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BMX General => BMX Chat => Topic started by: SDF on January 27, 2021, 08:19 PM
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Any one else spotted Andy Ruffells eBay stuff , got Neils Rf1 Vincent seat post up for bids as well.
Adding all these to my watch list.
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Going to be insane "wantit"
looking at items and bids so far explosion
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Genuine BMX history up for grabs, for everyone.
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So is the seller actually the man himself? There's some nice parts for sure but if it's genuinely him, I wonder what else he has and what else he's going to move on?? :coolsmiley:
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I believe Andy has handed his old stuff to dave Hall to manage the selling
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So is the seller actually the man himself? There's some nice parts for sure but if it's genuinely him, I wonder what else he has and what else he's going to move on?? :coolsmiley:
Like a couple of RF-1's??!!!! :D
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So is the seller actually the man himself? There's some nice parts for sure but if it's genuinely him, I wonder what else he has and what else he's going to move on?? :coolsmiley:
And, how is anything verified. I appreciate I may be scorned on for my opinion, and that's fair enough. Maybe I'm even 'not in the know', not frequenting other platforms such as social media etc.
But, an antique, etc. or memorabilia from famous sports people etc. is just 'old stuff' with little value without a letter of authenticity or other applicable documentation. Yet, here we are having to trust an ebayer, with zero feedback, who opened an account 24hours ago, who goes "Hello world, bang, look at all this high end, priceless stuff'. No evidence, of authenticity, no pictures other than one or two stock magazine shots, but trust me it's legit.
As I say, I'm not overly concerned either way, I mean no offence to the seller, or the Ruffell family if legit. If it has no bearing on the value why mention it. But if it does (or the seller/s) expect it to have some bearing on the final sale value then be decent enough to offer some extra evidence than a new account, no feedback, no proof, etc.
Good luck to all who get carried away in the ensuing frenzy. Will certainly be an interesting watch.
Now, if this seller wants to put up an RF1 I will enter the party, irrespective of whether Neil or Bernie's bin man rode it.
Peace & love :rant: :bow:
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Any one else spotted Andy Ruffells eBay stuff , got Neils Rf1 Vincent seat post up for bids as well.
Adding all these to my watch list.
And the question on the tip of everyone's tongue is where is the RF-1 that goes with it??!! :daumenhoch:
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Any one else spotted Andy Ruffells eBay stuff , got Neils Rf1 Vincent seat post up for bids as well.
Adding all these to my watch list.
And the question on the tip of everyone's tongue is where is the RF-1 that goes with it??!! :daumenhoch:
Yes , I was thinking that, and maybe any Neils orange beat parts.
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Andy himself posted up a little while ago that he was going to be selling off a lot of his old parts etc...
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Initial photographs show tubs of tat like we all stashed in the garage. Ok some stuff will be good but come on, who cares who owned it!
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I get your point....but
who cares who owned it!
the 160 folk watching the forks???
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Voyeurs
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I would love the Vincent seat post that was on Neils Rf 1. It would be perfect on my Vincent , plus Neil was my favourite freestyler.
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Voyeurs
Yep, fair point, I'm one of them myself!
It would be some 'tribute build' if you had the geezers' actual forks though! Only thinking after seeing the badass HLT tribute going on over in T&R....
The forks are the only thing that has grabbed my attention as I think Picklez makes some very valid points on 'provenance'.......
I think the forks are legit......discuss!
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Are we about to see Flights and Beartraps???
explosion
Does anyone know what the stash is?
Rather exciting as it goes...... fistblump
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From the pics of buckets full of shrapnel on facebook i'm fearing it's going to be a bit of an anti-climax ::)
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From Andy Facebook page
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I guess its a bit of Bmx history and Andy was one of the good guys but i'll be interested to see if any of the good stuff appears? ??? but there's no doubt it will be bid up by many people to far more than its worth? the forks are already too much lol ::) I got sent a photo of the tubs of parts that were posted on FB but couldn't see any 'os Gold' in them? glwts tho :daumenhoch:
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Someone needs to ask him to do a re issue RF-1!!
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Someone needs to ask him to do a re issue RF-1!!
Neil's RF forks are now listed, frame next maybe?
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Someone needs to ask him to do a re issue RF-1!!
Neil's RF forks are now listed, frame next maybe?
Surely??!!
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If that's the case it's a bit sh1tty in my humble opinion. "Here's the forks, spend a stuff load on these, on the chance I might sell the frame, I'm not saying whether I've actually got, and you might not even win if/when I list it". All because I'm Andy Ruffell.
I don't personally think highly of people splitting F&F's in general, but that's just my own personal opinion. As said before, their stuff, their prerogative, but not a great approach for a collectors community. Only reason it's done is for money, fair enough.
