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Mid School BMX (>87) 1989 to 2003 (<05) => Mid School ( Keep the faith ) => Topic started by: hazzajoe on April 19, 2013, 09:27 AM
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Hopefully these images turn out to be the ones I want them to be. If they dont, its a because a) I'm have ludite like qualities and b) because the new photobucket sucks ass!!!
All being well the images below should show the first shots of my newly acquired S&M Holmes, hopefully not too controversial "reissue".
I have been a member of the site for a few years now and have lightly partaken in some north region o/s racing. I really enjoy the crack at the racing.
I have owned and raced a number of o/s rides. An 86 robbo pro looptail, 90 ish robbo pro xl, elf double cross. I currently have a free agent Limo built up, and raced it last weekend at Coppul. I'll stick a picture in the museum if I get chance.
In the past I've not been too fussed about era correctness or indeed if things even look that good, function and value for money has always taken priority.
With this Holmes, again era correctness wont be my priority over function, however, I will try to build it with a bit more respect than I have had in the past.
Watch this space.
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Looks nice that :daumenhoch:
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Looks nice that :daumenhoch:
Thanks Man. :daumenhoch:
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Way cool. I wish I had got one of those when they were out. 8)
I think that this Homes and the HaroFreestyler are the only (?) re-issue frames that have done it right.
Totally as they were 1st time round, no "improvments" at all :daumenhoch:
I dont think S&M will make them again (unless they sell for HaroFreestyler re-issue money! :LolLolLolLol:)
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cool :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
is it the one thats been on ebay the last few weeks?
always wondered how to tell the difference between the og ones and the reissue if they are ment to be identical, do they have anything stamped on them to denote they are a reissue?
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cool :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:
is it the one thats been on ebay the last few weeks?
always wondered how to tell the difference between the og ones and the reissue if they are ment to be identical, do they have anything stamped on them to denote they are a reissue?
Yeah I bought it from the bay, I really wanted a challenger, but as you all know better than I do, no-one is in a rush to sell one.
As far as it being stamped, I dont know, I've not had all of the protection off the frame yet, which as I'm typing this I'm realising, is somewhat blase' of me. I should really check it.
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Lovely! :daumenhoch:
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yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative :daumenhoch:
im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version
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yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative :daumenhoch:
im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version
I'll check it out when I get home. :daumenhoch:
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I think the new frames had the frame number SHMxxx and there were 100 made.
The old frames were HXLxxxx
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I'm probabllies going to be asking a lot of advice on his build.
For starters. Anyone selling a chainring . Ripsaw, ripsaw 2, gt overdrive. Bubble font flight 41t-44t. Lmk please.
Mid Race wheels 36h ? Pitbull 2. Repop padset? :daumenhoch:
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Ive probably got a chainring. And maybe some GT hubs that'd go nice on it
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yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative :daumenhoch:
im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version
Kev they have a different serial format to the old frames (a mate had one) its something like SMH *** three digits other than that they're identical to a mk 1 even have the sandwiched dropouts :daumenhoch:
I wish i'd bought one n all
Anth you beat me to this one!
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Just noticed alex has pointed out the serial no. Differences (i'm on my fone) my mate built his then bought a dirtbike didn't have a seat post for it so cut the holmes seat post in half to make two :LolLolLolLol:
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SHM038
I'm off out for a role . Will reply to pm's on my return :daumenhoch:
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cool, i know what to look for so if i ever buy a og mk1 holmes i know its not a reissue :daumenhoch:
as for era correct, take a look the thread for mail order ads, mainly the ones from around 1990,1991 for ideas of what was around at that time :daumenhoch:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=131775.0
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cool, i know what to look for so if i ever buy a og mk1 holmes i know its not a reissue :daumenhoch:
as for era correct, take a look the thread for mail order ads, mainly the ones from around 1990,1991 for ideas of what was around at that time :daumenhoch:
http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=131775.0
Cheers Kev. Will do. :daumenhoch:
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy.
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.
You have first dib dobs dude :daumenhoch:
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Nice Holmes dude..
It would be interesting to see if there is much difference in geometry between your Limo and this..The Free Agent kind of paved the way for what is now considered almost standard race geometry..
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Nice Holmes dude..
It would be interesting to see if there is much difference in geometry between your Limo and this..The Free Agent kind of paved the way for what is now considered almost standard race geometry..
