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Title: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: stfc on April 25, 2008, 06:16 PM
bought from ebay for 11 quid approx 4 hrs work and from this(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj262/lambrettalee/b4b1_1.jpg) to this(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj262/lambrettalee/skyway002.jpg)  bearings were seized as was the freewheel, all stripped and regreased new bearings etc, process was , dishwasher on a 65 deg cycle, bleached for an hour, sanded completely with 1000 grade wet and dry, boiled in 2 ebony black dylons for 2hrs and left to cool over night, resanded, dyed in 3 more ebony blacks for 2 hrs and then wd40,d and dried and finally polished with autoglym, i now have a useable 100% straight tuff2 that will replace a later sealed bearing tuff 2 for that original look...any white marks on the photo are from the camera flash , i have also scratched the tube side of the wheel with a sharp knife to see how deep the black has sunk and no white is evident so hopefully no brake rub will remove the dye ... time will telll...
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: rakas17 on April 25, 2008, 06:24 PM
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Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: stfc on April 25, 2008, 06:30 PM
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  i was only half way through with the photos  ;)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: wildwood1971 on April 25, 2008, 06:33 PM
LOOKS LIKE THE LITTLE FELLA IN THE PICTURE IS IMPRESSED  :LolLolLolLol:

AMAZING WORK THERE MATE  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: rakas17 on April 25, 2008, 06:38 PM
that looks spot on..  i was being impatient ;)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: Swivel on April 25, 2008, 06:54 PM
Lee lovely stuff mate, I intend to do that to my Yellow set when they arrive  :4_17_5:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: snav69 on April 25, 2008, 07:02 PM
I intend to do that to my Yellow set when they arrive

I'd watch out if i was you mate , I tried dying a yellow seat and it turned a shite orangey colour  :shocked:  :shocked:  :shocked: , stfc has done a white to black so had no issue with colours mixing  ;)

 :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: munners on April 25, 2008, 07:12 PM
1st rule in dyeing.

NEVER DYE A YELLOW KASHI. IT DOESNT WORK! ASK JT. HIS WENT CAMO!
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: kdw712 on April 25, 2008, 07:15 PM
that skyway came very well

nice work  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: steve Beech TA on April 25, 2008, 08:43 PM


Cracking job that, if i get some that need dyeing i will send them over to you? :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: stidds on April 25, 2008, 08:47 PM
What did you use to boil the wheel in?  I have been searching for something suitable but to no avail.

Looks ace by the way.
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: cherrypicker on April 25, 2008, 08:55 PM
I got a 'cheap as chips' Skyway cooker. I'll stick up a thread, costs about a tenner.
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: kdw712 on April 25, 2008, 09:00 PM
What did you use to boil the wheel in?  I have been searching for something suitable but to no avail.

heres my old dye-matic

ended up with a small BBQ underneath to keep the heat going

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/IMG_0185.jpg)

worked a treat these were the cheap white wheels alans knocked out a while back

(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/v603/kdw712/george.jpg)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: stidds on April 25, 2008, 09:02 PM
Kev, what exactly is the metal container and where can you get one?
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: kdw712 on April 25, 2008, 09:04 PM
its half an oil drum sean

i got it from a friend who knew a man ......

postage could be a tad high  ;D

Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: kdw712 on April 25, 2008, 09:06 PM
found this on ebay

 linkage thingy (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/205litre-Steel-Oil-Drum-Empty_W0QQitemZ290223419265QQihZ019QQcategoryZ30928QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: stfc on April 25, 2008, 09:21 PM
Ive tried the old oil barrel thing and had no better success with what i have just used , what works best i have found is the initial rubbing down, then put the wheel in a kids toy bucket... the bottom of which is exactly 20.5in so they sit in a treat , put the wheel in add LOADS  of salt shaken all over the wheel its self add a kettle full of water over the wheel , while boiling another couple of pans full to totally immerse the wheel (10 ltrs ?) add the dye before adding the extra boiling water, pour in the extra 10 ltrs ish stir and turn the wheel every 10 mins or so for an hour and then leave,repeat if neccessary... this is the 6th set ive done and this method has been the best...
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: MartyC on April 25, 2008, 09:27 PM
Sounds like you did exactly what I did with my yellow ones, getting them back from badly sun bleached yellowy-white to proper yellow.  Good job there, they have come up a treat  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: kdw712 on April 25, 2008, 09:39 PM
add a kettle full of water over the wheel , while boiling another couple of pans full to totally immerse the wheel (10 ltrs ?) add the dye before adding the extra boiling water