But, Ruffell had a good run/life with BMX when we were all kids, with many of us idolising him and his brother. If he cared about his heritage and the community that adored him and his brother for years he could still get a ton of money by being a little more respectful.
If you've got Neil's RF1 either, list F&F separately but at the same time, or be decent and list it as one item, and let one of your brother's legendary bikes have a greater chance of living on and being admired, as it deserves.
I'd be a serious bidder for it, may not be lucky enough to win it (if it came up), but I'm really in two minds whether to bother even trying for the forks on the hope the frame might come up.
I have worked damn hard for my money all my adult life, like the vast majority of us, but I also try to use it wisely. And I'm damned if I'll just give it to some greedy so and so on a chance or whim.
Don't care who he is, any remaining respect I had for the guy is definitely waning. Where's Tim when you need a bit of controversy :-X.
Anyway, rant over, I'm sure I'm going to have to weather a battering for airing my annoyance, but hey hoy, the forum needs a little more energy so may be worth it :LolLolLolLol:. It's only a hobby :daumenhoch:.
One final thing that's been bugging me (more a question to myself than anything else). The Renthal bars, love em, never even seen ano blue ones before, but the Robinson decal? Don't imagine any of his sponsors would have been too impressed with that BITD? Or have the intervening years erased some of my earlier year's memories from an outfit he rode for?
OK, I'll shut up and go back to lurking. Peace.
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Has anyone actually seen the Holeshot frame, to know if it could potentially be up for sale? I vaguely remember seeing some pics of Andy's of tubs of bike bits, but don't recall any frames other than the ones he owned himself.
There's no evidence to suggest that this frame still exists. Neil could have binned it leaving just the forks behind.
I'm not sure Andy or Dave would be the type of blokes to split them up and let's face it, it's pointless having one if you don't have the other imho.
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Has anyone actually seen the Holeshot frame, to know if it could potentially be up for sale? I vaguely remember seeing some pics of Andy's of tubs of bike bits, but don't recall any frames other than the ones he owned himself.
There's no evidence to suggest that this frame still exists. Neil could have binned it leaving just the forks behind.
I'm not sure Andy or Dave would be the type of blokes to split them up and let's face it, it's pointless having one if you don't have the other imho.
So why don't somebody ask him on the Rad Faceache site then? then people will know :daumenhoch:
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Has anyone actually seen the Holeshot frame, to know if it could potentially be up for sale? I vaguely remember seeing some pics of Andy's of tubs of bike bits, but don't recall any frames other than the ones he owned himself.
There's no evidence to suggest that this frame still exists. Neil could have binned it leaving just the forks behind.
I'm not sure Andy or Dave would be the type of blokes to split them up and let's face it, it's pointless having one if you don't have the other imho.
So why don't somebody ask him on the Rad Faceache site then? then people will know :daumenhoch:
If you're really that bothered, why don't you ask him yourself?
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I guess the frame went in the skip, probably cracked in a few places.
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I guess the frame went in the skip, probably cracked in a few places.
Nobody on this forum would have won it anyway, it would have ended up in Essex, for sure.
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I guess the frame went in the skip, probably cracked in a few places.
Nobody on this forum would have won it anyway, it would have ended up in Essex, for sure.
Haaah!! yes the prices are getting out my league now. Glad I'm not doing any builds as its turning into a rich mans hobby.
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Has anyone actually seen the Holeshot frame, to know if it could potentially be up for sale? I vaguely remember seeing some pics of Andy's of tubs of bike bits, but don't recall any frames other than the ones he owned himself.
There's no evidence to suggest that this frame still exists. Neil could have binned it leaving just the forks behind.
I'm not sure Andy or Dave would be the type of blokes to split them up and let's face it, it's pointless having one if you don't have the other imho.
I'm not bothered one jot! :D
So why don't somebody ask him on the Rad Faceache site then? then people will know :daumenhoch:
If you're really that bothered, why don't you ask him yourself?
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There is no frame.
It has been asked.
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291 squids and bidding on the forks!! wtf?? :idiot2:
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291 squids and bidding on the forks!! wtf?? :idiot2:
Back down to ?150 now Damo, that's very strange.
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yeah, 2 bids retracted, one of 450!
bit odd...
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yeah, 2 bids retracted, one of 450!
bit odd...
At a guess, I?d probably say that legit bids were submitted by people that wanted to secure the forks thinking that the frame would be along soon and since it has transpired that there is no frame, retracted their bids.
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yeah, 2 bids retracted, one of 450!
bit odd...
At a guess, I?d probably say that legit bids were submitted by people that wanted to secure the forks thinking that the frame would be along soon and since it has transpired that there is no frame, retracted their bids.