They don't look to dissimilar to be honest. The Holmes is in the loft till I get some bits sorted :daumenhoch:
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Bit o'class there pal. Best frameset ever.
Keep the back end as short as you can (44-16 works perfect) and you will never want owt else. H have a brace of Holmes's, and a limo. The Holmes is very much like the limo, just stiffer.
Keep us updated on your build. ;)
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Bit o'class there pal. Best frameset ever.
Keep the back end as short as you can (44-16 works perfect) and you will never want owt else. H have a brace of Holmes's, and a limo. The Holmes is very much like the limo, just stiffer.
Keep us updated on your build. ;)
Nice words dude.
I certainly will keep you updated :daumenhoch:
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy.
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.
You have first dib dobs dude :daumenhoch:
Get a boa or a pitbull on it, those bulldog calipers are pretty cack
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy.
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.
You have first dib dobs dude :daumenhoch:
Get a boa or a pitbull on it, those bulldog calipers are pretty cack
That's the plan man :)
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Some definite and some potential parts sourced for the Holmes;
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(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/yy223/hazzajoe/image_zpsb1fff2b5.jpg) (http://s794.photobucket.com/user/hazzajoe/media/image_zpsb1fff2b5.jpg.html)
more to follow.
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very posh 8)
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more.......
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not waiting for much now.
open to ideas on grips, seat and pedals.
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Grips and pedals are the only parts you feel so go for what you think is comfy. To be fair, a holmes feels nice with sandpaper for grips and bent pedals with seized up bearings!!
Really like this bike. Hope you like it as much as i like mine.
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Will it be at Lytham?
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Will it be at Lytham?
Will you be at lytham stranger ???
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Will it be at Lytham?
Will you be at lytham stranger ???
Gonna do me best :daumenhoch:
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Awesome i'm looking forward to seeing this built :smitten:
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Will it be at Lytham?
I'll be at Lythm with the freeagent mate. Maybe next time for the Holmes . :-)
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Awesome i'm looking forward to seeing this built :smitten:
Ha, don't hold your breath mate, I'm no bike builder.
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Awesome i'm looking forward to seeing this built :smitten:
Ha, don't hold your breath mate, I'm no bike builder.
I'll probably have f&f this time next year :LolLolLolLol:
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Awesome i'm looking forward to seeing this built :smitten:
Ha, don't hold your breath mate, I'm no bike builder.
I'll probably have f&f this time next year :LolLolLolLol:
I meant I'm no show bike builder, it's definitely going to be built, but as a rider.
Gish you've got a good chance of getting the piece o pipe seat post 8)
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Anyone know what kind of grip s&m ex style pedals have to offer?
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Anyone know what kind of grip s&m ex style pedals have to offer?
S&M dx type pedals are grippy :daumenhoch:
I just sold a silver pair about 6 weeks ago :uglystupid2:
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Anyone know what kind of grip s&m ex style pedals have to offer?
S&M dx type pedals are grippy :daumenhoch:
I just sold a silver pair about 6 weeks ago :uglystupid2:
Cheers Gish . :D
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Grips get some black jives
Seat use the black S&M you got off me :daumenhoch:
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Grips get some black jives
Seat use the black S&M you got off me :daumenhoch:
I plan to use the seat on it Gish . I'll Check the grips out.
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GOT SOME MINT DMR V12S ANTH,,,BLACK ,,IF YA FANCY EM
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Before getting the ripsaw, I got this robinson 44t, it was/is nos but was powder coated black with lots of shelf/storage scratches, so after Gish gave me some polishing tips, I had a go.
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Thought it looked similar to when people turn the gt overdrive's backwards?
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need to commence this build this week, hopefully b/b will arrive today or tomorrow, deadline was MK 13 now its Leeds North Region Summer Series Round 4 on the 2nd of June.
I found this picture of my first bmx as an adult. I bought it in the late 90's from a mate who rode trails, I knew not what trails were back then! It was total luck that the bike I bought was a S&M dirtbike. I bought it to commute around my mates and girlfriends hou when I lost my drivers liscence :(
I knew nothing about the bike other than the buzz words that Joe used when giving me the sales pitch. First Gen Dirt Bike. Pitch forks, red neck.( rings a bell) A head, (maybe??) Primo, Quando, Araya, Seventies, Dirty Harry. AD990.
