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Dingobmxer:
carbon fibre is for fishing rods  :LolLolLolLol:

this'll do for me ta!



 :) DINGO :)

zed4130:

--- Quote from: Dingobmxer on May 09, 2008, 04:31 PM ---carbon fibre is for fishing rods  :LolLolLolLol:

this'll do for me ta!



 :) DINGO :)

--- End quote ---

and remember mate, you put spuds on that, it will blow up   :LolLolLolLol: , oh ill send those scans tonight mate,   ;)

proclass35:
I find the 'Luddite' attitude towards carbon is typical of most peoples attitude within BMX racing, where it's uncool to be competative, enthusiastic or willing to progress. Sure, these frames look crap at the moment and are not good value for money, but look towards the potential thats still within the development of composite materials- if you don't test and develop, you'll never improve. The development of traditional metal frames, apart from fiddling with the geometry, seems pretty stagnant at the moment, so experimenting with alternative materials is surely a way of gaining a competative edge over your rivals.
My background is more in kart racing and motorsport, where any possible means is used to increase performance. Composite materials such as carbon are widely used in F1 and other formulas, in components where the stresses  are far beyond those exerted by a BMX bike. In fact a freind of mine, whose son also races BMX, designs carbon components for aircraft- where failure of material has serious implications. If your telling me that a BMX frame can't be made of the same material then you're just kidding yourselves for fear of what exactly? Progression?
I'm not saying that carbon will be the answer, or will improve performance, but unless manufacturers are encouraged to experiment we'll never know. Who would have said 10 years ago that a diesel engine would win Le Mans? Audi did, and now everyones developing diesel engines. And I don't think diesel was ever a 'sales gimmick'.....

perry:
"if you don't test and develop, you'll never improve"

will 1lb win a race ? never . does having a carbon frame mean a novice will be as quick as the world champ of a few years ago who used a cromo frame , i doubt it

do karts use monococque bodies ? because im sure my mates is tubular steel

are alloy rollcages allowed by the msa , erm nope still 4130 cromo there too

how about national hotrod space frames , ahh thatl be 4130 again

top fuel frames are still steel

youve gotta remember these things have still got to be ridden , sure an f1 car is fine for the 1 race it has to do but what about the weekend racer building their single seater on a budget , are they going to want a whole new car each year , or will they want something with longevity

what happens when little johnny has an off on his carlos fandango super lightweight frame and puts a sizeable crack in the toptube or even takes a chunk out of it , will it get him through the next moto safely or will the fear of it shattering get too much , will he lose to the lad who bought a £200 steel frame 3 years ago who for all intens and purposes has spent his time riding without being washed along on " the next thing to shave 1/10 off your time "

its about sales , if you can get someone to believe they will be faster on your new stuff they will buy it , regardless of it being any good or not

what exactly does it progress ? will it make the rider pedal harder and faster than the guy on the steel frame , doubtfull

are disc brakes on racing bikes any better than the v brakes or the u brakes or the calipers , or is it another way for a company to make a few quid by saying its " progression "

 :rant:

dialledbikes:
Really can't be arsed to repeat what I've already said elsewhere.

So when these carbon frames are proven to progress the sport of BMX, you can say "told you so".  For the meantime, I'll continue to be one of the luddites selling good "old fashioned" cro-moly and titanium frames  :LolLolLolLol:

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