Yep good point, I miss a bit not being on F/B I guess...I can live with that...
The ARX forks just went for 360
Fair play but I could find a lot better things to spend 360 quid on
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Fair play but I could find a lot better things to spend 360 quid on
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I'd rather the OG Landing Gears that went for 410 yesterday, but I still wouldn't pay that!
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Fair play but I could find a lot better things to spend 360 quid on
I'd rather the OG Landing Gears that went for 410 yesterday, but I still wouldn't pay that!
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It's a lot of money to spend on anything that's not essential, especially something that in a matter of time will be pretty worthless. Let's be honest, OSBMX could be classed as a niche hobby, and Andy/Neil's parts are only worth anything to us and by us, I mean our generation that remember them from the golden era of BMX Beat and Kellogg's etc. Even the truest of collectors that are slinging cash at these parts must have an area in their brains that is telling them that when their kids find them in a box in the garage in years to come, they will basically just have scrap value.
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Fair play but I could find a lot better things to spend 360 quid on
I'd rather the OG Landing Gears that went for 410 yesterday, but I still wouldn't pay that!
It's a lot of money to spend on anything that's not essential, especially something that in a matter of time will be pretty worthless. Let's be honest, OSBMX could be classed as a niche hobby, and Andy/Neil's parts are only worth anything to us and by us, I mean our generation that remember them from the golden era of BMX Beat and Kellogg's etc. Even the truest of collectors that are slinging cash at these parts must have an area in their brains that is telling them that when their kids find them in a box in the garage in years to come, they will basically just have scrap value.
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well put...
try explaining this to ANYONE!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Andy-Ruffells-Old-Yellow-Haro-Flo-Plate-BMX-HISTORY-memorabilia/284170011793?hash=item4229da4491:g:NCsAAOSwmZhgGTig
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Fair play but I could find a lot better things to spend 360 quid on
I'd rather the OG Landing Gears that went for 410 yesterday, but I still wouldn't pay that!
It's a lot of money to spend on anything that's not essential, especially something that in a matter of time will be pretty worthless. Let's be honest, OSBMX could be classed as a niche hobby, and Andy/Neil's parts are only worth anything to us and by us, I mean our generation that remember them from the golden era of BMX Beat and Kellogg's etc. Even the truest of collectors that are slinging cash at these parts must have an area in their brains that is telling them that when their kids find them in a box in the garage in years to come, they will basically just have scrap value.
well put...
try explaining this to ANYONE!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Andy-Ruffells-Old-Yellow-Haro-Flo-Plate-BMX-HISTORY-memorabilia/284170011793?hash=item4229da4491:g:NCsAAOSwmZhgGTig
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A nice bit of history, as is all of his stuff, but only for the serious collector in my opinion.
From Andy's perspective, it's nicer to give something back to his fans and I guess the cash will be nice for him, better than sitting in his folks? loft I guess.
The plate though, already doing well, but not worth what it's already stood at, not without the decals.
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Listed an 87/88 Robinson frame and forks which is also over what its worth already,nice frame sets but not the year Robinson that makes good money like the early gusseted type,there's some people out there with too much disposable income lol ::) bidding up his stuff ???
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Agreed, and don't get me wrong its great to see this stuff, I love it!
The stem pad is my favourite. OG dirt....
Regarding the plate, I did think with the decals 'maybe....'
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Listed an 87/88 Robinson frame and forks which is also over what its worth already,nice frame sets but not the year Robinson that makes good money like the early gusseted type,there's some people out there with too much disposable income lol ::) bidding up his stuff ???
yep, no holidays last year, looking unlikely this year f*ck it! Buy Ruff's Stuff instead!!!!
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580 now for a 300 max frame set! Fookin crazy! :idiot2:
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Bit salty in here...
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No hostility on my part, if that's what you mean....
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Bit salty in here...
just observing
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Andy-Ruffells-Old-Yellow-Haro-Flo-Plate-BMX-HISTORY-memorabilia/284170011793?hash=item4229da4491:g:NCsAAOSwmZhgGTig
what forums are for
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Wow. What a complete bunch of fookin idiots the bidders must be on eBay right now :uglystupid2: :2funny:
700 sheets for an old dirty number plate that hasn't even got the decals on it the fella rode BITD :2funny: :2funny:
Just looked at the other items - some people have far too much cash lying around :popcorn:
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I was just about to correct you....
700!
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Wow. What a complete bunch of fookin idiots the bidders must be on eBay right now :uglystupid2: :2funny:
700 sheets for an old dirty number plate that hasn't even got the decals on it the fella rode BITD :2funny: :2funny:
Just looked at the other items - some people have far too much cash lying around :popcorn:
Realistically, what would you do with that plate, if you were the one with the winning bid. Frame it? Restore it? Put it on your TAP Ruff rep?