Pic doesnt give much away and isnt very flattering to either myself or my mam :angel:
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The building has started................ ;)
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Made a slow start, but its a start, none the less.
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Luscious!
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Want
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Lovely that! Just going off the subject what's that grease your using I need some decent stuff!
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Mobil blue grease. High performance multi purpose especially suited to wet applications according to what it says on the tube.
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Want
We should've raced for this one in the first moto on Sunday. :daumenhoch:
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy.
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.
You have first dib dobs dude :daumenhoch:
:crazy2: :-\
Or maybe not :LolLolLolLol:
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You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Get it built :D
with my funds :D
Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy.
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.
You have first dib dobs dude :daumenhoch:
:crazy2: :-\
Or maybe not :LolLolLolLol:
I'm looking for the olive branch Icon dude :-*
Sunday was really hot and I was put under a lot of pressure. :-[
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It's alright Ant ,,,,, I know where it lives ;) >:D
:LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol:
It's alright Ant ,,,,, I know where it lives ,;) >:D
:LolLolLolLol:
:daumenhoch: :4_17_5: :daumenhoch:
Betty will back me up that your name was used numerous times to try and get him off my back!
:bondage:
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Was just like bitd stripping a bike trackside ;D
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Was like watching a vulture going to work on a carcus watching the freeagent getting stripped :LolLolLolLol:
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Is it only me that gets demented with crank spacing????? :-\
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just you ;)
Nice boike :daumenhoch:
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Is it only me that gets demented with crank spacing????? :-\
nope i to like em the same, 10mm from chainstay for me :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:, i even trim spindles down to make em work :idiot2: :daumenhoch: chain alignment is my real sticky point if that don't work :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :LolLolLolLol:
looking very shiny :4_17_5:
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Is it only me that gets demented with crank spacing????? :-\
nope i to like em the same, 10mm from chainstay for me :daumenhoch: :LolLolLolLol:, i even trim spindles down to make em work :idiot2: :daumenhoch: chain alignment is my real sticky point if that don't work :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :LolLolLolLol:
looking very shiny :4_17_5:
Chain line has to come first with me then it's the equal gaps and the niceness of the chain less spin :2funny:
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Had a few hours break to go riding. Come back and sorted cranks phew. Chain length to set now.
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oh eck.............. 1 1/2 links longer or 1 1/2 links shorter..........? and will the wheel sit mid to front of the drop out , getting a rash thinking about it :LolLolLolLol:
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:LolLolLolLol:
oh eck.............. 1 1/2 links longer or 1 1/2 links shorter..........? and will the wheel sit mid to front of the drop out , getting a rash thinking about it :LolLolLolLol:
:LolLolLolLol:
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Chop chop Anth i had that limo built in 30 mins
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Chop chop Anth i had that limo built in 30 mins
I'm a fanny mate. Photo coming soon.
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Here we go fella's it's been a busy day but inbetween the Holmes has been built. It's not been thrown together, it's ready to race a week tomorrow at Leeds, however, there are some changes I want to make before then.
The main 1 is to get a right way up stem rather than inverted. If I don't get one before Leeds, I do have a 15mm spacer I've turned to raise the bars, I'm just not happy with how it looks with the spacer in :-\
Other small changes I need to make. Chain tensioners need changing for some black or polished ones.
Need to trim down me new linear cable.
Gonna swap out the tyres with 1.75 dirt monsters, supplied by Gish :daumenhoch:
Sort out seat angle and height. Maybe a new second hand primo rod on the way .
Possibly a polished pitbull 2. Tho not before Leeds.
Grips a presently renthal firm and grippy, not sure what to replace them with.
In two minds about the polished chainring. I can't imagine a black one will come up in a hurry.
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PICKIES ANTH
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I GOT A MINT DYNO STEM HANGIN IN SHED
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I GOT A MINT DYNO STEM HANGIN IN SHED
Sorry for being picky, I want a DK,TNT or Crupi Dude
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OOOH LOOK AT YOU,,,,GETTIN ALL POSH AGAIN,,,HA HA HA
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OOOH LOOK AT YOU,,,,GETTIN ALL POSH AGAIN,,,HA HA HA
In for a penny eh :laugh:
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Rode it to the co-op this morning. Apart from the bars being low, it felt nice.