the results from your way speak for them selves

as you say keeping it as hot as you can for as long as you can def helps it no end  :daumenhoch:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: cherrypicker on April 25, 2008, 09:52 PM
Cut down oil drum is what I use. You should be able to pick one up from a fuel oil depot, look in your yellow pages for one local. Cut it down and use cat litter to soak up any remaining oil in the drum. Clean that lot out and away you go with water, dye and salt.
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: Mattdub on April 25, 2008, 10:15 PM
I like this kinda thread , good on yer stfc  ;) .

Peeps willing to put the time & effort into reworking/restoring/dyeing/whatever ! lol an old school part and not resorting to buying sh1te new tuffs for an OS build .

Most impressed bud  :4_17_5:

BTW , Yellow Elina's dye black perfect  ;) ( and I heard Elina's were tougher to dye than Kashi's  ??? lol ) .
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: QUADROPHENIA on April 26, 2008, 08:27 AM




    :wtf:  what ya done man !!!!!!   a original rivetted white alloy hubbed rear skyway tuff and you dye it black  :shocked: ;D


i bloody forgot to bid on it as that was deffo was gonna be bleached back to white. not fooking dyed black as they are available

   :yahoo_silent:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: stfc on April 26, 2008, 11:19 AM




    :wtf:  what ya done man !!!!!!   a original rivetted white alloy hubbed rear skyway tuff and you dye it black  :shocked: ;D


i bloody forgot to bid on it as that was deffo was gonna be bleached back to white. not fooking dyed black as they are available

   :yahoo_silent:
  Lifes a bitch aint it!! >:(  to be honest it would have never come up with bleach, i have done white tuffs before and this particular wheel (see the 1st picture) seemed to have what i can only describe as brown moles over one section of the wheel (cuprinol or creosolt * spelling) on it , possibly where it was kept in a shed , i dunno,but they hadnt come out up to the dyeing stage, any how it has covered 100% in black and is going on me treader later , pics to follow, ... will now have a set of tuff 2,s with  :D sealed bearings for sale
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: stfc on April 26, 2008, 04:24 PM
fitted ....(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj262/lambrettalee/harors1002.jpg)(http://www.radbmx.co.uk/archive/albums/jj262/lambrettalee/harors1004.jpg)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: MartyC on April 26, 2008, 05:22 PM
Looking good  :daumenhoch:

I'd pull the bars back a touch though to make the steering a bit slower; you might find the front end twtchy on dirt  :daumenhoch:.
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: stfc on April 26, 2008, 05:42 PM
Looking good  :daumenhoch:

I'd pull the bars back a touch though to make the steering a bit slower; you might find the front end twtchy on dirt  :daumenhoch:.
DIRT!!! ,  ;D ;D
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: PHIPPSIO on April 30, 2008, 11:05 AM
Dyed an orange viscount dyna black. Took three attempts and around 10 black dylons but its as goos as i need it. If you hold it up to the light it looks a little burgandy but in normal circumstances its ok. I left it boiling in a saucepan on the hob for around 5 hours, not to mention the 5 hours of ear ache from the wife. Then i found a minty black one the week after :tickedoff:
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters!
Post by: double chevron on April 30, 2008, 12:39 PM
1st rule in dyeing.

NEVER DYE A YELLOW KASHI. IT DOESNT WORK! ASK JT. HIS WENT CAMO!

he tried to bleach a yellowed one, not dye I think Nick  ;)
Title: Re: skyway back to black brothers and sisters! UPDATED ,FITTED
Post by: spectre on May 01, 2008, 06:13 PM
brilliant job on this, Im restoring 2 alloy hub tuffs at the moment, polishing the hubs, carefully filed out a couple of dings, almost there - be chuffed if I can get them as nice as these...
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