I've seen some amazing Ruffell replica builds over the years, a chap called Paul had one at MK18, an amazing bike with all the correct parts that Andy used. Say it was you that had built an exact replica and you wanted the plate to go with it, the original plate just ain't going to look right on a fully restored bike. And, if you wanted it to get the decals made and applied to it, that's going to look odd too, unless they're carefully aged.
Great result for Andy though, I don't suppose anyone expected even the plate to do this well.
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Spot on Dan :daumenhoch:
I can only imagine the winner framing it on a wall and that's about it. Each to their own, I bought my missus an original sketch of her favourite painting from her favourite artist for her 40th. Cost about the same, probably about the same size and sits in a frame at our house, so I suppose it's the same thing if your life is 80's UK BMX.
I'll sit back and watch what it goes for as I still don't get it, but then I suppose some wouldn't like the picture I bought my missus either :-\
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Wow. What a complete bunch of fookin idiots the bidders must be on eBay right now :uglystupid2: :2funny:
700 sheets for an old dirty number plate that hasn't even got the decals on it the fella rode BITD :2funny: :2funny:
Just looked at the other items - some people have far too much cash lying around :popcorn:
Realistically, what would you do with that plate, if you were the one with the winning bid. Frame it? Restore it? Put it on your TAP Ruff rep?
I've seen some amazing Ruffell replica builds over the years, a chap called Paul had one at MK18, an amazing bike with all the correct parts that Andy used. Say it was you that had built an exact replica and you wanted the plate to go with it, the original plate just ain't going to look right on a fully restored bike. And, if you wanted it to get the decals made and applied to it, that's going to look odd too, unless they're carefully aged.
Great result for Andy though, I don't suppose anyone expected even the plate to do this well.
Exactly that Dan....only someone with a TAP rep i would have thought would consider it at that price and even then.....it's a rep, how far are you prepared to go?? i would rather get another used plate and replicate the decals and even go through a few trying to age them although i suspect it wouldn't take me that long. It's just a knackered old plate with no decals!!!! It;s a bit like owning a Babe Ruth baseball without even the signature for verification!!
If i was stupid enough to be bidding in the plate and won it i would HAVE to build a TAP rep to put it on!! :laugh:
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I'm finding that watching the auctions end on Andy's stuff is very interesting.
I've read some of the threads on FB too, everybody has been way out with their estimates so far. Great for Andy and Dave.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-MX1000s-BLUE-Pair-Old-School-BMX-Andy-Ruffell/284171442461?hash=item4229f0191d:g:8v8AAOSwQl1gGteZ
500 by midnight?
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-MX1000s-BLUE-Pair-Old-School-BMX-Andy-Ruffell/284171442461?hash=item4229f0191d:g:8v8AAOSwQl1gGteZ
500 by midnight?
Possibly, but why?
Even less desirable than the race plate or forks.
These could be anyone's calipers.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-MX1000s-BLUE-Pair-Old-School-BMX-Andy-Ruffell/284171442461?hash=item4229f0191d:g:8v8AAOSwQl1gGteZ
500 by midnight?
Possibly, but why?
Even less desirable than the race plate or forks.
These could be anyone's calipers.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOLESHOT-R1-Forks-MEGA-RARE-owned-by-Neil-Ruffell-OLD-BMX-FREESTYLE-/284165795792?hash=item422999efd0%3Ag%3ABRQAAOSw8BpgFFD7&autorefresh=true&nma=true&si=ZJtyI2JgmPQ4lirtS6tMtZbKetg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
seems like a good deal all of a sudden.....
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-MX1000s-BLUE-Pair-Old-School-BMX-Andy-Ruffell/284171442461?hash=item4229f0191d:g:8v8AAOSwQl1gGteZ
500 by midnight?
These could be anyone's calipers.
everything coming with a COA
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dia-Compe-MX1000s-BLUE-Pair-Old-School-BMX-Andy-Ruffell/284171442461?hash=item4229f0191d:g:8v8AAOSwQl1gGteZ
500 by midnight?
These could be anyone's calipers.
everything coming with a COA
I'm not denying their authenticity, I know they're pucker, just trying to understand why they're commanding so much. Again, do you frame them with the certificate or do you fit them to a bike and carry the certificate around in your wallet to show their kudos.
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For sure mate, I didn't think you were, it's just been added to the auction(s) descriptions....which I thought was interesting...
Exactly, do you walk about with a bit of paper waving it at everyone?
No, it's just another set of blue MX1000's....
Great for the owner, great for the lister, great for us to watch....
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MK25 explosion
No bikes, just people walking about with bits of paper.....
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MK25 explosion
No bikes, just people walking about with bits of paper.....
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