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Title: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 21, 2010, 09:15 PM
Is there a website with all the Hutch frame sizes, tube sizes and angles etc?

All the Hutch race frames +the judge +hollywood look very similar in shape.  Basicly I want to know which is the bigest/longest.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 09:19 PM
JJR BMX site

http://users.telenet.be/jjrbmx/hutch/HUTCHfactory.html

best i've seen
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 21, 2010, 09:26 PM
Ah, cheers Hutchman :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 09:29 PM
no problem.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 09:31 PM
have you got a Hutch,or looking for one?
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 21, 2010, 09:38 PM
Well, its a long story  ;D

I turn 40 this year.  I still ride a fair bit - I was thinking of getting a custom made bike frame with a hutch twist to it, so I've been googling for the last two nights looking for any pics + info.  I would like an original, but Its a lot of money & I'll more than likely break it - im fairly heavy these days ;D.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 09:59 PM
interested too see what you come up with.  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 21, 2010, 10:14 PM
Me too  :D

I sort of did a rough idea for a frame last year, nearly won a comp to have it built up for free if you won.  I came 2nd I think, haha.  But yer, loads to think about - alot more to it when you sit down a draw a few ideas out + from an engineering tec point of view I'm green as, haha.  But I think bikes tend to crack under the headtube on the main down tube mostly or where the seatstays meet, so I'm guessing they would be the bits to worry about.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: ron burgundy on March 21, 2010, 10:18 PM
Get Standard to make it, they already have the looptail rear ends ready to go :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 21, 2010, 10:22 PM
totally agree about the stress points, espically on the down tube , perhaps a bit of double butted tubing is required. i've got a pre serial  Hutch Pro Racer... cracked at the seat stays/seat tube weld!! and it looks like it broke in the aforementioned down tube location and has been re finished,not brilliantly.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 22, 2010, 08:43 PM
Get Standard to make it, they already have the looptail rear ends ready to go :daumenhoch:

Cheers, yer I had them in mind - I was wondering about the looptail because I couldnt see any on the standard website in the custom page - must be tricky to do a loop.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 22, 2010, 08:56 PM
totally agree about the stress points, espically on the down tube , perhaps a bit of double butted tubing is required. i've got a pre serial  Hutch Pro Racer... cracked at the seat stays/seat tube weld!! and it looks like it broke in the aforementioned down tube location and has been re finished,not brilliantly.

I had a word with someone who has a NOS hutch frame today.  They are going to let me borrow it for a while just so I can check it out.  I'm not sure what model frame it is, but it is a race frame - hope its a pro star  :D

I asked if they might sell it, but they said they wouldnt as they know I will build it, ride it & kill it, haha - they are probly right :-[ , he used to run a bike shop - but is retired now.  If I promise to build a show bike he might sell, haha.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: ron burgundy on March 22, 2010, 09:08 PM
Get Standard to make it, they already have the looptail rear ends ready to go :daumenhoch:

Cheers, yer I had them in mind - I was wondering about the looptail because I couldnt see any on the standard website in the custom page - must be tricky to do a loop.

Standard a knocking out all sorts of custom goodness...

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/hh304/nvmyslowride/20668_497384905187_616385187_112926.jpg)

Check out the massive thread on Vintage BMX...

http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php'showtopic=27033699 (http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php'showtopic=27033699)

 :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 22, 2010, 09:26 PM


Check out the massive thread on Vintage BMX...

http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php'showtopic=27033699 (http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/index.php'showtopic=27033699)

 :daumenhoch:

Cheers again Ron '2elliot' Burgundy. 

On another topic, I think Standard need to re-invent themselves with the newschool riders in the UK - the kids seem to hate standard (in general), or look upon them as bikes for old men.  S&M seem to have done this(keeped cool and underground with the kids) & S&M is older than Standard, haha.  Standard make killer bikes.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 22, 2010, 10:29 PM
Found the old pro star test in actionbmx

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/prostarspec.jpg)

Here was my rough idea from last year, think I might have posted it on here in another topic.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/sf-frame.jpg)
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 23, 2010, 06:12 PM
Thats not bad, if its a street/park bike then cool, if its a race bike mount the brake lugs on the top of the seat stays not underneath

21" TT
75 degree head angle
71-72 degree seat angle
Internal campy spec headset
Mid Bottom bracket
rear length and BB height will vary depending on what you want to ride (race or everything else)

More for trails and a bit of messing about on race tracks, doubt I'll ever race, but you never know.  Why would you put the lugs up top on a race bike?  I know most do, but whats the benefit?
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: Peter J on March 23, 2010, 07:22 PM
What’s the difference "size wise" between a Pro Racer and a Pro Raider?
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 23, 2010, 07:41 PM
Pro Racer tt=19.5,dia 1",wheelbase 36 1/4 - 37 3/4,Pro Raider tt=18.25,dia 1 1/8",wheelbase 35 7/8 - 37.

Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: Peter J on March 23, 2010, 07:57 PM
Cool, so a Pro Racer would make an Ok O/S rider for a bit taller than Spen  ;)

What sort of price do Pro Racers go for these days ?
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 27, 2010, 04:23 PM
 :)

Look what I got today :D
On condition I never ride it - just a show bike.

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch01.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch02.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch03.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch04.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch05.jpg)
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutch06.jpg)

Hutch hubs to collect on Monday.

Going to have to wait a while now before I can build a replica Frame  - still going to design it for now.
I'm not really into having a bike I don't ride properly, but I did always want a Hutch, haha + I payed a fair good price for it.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 27, 2010, 04:37 PM
lovely condition.  :smitten:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: Bettyswallocks on March 27, 2010, 04:45 PM
Lovely that...  :smitten:

Is that the nos one?

Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 27, 2010, 04:49 PM
Yes, NOS and yes its really nice condition - been stored for years in a loft.  He has some other parts too I think.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on March 29, 2010, 09:09 PM
Got these to go with it today¬
(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/y201/Scottewhite/hutchhubs.jpg)

&

A mate of mine gave me some bars(which I could do with an ID on - think they are early slams or GT, pics to come) + a two finger lever mx thingy & the top or front of a GT stem.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: HUTCHMAN on March 29, 2010, 09:16 PM
 :smitten:
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: scott250 on April 04, 2010, 09:47 PM
Cool, so a Pro Racer would make an Ok O/S rider for a bit taller than Spen  ;)

What sort of price do Pro Racers go for these days ?

Keep an eye on this -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-school-bmx-HUTCH-expert-racer-frame_W0QQitemZ110515562613QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item19bb3da875 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/old-school-bmx-HUTCH-expert-racer-frame_W0QQitemZ110515562613QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item19bb3da875)
its not a pro, but might give you an idea of how much they might go for.
Title: Re: Hutch Frames?
Post by: steve on April 05, 2010, 12:35 AM
so that one on ebay might be a pro radider if its top tube is 18.5 inches?

where have i seen that hub profile before, but without the hutch sticker?
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