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Rider owned vs corporate
YGT:
GT is owned by pacific
YGT:
if you look at most companies for 2008 they all seem to be trying to go "coporate" ... by this i mean sell numbers and maximise profits.
so many companies are springing up and making complete bikes in china ....
WizardWeb:
--- Quote from: YGT on November 24, 2007, 11:39 PM ---if you look at most companies for 2008 they all seem to be trying to go "coporate" ... by this i mean sell numbers and maximise profits.
so many companies are springing up and making complete bikes in china ....
--- End quote ---
That's kind of what I mean, a lot of the indies seem to be doing the same things as the 'corporates'. Even S&M source some of their stuff from taiwan. Ironic as they ran that ad a few years back claiming all things made in Taiwan was dangerous and American is better.
Another way of looking at it is: do companies really become corporate or is it that the new kids coming into the sport only identify with the new companies and see the older ones as not relevant, like aging rockers not making the charts anymore....?
dialledbikes:
Are rider-owned and corporate mutually exclusive? Most bike companies are "corporate" in the fact that they are incorporated.
And why does getting stuff made in Taiwan make a bike company "corporate"? I don't really get that logic.
To me, "corporate" in the sense of the word which people see as negative means big, caring more about profit than quality, not having anything in common with their customers, not giving something back to the sport.
S&M seems to have interests in a number of companies such as Fit, Black Market Bikes and Metal just like GT did with Powerlite, Robinson, Dyno, Auburn, etc. Is it any less rider owned/focussed (regardless of where it's products are made)? I agree that it would be odd/slightly hypocritical for S&M to source Taiwanese goods after running that anti-Taiwan ad a few years ago though.
Some of the early rider owned companies have been around a while now so maybe their owners are getting to the point where they are taking things a bit more serious from a business perspective and that's being perceived as "going corporate".
SaMAlex:
I think the S&M Taiwan add was about getting FRAMES made over there. They do sell some S&M products that are made in the far east, but all the frames, bars and forks are US made (if that makes them better is a whole 'nother thread).
Oh, and it is "S&M Incoporated" too, but again, not sure what that means as far as this thread goes
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