bum is sitting over the back wheel which is up in the end.
Miami Hopper :)
Managed to finally nail them mid nineties! Getting into them is actually pretty easy, but coming back out it's all about the timing...cos if you are still holding the seat when the back wheel touches down you kinda fall off the back of the bike and look a twat :2funny:
Alex mentioned Switzerland Squeakers earlier in the thread. I fully had them dialled when i was about 10 and it's one of those tricks i never seemed to lose. Can still do them with or without front brake, although with is obviously a lot easier.
Another one i can't get is rolling forwards on front wheel with both feet on pedals (can't remember name of that one...might just be nose wheelie or something?)
I always put too much / not enough pressure on front brake. Bloody annoying..
Excellent, Miami Hopper. Thank you. I know what you mean about getting caught on the seat as you come back up :LolLolLolLol:
Whats a Switzerland Squeaker? Nose wheelie was after my time so never tried but it sounds hard :)
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Squeaker is this />
Although i do mine with both feet...like 1 after the other...walking on the tyre.
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front yards & funky chickens......
almost had them... found them so hard!!
i might start learning a bit of flatland again??
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Could never nail an "applecrate" think I was just a bit too short.....and as for bar rides???........well if I'd nailed a bar-hop I might have made that progression.
Tried to go from surfer to bar-ride once........one word: MESSY! :)
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X up airs!
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540 airs, could never get enough twist, gonna try an get em nailed before my 40th in Nov :daumenhoch:
Stumpy
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could never do decades, only managed 1 or 2 boomerangs :-\
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So much I wanna learn before I head out to England next year. I need to learn tailwhip airs, barspins, and backflips first. then move on from there. :crazy2:
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So much I wanna learn before I head out to England next year. I need to learn tailwhip airs, barspins, and backflips first. then move on from there. :crazy2:
Mmmm........same here! :LolLolLolLol:
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pedalpickers... never learnt em bitd. brakes so much better than then so may try and learn em soon.
did pull a few applecrates bitd until the cable hanger for my spinmaster snapped mid applecrate (filed out loads to fit twin toptube on my master) and i went backwards over the bars in a weird tangled heap and cracked my head on the ramp room floor. may have been one of my last ones- maybe i should try relearn em.
ended up doin my own version then (1987)- the travelling man- an applecrate but with both wheels on the floor and jump into as many boomerangs as poss out. my best was 5 boomerangs out of it.
(did pull it with 4 boomerangs out at a merthyr ukbfa open bitd.)
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only ever did pedal pickers with a coaster, sod that with a freewheel
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oh yer flatland freestyle was my bag..
could lick most of the old skool tricks mentioned here.. and link them..
But what was the name of the trick where you laid the bike down side on..so the bike would slide along on the end of the pedal.
once stopped you turned the bars put your foot on the back wheel and would pump the bike round in circles...and get real dizy..
kinda like a fiola move..
best tricks for me fast no brake rock walks.. bommerangs..decades..360 endo's into miami hopper's.. trick ramp tricks wilton's etc.
I also remember learning to cherry pick in my folks tiny garden , wedging my self in a corner.. slowly incresing the number of hops.
Ah very happy days
Dave
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only ever did pedal pickers with a coaster, sod that with a freewheel
They weren't that hard with a freewheel!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha07.jpg)
Unless you tried them off a quarterpipe - then they hurt...! :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha153.jpg)
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Rolling on one wheel, front or back. Seriously, if I could scuff I could just about manage. But rolling? Useless.
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[They weren't that hard with a freewheel!
Unless you tried them off a quarterpipe - then they hurt...!]
I agree bmxer4ever (apart from the quarterpipe bit of course). Originally BITD I ran a coaster, and for a good while I ran only a coaster + a pots mod front (no rear brake).
Probably for this reason, I found that pedalpickers felt natural using a coaster and couldn't have imagined doing them without....
However........ I changed my mind after I ended up wrecking my rear tuff/coaster......and was forced to revert to a freewheel and rear brake I had spare. Before long though, I was pedalpicking happily again without any problems. It was just a case of getting over the idea of the coaster not being there (and having a very strong brake).
After looking through the comments in this thread, what really stands out is that quite a lot of what we might consider to be "simple" moves ended up becoming our nemesis! For example Denny mentioned being able to pull his own version of applecrates and even link them into multiple boomerangs!! So why did he struggle with pedalpickers?? Why couldn't I barhop?? (Answers on a postcard please ;D).
Anyway this goes to show what a weird, wonderful and occasionally frustrating sport this can be.....so on that note I've decided....... I'm definitely gonna get myself a bike again and learn to barhop :LolLolLolLol:)
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barhops. now theres a scary trick
long legs and an understanding of what would happen if you failed to clear the bars kept me well away from them
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whiplashes they where a killer ! :2gunsfiring_v1:
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Generally for me it was trying to ride vert when running a coaster brake, the amount of times I must have landed on my ass / back doing fakies or gone over the bars when coming in from an air was stupid! Ran One of those acs freecoaster things after a while as I loved a coaster for flat.
Bar rides, forwards or back, couldn't get my head round it.
Backwards pedal pickers, just found them impossible.
Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
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Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
That's one i only nailed in recent years funny enough.
