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Rider owned vs corporate
gossa:
Alex, I think Chris had a good offer pretty much as soon as he got S&M going, from GT who knew he would be a threat.
From my POV, the product has to do the talking, don't matter who owns it or where they source it.
SaMAlex:
--- Quote from: gossa on November 25, 2007, 08:44 PM ---Alex, I think Chris had a good offer pretty much as soon as he got S&M going, from GT who knew he would be a threat.
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A good offer ... or S&M were backed into a corner when GT were making S&M frames. I wonder if the "offer" included workin out a deal for the bill after GT had over-produced frames? Surely that CANT have been how GT managed to take over so many other BMX companies :-X
The offer I was talking about was in the mid 90s.
--- Quote from: gossa on November 25, 2007, 08:44 PM ---From my POV, the product has to do the talking, don't matter who owns it or where they source it.
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Very good point :daumenhoch:
gossa:
--- Quote from: S&MAlex on November 25, 2007, 08:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: gossa on November 25, 2007, 08:44 PM ---Alex, I think Chris had a good offer pretty much as soon as he got S&M going, from GT who knew he would be a threat.
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A good offer ... or S&M were backed into a corner when GT were making S&M frames. I wonder if the "offer" included workin out a deal for the bill after GT had over-produced frames? Surely that CANT have been how GT managed to take over so many other BMX companies :-X
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It was totally, Todd Huffman and Bob Morales (partners in Mor Distr) lost Auburn to GT after they got in too deep, it was thier way of 'acquiring' brands. Funny, Chris was working at Mor Dist around the time that happened, hammering the shite out of CR20R back ends to get them on! Mor owned Dirt Research too, remember those tyres?
dialledbikes:
One of the reasons I respect Moeller (apart from starting his own BMX company at the age most teenagers are dropping out of BMX and turning it into one of the best BMX companies ever) is the fact he didn't sell out to Specialized when it must have been very tempting to bank a tidy sum.
I think Specialized is a great bike company (personally, I wouldn't ride any other brand of full-sus freeride bike), but S&M as we know would have disappeared.
It's cool that S&M still make their frames, forks and bars in the US when they could make bigger profits by switching to Taiwan. Long may it continue as it's something that is associated with BMX and a principle the company was built on. Though I thought it was a bit of a low shot when that anti-Taiwan ad came out, especially as Fit and Black Market (companies which are associated with/co-owned by S&M) have Taiwanese frames in their line ups.
Like Clive says, the product should do the talking, regardless of where it's made.
gossa:
MIKE SAID
It's cool that S&M still make their frames, forks and bars in the US when they could make bigger profits by switching to Taiwan.
CLIVE SAYS
Maybe not Mike, Chris charges a premium over taiwanese made frames (as he should), if he sourced 'off shore', he'd have to re-align his pricing to compete with other far eastern made brands so pop goes his USP?
Chris will do what he does very well for a long time I think and good luck to him although history has shown he doesn't need luck.......
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