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Offline Chilli Rinse

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Re: She's finally arrived - Changa Build
« Reply #125 on: September 13, 2020, 06:30 PM »
Good luck on the bars, hope you have better luck than I did on the Cobras.
Have a speedy recovery mate  fistblump
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« Reply #126 on: September 13, 2020, 11:46 PM »
Get well soon Pete !

Build is coming together very nicely indeed mate  :coolsmiley:
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« Reply #127 on: September 20, 2020, 01:43 PM »
So, it feels like it's been an absolute age since I've provided a proper ?build? update. Partly due to distractions ? weather, family, life, etc., partly due to waiting for parts to come back from the chromers, and partly for health reasons ? as many know, I've been suffering a herniated disc, which thankfully was finally operated on last Saturday.

So, whilst I'm not meant to be doing anything but recover at present, I finally felt good enough to spend a day on the bikes et al yesterday.

First job (and only really mentioning as I wanted to share the following pic) was to get the bike out of the bedroom. My wife's been a superstar this year, not only tolerating a build in the bedroom, but also with helping out on the build when I was struggling with some of the immobility etc. Anyway, job one, clean my office so that I could move the build down there?

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Then relocate the changa down to a suitably prepared space

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Then, with parts back from the chromers I could once again think of moving this build along. So, as a starter, the drivetrain?

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Jonathan, aka ?ButtsBikeShop? handled all my chroming requirements & did a great job  :bow:

First up a set of Profile 177mm Gen 3-A's. I picked these up of US eBay a few years back, on the surface they looked great, but when they landed they had a bit of an issue with the chrome, or more specifically the integrity of some re-chrome earlier in their life. Basically, a couple of areas around the pedal bosses where the chrome was starting to lift.

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So, job number 1, strip

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Then on inspection a couple of minor surface issues were found (small pinholes that would have left the new chrome looking shat)

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So, before any chroming work could commence first they received a layer of copper plating and subsequent prepping to get us back to a suitable smooth surface to apply the chrome

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And then the finished article  :smitten:

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And as for replacement decals. Well the only real option is reproduction, but it took a little work. Most who re-sticker gen 3's actually use the wrong decals. You can see so many come up for sale that have the earlier box crank decals and they don't look great. Box cranks ones are basically a rounded oblong type shame, whereas proper gen3's are actually a slight teardrop shape. Then there's the colourway. AS we all know these decals are typically blue-red on a chrome foil. I was sort of ok with that, but in reality, really wanting to keep to as much chrome and black as possible. So I hit a compromise and went for the Black-Red on chrome foil. But went for some from an Indonesian eBayer, as the print detail was of a much higher resolution than some you see on eBay from our neck-of-the-woods (admittedly the edging isn't that good on the ones I've ended up with, but the font etc. is lovely and crisp).

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Then fitted

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Spider wise, when I originally bought the cranks they came with a repo spider. It took a lot of looking, and isn't ideal, but I finally landed a very good condition OG one. Only unfortunate part about it is that the previous owner had decided to chrome it at some point earlier in its life. Doesn't look horrendous, would have just rather the OG finish. Still, fits the build, and if a nice mint OG finish one ever turns up I can decide whether to swap it out then

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Then the spider, one from the good lady here, under the Christmas tree this year was a NOS 44t Silver CAM chain ring, so, on she goes

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Bolting to the spider by way of a set of NOS Sugino bolts

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And all mounting to some unknown make nice and clean bottom bracket

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So, there's the parts, let fitting commence, with my homebrew headset & bottom bracket fitting tool ? no more need for hammers and wooden blocks

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And finished (nice and easy)

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Then all fitted up

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So, that's it for today. Feels great ?being back in the saddle?, and more will follow soon.

Little one on the pedals next time out.