As nice as the freeagent..........???????........time will tell :)
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Looks ace Anth :daumenhoch:
Nose of the seat up a bit though :daumenhoch:
The post's in the post ;)
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Brother that bike looks fckn mint.
Gotta change the angle of the seat tho'.
Position it like a concorde coming into land then the bike will be proper MidSchool.
Good work
Keep the Faith.L
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Thanks for the positive comments fellas :daumenhoch:
We've been away in a lodge on the Northumbrian coast since mon am and don't return home til Friday evening so I haven't been able to tinker with the Holmes. With hindsight I should've brought it to play with whilst he wife and kids have been watching Britains got Talent etc, the dog might have thanked me for it, cos I've been walking the legs off her ;)
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:smitten: loving the bike , spot on :smitten: i want one now :daumenhoch:
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:smitten: loving the bike , spot on :smitten: i want one now :daumenhoch:
It going to get better ;)
Some changes being made. ;)
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I'd change the seat for something more era correct, apart from that it's sweet :4_17_5:
Still want it :smitten:
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bootiful.... :smitten:
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I'd change the seat for something more era correct, apart from that it's sweet :4_17_5:
Still want it :smitten:
I've got a oddy svelte, tried it on but it just looked huge.
I've got a nos pitbull 2 but I would need to cut the cable to fit it, at the min my brake is not good but not bad either so might leave that until after tommorow.
Was also thinking of dropping a 1/2 link in to slam the back end ???
Also cannot stop thinking about me old freeagent and gish's challenger. :P Cuckhoo!!!! :-)
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Absolutely Bang-On Brpther
Keep the Faith. L
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That's lovely 8)
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That's lovely 8)
Thanks Dudes. She rides sweet :-)
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leeds was a killer today
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Ordered a 3/32 half link and some pads that will be compatible to the pitbull 2! And possible tyre change before Manchester.
Need to get some riding in so that I can do this bike proud :)
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just spotted this thread Anth
Looks shite!
:LolLolLolLol:
lookin forward to a likkle roll on it :daumenhoch:
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just spotted this thread Anth
Looks shite!
I've had a couple of hours tweak tonight . Shortened the brake cable and fit and set up he pitbull 2. Replaced black Taiwan tech 77 with black and silver Japan tech 77. For me it was more about the colour than the heritage:-) changed the tyres to pucka 1.75 dirtmonsters and filled the inner tubes with more air than I normally do.
It's dark so pics will be to follow.
:LolLolLolLol:
lookin forward to a likkle roll on it :daumenhoch:
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Welcome back Dudes.
I've slightly modified the Holmes since Rad went down. Primo Dirtmonster boots, ( correctly positioned on the rims in relation to the valve, after a bollocking from Gish )
seat angle tweaked again.
New seventies linear cable. I need function over era correctness here!
Pitbull 2 brake.
Since the first photo's I've tweaked the bar angle to an angle I find less aesthetically pleasing, but it has made riding the bike much better. I have tipped them forward 12 degree's ish to make up for the back sweep of the bars.
I still haven't got round to removing two links and fitting a half link to slam the back end, I will do this as part of the next Maclaren style upgrade package which will include shorter chain, freewheel upgrade, seat height revised( ( i'm still ball catching ), brake pad upgrade, brake lever tweak ( its reach is 5-10mm to far to for me use comfortably), and hopefully a conventional top load stem.
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Lovin this now Anth :daumenhoch:
Makes me wanna get me red one out the loft (still in box from MK last year) :-[
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Just get that challenger dusted off ready for sunday :daumenhoch:
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Nothing to see here. Just a boring tech upgrade. Changed the freewheel to a nos Shimano one. Took two links out, added a half link to slam the back wheel. Had a role around summerhill and it seems more responsive in terms of manualing ? Got home checked me tyre pressures , sub 45 psi. So I've upped them to 70psi.
Probabllies won't ride it much if at all between now and MK. Hopefully a nice top load stem will come up for sale before then.
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somebody somewhere must have a top load stem. Gt pro dimple? TNT??????
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gt dimple stem added :D
thanks DD :daumenhoch:
I think that's it, all done....................now that north region old school is all done, it wont be long before its in the for sale section >:(
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it wont be long before its in the for sale section
We'll have to have a chat at MK :smiley6600:
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Sounds like a plan :smiley6600:
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Would like some black Jive grips........anyone?