Im not sure if this is the 'proper' way to do them, but i grab the seat before putting the front brake on....that way when you put the front brake on you kinda pull the back wheel up with your seat hand.
So you roll along grabbing the seat, put the front brake on at the same time as turning the bars and pull up with your seat arm.
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Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
That's one i only nailed in recent years funny enough.
Im not sure if this is the 'proper' way to do them, but i grab the seat before putting the front brake on....that way when you put the front brake on you kinda pull the back wheel up with your seat hand.
So you roll along grabbing the seat, put the front brake on at the same time as turning the bars and pull up with your seat arm.
That's the way most of us have always done them..! :LolLolLolLol:
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Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
That's one i only nailed in recent years funny enough.
Im not sure if this is the 'proper' way to do them, but i grab the seat before putting the front brake on....that way when you put the front brake on you kinda pull the back wheel up with your seat hand.
So you roll along grabbing the seat, put the front brake on at the same time as turning the bars and pull up with your seat arm.
That's the way most of us have always done them..! :LolLolLolLol:
Ah fair play!
I've seen them done doing an endo and crossing the bars before grabbing the seat......... so i wasn't sure if grabbing the seat beforehand was considered cheating! lol
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Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
That's one i only nailed in recent years funny enough.
Im not sure if this is the 'proper' way to do them, but i grab the seat before putting the front brake on....that way when you put the front brake on you kinda pull the back wheel up with your seat hand.
So you roll along grabbing the seat, put the front brake on at the same time as turning the bars and pull up with your seat arm.
That's the way most of us have always done them..! :LolLolLolLol:
sounds like a hard way to me
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Miami hoppers, could get up on the bike and balance, and pull out of them, never rode into a single One.
That's one i only nailed in recent years funny enough.
Im not sure if this is the 'proper' way to do them, but i grab the seat before putting the front brake on....that way when you put the front brake on you kinda pull the back wheel up with your seat hand.
So you roll along grabbing the seat, put the front brake on at the same time as turning the bars and pull up with your seat arm.
That's the way most of us have always done them..! :LolLolLolLol:
sounds like a hard way to me
Either way is valid - as long as you ride in and out of it, it doesn't really matter! Talkin' of hoppers, I've actually been havin' trouble with the buggers lately! Must practice them more...
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only ever did pedal pickers with a coaster, sod that with a freewheel
They weren't that hard with a freewheel!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha07.jpg)
Unless you tried them off a quarterpipe - then they hurt...! :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha153.jpg)
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So rad. Gary, weren't you a Masterclass rider? I can't remember. Some MC riders were better than the pros. I loved watching both. It was like 2 pro classes! MAN I miss the old comps :'(
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only ever did pedal pickers with a coaster, sod that with a freewheel
They weren't that hard with a freewheel!
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha07.jpg)
Unless you tried them off a quarterpipe - then they hurt...! :LolLolLolLol:
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/k48/2ndChildhood/Gotcha%20Bmx%201988/Gotcha153.jpg)
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So rad. Gary, weren't you a Masterclass rider? I can't remember. Some MC riders were better than the pros. I loved watching both. It was like 2 pro classes! MAN I miss the old comps :'(
Cheers Greg - I never made it out of the quarterpipe ones! Not a good trick to crash on - it's kinda all or nothing!
I was Masterclass in 1986, ended up 5th overall that year and qualified for Pro, took 3rd at Holeshot flat behind Pepi and McCoy. Took the Pro flat title and the Worlds in '87.
Then it all went pear shaped..... :LolLolLolLol:
Never stopped riding although I've had my quiet spells...!
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Never did pedal pickers but towards the end, I could fly out into a cherrypicker and drop back in with usually less than 2 hops. Almost had them dialed as CP taps. Learned them on the Terrel ramp. Last ramp I ever rode. I'm an idiot for choosing the fast lane over riding. UGH!1!11!
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Never did pedal pickers but towards the end, I could fly out into a cherrypicker and drop back in with usually less than 2 hops. Almost had them dialed as CP taps. Learned them on the Terrel ramp. Last ramp I ever rode. I'm an idiot for choosing the fast lane over riding. UGH!1!11!
WHAT? You pop out and LAND in a cherrypicker???? EH?
That's never been done! (Well, not to my limited knowledge!!)
You GOTTA get back on the bike dude!
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never heard of anyone doing the cp tyretap either from a flyout. :wtf:
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Considering what's been done, it's not really that big a deal :LolLolLolLol:
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mix it new skool- cp tyretap to footjam tailwhip nosepick. :LolLolLolLol:
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Considering what's been done, it's not really that big a deal :LolLolLolLol:
Wait a minute - we're talkin' about poppin' out, and LANDING in a cherrypicker?
NO-ONE has ever done that.
That IS a big deal, never mind 'what's been done'!
New move dude!
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I never rode out of a cherry picker drop-in on the 1/4. Had to settle for doing them on the mini ramp.
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I was talking to Zac Shaw earlier and he knew all about this cherry picker tap.He rode with Greg and seen him do it.Thats some crazy trick!!
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I could do 540 kickturns all day long but couldn't get any further until 25 years later- i'm rather proud at the mo so please have a watch :D http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jVYkWhRwVEM JJ