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« Last Edit: September 20, 2020, 02:10 PM by Picklez »
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Re: She's finally arrived - Changa Build
« Reply #128 on: September 20, 2020, 02:10 PM »
Nice update. That set up looks the biz  fistblump glad you're back on the tools  :daumenhoch:
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Re: She's finally arrived - Changa Build
« Reply #129 on: September 21, 2020, 11:15 PM »

Nice drivetrain Pete  :coolsmiley:

Good to hear that you are up and about and cracking on with the build - always good to get an update on this one..... more please  :popcorn:

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Re: She's finally arrived - Changa Build
« Reply #130 on: September 22, 2020, 06:53 AM »
Wow, I haven't been on here for ages, I need to get up to speed again. That is a total beauty.
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Re: She's finally arrived - Changa Build
« Reply #131 on: September 25, 2020, 12:36 PM »

Nice drivetrain Pete  :coolsmiley:

Good to hear that you are up and about and cracking on with the build - always good to get an update on this one..... more please  :popcorn:

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« Reply #132 on: September 29, 2020, 08:14 PM »
So, as promised, this update deals with the pedals. I don't think there's many surprises here, I've gone with my Profile Horseshoes.

I was lucky enough to pick these up from Adam (Akgoff) about 5-6 years ago, just before he decided to sell up all his builds and parts. He?d sourced these from one of his contacts in Aus?, struck the deal up and was having them shipped over. He and I used to chat from time to time, basically selling each other the odd part to help builds along. He?d identified these for his next build, but at the last minute canned his plans for that, and as he knew I was also in the market for some, kindly offered them to me at what they?d cost him. It took be all of a few seconds to pull the trigger, and a few weeks later they landed:

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Since then they've basically sat on the shelf, waiting for the right build, I even nearly sold them on a couple of occasions, more on that in a minute.

Anyway, they were in relatively good condition, looking quite mint from a couple of metres away. But, when you inspect them a bit closer you start to note quite a few age related dents and knicks, particularly on the side walls, ends, as well as (to a lesser extent) the main foot plate areas:

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« Last Edit: September 29, 2020, 08:16 PM by Picklez »
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« Reply #133 on: September 29, 2020, 08:18 PM »
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Then, there was also a question regards the authenticity of the spindles. I once listed these pedals for sale on the Museum. Well, that caused all the aficionados to come out of the woodwork, and caused quite a few comments, mainly to do with the fact that the spindles didn't look original. It's widely accepted that Profile originally only sold horseshoes with black oxide spindles, and the ones on mine are chrome. Some thought they were Hutch spindles, others were unsure, but most did not believe them OG. Not perturbed, homework was required. When comparing the shape of mine to Hutch bear trap, Crupi, JP, Primo, and others the shape just did not match any, mine did however more closely represent the shape of the original profile version, just in the wrong finish. So, not knowing what had happened over the years with regards this aspect of the pedals, whether a previous owner had simply chromed the original spindles or whether they?d fitted something aftermarket I had yet to identify, the next step was to pull the spindles. On doing so, and inspecting, a 'most-probable? answer resulted.

It looks like a previous owner (for whatever reason) most probably did actually swap out the original spindles with Hutch spindles. By default, these would not have fitted, so, it appears they subsequently had them machined down to the required cross-section profile, see the following picture, specifically the area of shafts where bearings locate. Quite poorly finished lathe marks are evident. Possibly a previous owner wanted to swap the OG spindles from 1/2inch to 9/16th's, and unable to find the right spindles, so reworked Hutch ones  :-\

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Either way, this was enough of an inquisition for my liking, and happy that I?d found a plausible answer, just had to formulate a plan to manage this little issue. Simple, I wasn't going to spend an eternity hunting for OG horseshoe spindles, although I have located a source recently, I simply decided that the best remedial was to strip the chrome off of the current ones and have them black oxide?d. Done:

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Now, back to all the dents and knicks in the sides and on the platforms. Well, my OCD wasn't going to be enable me to fit them to the VDC as-was. So, brave pants on and big balls located, I decided to try tackle these imperfections by way of a small resto effort. So, job number one, out with the file:

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« Last Edit: September 29, 2020, 08:35 PM by Picklez »
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« Reply #134 on: September 29, 2020, 08:23 PM »
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Then, after recovering from that nerve-racker it was a downhill journey from there. First the 180 grit:

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Then through the grits, 320, 600, 1200, and then finally the 2000grit (& some 20 hours later)

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« Last Edit: September 29, 2020, 08:25 PM by Picklez »
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« Reply #135 on: September 29, 2020, 08:26 PM »
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Happy with that, all that remained was to refit the freshly finished spindles

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« Reply #136 on: September 29, 2020, 08:28 PM »
And bolt them up to the build

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That's all for now, chain etc. next time out.

Thanks for reading guys. Keep it  :radbmxsmilie:
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« Reply #137 on: September 29, 2020, 10:28 PM »
Lookin' super-classy!

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« Reply #138 on: September 30, 2020, 09:31 AM »
Looking good mate  :coolsmiley: :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #139 on: September 30, 2020, 04:56 PM »
Nice update Pete.

She's coming together sooooo nicely  :smitten:
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« Reply #140 on: September 30, 2020, 06:35 PM »
Thanks guys  :daumenhoch:

Have a 'bars' dilemma now, as these landed today:

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« Reply #141 on: October 01, 2020, 10:00 PM »
Wow man that's serious OCD on those pedals but damn, worth every last bit of effort.  :slayer:

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« Reply #142 on: October 02, 2020, 08:00 AM »
In the words of the late Roy Castle   ;)  That's Dedication!  :D  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #143 on: October 05, 2020, 01:03 AM »

My 2 pennies Pete - I prefer the original bars planned for the build mate  :-\
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« Reply #144 on: October 05, 2020, 10:53 AM »

My 2 pennies Pete - I prefer the original bars planned for the build mate  :-\

I know, I'm torn as heck. I've wanted a set of VDC freestyles for a good few years now, really wanted them on my Trix, and not seeing many about at that time presumed I'd have to settle for the woody's. So, when this build started the woody's were the obvious choice too, and in reality I'm kind of like you, in that I think they suit this build better. It was just an out-of-the-blue opportunity that presented the freestyle bars, at a price I just couldn't let them pass by, and had to grab them. The trouble is, I do love the freestyle bars as a 'bar' and I've not got another freestyle inspired mid-80's era build in mind at present that would suit them. Next up will be my original DP from BITD, and that's definitely sticking with it's DP ladders. Then I'm wanting to do a 79 Teamgoose. After that I was kind of going to stop on the building front for a while, and just enjoy what I have, and collect a few odd bits along the way. At this rate I'm seeing another, yet to be defined freestyle build  :-\ :idiot2: :LolLolLolLol:
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« Reply #145 on: October 05, 2020, 10:14 PM »
Well at the end of the day mate I think you need to try both on when she's finished and let the build talk to you......

Usually I have a build exactly in my head or very near to it..... my recent experience with my Rampar build changed that since how I had it in my head was very different to the parts I chose for her in the end. First time that's happened for me, but sometimes I guess you just have to try the parts on the bike and let the build take the lead a bit perhaps....

Try them both out mate and just see what looks and feels "right" with all the other components in play - either way she's gonna be a stunner mate  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #146 on: October 05, 2020, 10:37 PM »
Well at the end of the day mate I think you need to try both on when she's finished and let the build talk to you......

Usually I have a build exactly in my head or very near to it..... my recent experience with my Rampar build changed that since how I had it in my head was very different to the parts I chose for her in the end. First time that's happened for me, but sometimes I guess you just have to try the parts on the bike and let the build take the lead a bit perhaps....

Try them both out mate and just see what looks and feels "right" with all the other components in play - either way she's gonna be a stunner mate  :daumenhoch:

Sound advise John, and definitely the route I'll take, mind you (and keep it quiet from my good lady) I was doing a bit of a 'recky' for Freeagent Freeflites earlier  :LolLolLolLol:, 'picturing' a build the freestyle bars would go very nicely with  :uglystupid2:
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« Reply #147 on: October 06, 2020, 12:23 AM »
Ahh yes.... the good old "convincing yourself to start yet another build because of 1 specific part you already have" scenario  :2funny:

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